display of site- improper on large monitors- how do I fix it.

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Larry

I have a 21 inch monitor. For some reason the browser window was
maximized and I noticed that it throws the (display) margins of my page off.
The different components do not line up properly.
See http://funjax.com/funky-display.htm
How do I fix this?
Note: you probably will not notice the problem without a large monitor
so I have included a screen capture at the link above.
Thanks
 
A look at the code on the page would be more helpful. Can you upload the
file somewhere and post a URI?
 
In that case, the culprit is likely this -

<!--msnavigation--><table dir="ltr" border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top" width="1%"
bgcolor="#000000">

At 100% width, that puppy is expanding and that allows the cell with the
funjax background image to expand correspondingly and break away from the
left margin.

The bottom breakaway is no doubt caused by this -

<!--msnavigation--></td></tr><!--msnavigation--></table><!--msnavigation--><table
border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td>

<div align="center">
<table border="1" width="689" style="border-width: 0px" cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0">

where the center aligned division is causing that lower table to realign on
larger browser viewports.

In my opinion, there's quite alot of cleanup needed on that page.
 
Thanks Murray,
Do I interpret this to mean that setting the table widths to the proper
pixel size instead of 100% will fix it?
 
I think so for the first problem, yes.

For the second (lower table) issue, just remove the centering division
wrapped around the table. There would be no reason to have that centered
anyhow.
 
No, you cannot change those table and cell sizes.

The 100% tables are added by the Shared Borders you are using. The sizes
cannot be changed unless you turn off shared borders and use include files
instead, which gives the designer control of the page layout.

Ron
 
Not if you want to stay with FrontPage.

Using Shared Borders adds:
a 100% width table for the top border.
a 100%, 1 row, 5 column, table for left and right borders. Left border in
1% width cell, then a 24px spacer cell, a cell for page content, 24px
spacer, 1% width cell for right border
a 100% width table for the bottom border
(This is for a page with top, left, right, and bottom borders)

This layout can be easily emulated with tables to layout the page, and using
FrontPage include files for the borders. Building the pages is a little
harder, but, given the greater flexibility and control over the layout,
IMO well worth the effort.

Ron
 
Hi Larry,

You either have to design the site in a layout table or use CSS to define the layout.
 
Have you looked at the page in FireFox, Mozilla or NetScape? I think high
res monitors are the least of your problems.

In the <body> tag marginwidth="750" is the source of the problem. I've never
seen that attrubute used anywhere except frames.

Bob Lehmann
 
Bob:

This was one of the problems I was thinking of with my "lots of cleanup"
comment. The page is a bear in FF....
 
I agree that "not using themes" is a good thing, but in this case shared
borders is the problem :)

Ron
 
Hi Ron,
If you had a 300 page website do you think it would still be worth the
effort?
If so can you point me in the right direction to learn about include files?
I know what they are, I just do know how to get started using them.
Best, Larry
 
If you have FP2003 I would go straight to using a Dynamic Web Templates.
See
www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/SB-to-DWT.htm for a very rough guide to a
conversion process.

On my site changing 31 pages from Include files to DWT took a little over 1
minute per page. The DWT has several editable areas, which made applying it
more complex.
(The converted pages have not been published yet)

For any site, I will recommend Include Files over shared borders (if you
can't use DWTs), but it may take several minutes per page to convert.

A very rough guide to a conversion process is at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/SB-to-IC.htm

Ron
 
Thanks again, it is probably worth doing, considering the site gets 4000
page views a day :-)
I do have 2003 and appreciate the input!
 

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