Description in Macros dialog box gives wrong information by default

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Greg Maxey

Larry,

It seems to me that you provided the answer to your own question in your
description of the problem.

Solution - User input his or her own description.

It is no different in Word 2003. After reading your recent thread about
AutoFormat, we (or certainly I) already know your gripes with Microsoft.
Why would you kill a single brain cell over such a trival issue?
 
In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted his
own description for a particular macro, the Description box for that
macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro created
months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
 
Greg,

If you have absolutely nothing useful to say about the matter, which is
evidently the case, then why waste a single one of your brain cells and
a single moment of my time making your trivial complaint about my
question? My intention was to ask a question about Word's default
behavior and to see if there was a way to change it, not (as it appears)
disturbing your precious equanimity by "griping" about Microsoft.

Larry




Greg Maxey said:
Larry,

It seems to me that you provided the answer to your own question in your
description of the problem.

Solution - User input his or her own description.

It is no different in Word 2003. After reading your recent thread about
AutoFormat, we (or certainly I) already know your gripes with Microsoft.
Why would you kill a single brain cell over such a trival issue?


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Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
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In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted his
own description for a particular macro, the Description box for that
macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro
created months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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Larry,

I didn't complain about your question. I only pointed out that you answered
it yourself. "Nothing useful to say" is your opinion. If you want
something other than "Macro created this date by user" then change it.
Otherwise let it pass.

Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
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Greg,

If you have absolutely nothing useful to say about the matter, which
is evidently the case, then why waste a single one of your brain
cells and a single moment of my time making your trivial complaint
about my question? My intention was to ask a question about Word's
default behavior and to see if there was a way to change it, not (as
it appears) disturbing your precious equanimity by "griping" about
Microsoft.

Larry




Greg Maxey said:
Larry,

It seems to me that you provided the answer to your own question in
your description of the problem.

Solution - User input his or her own description.

It is no different in Word 2003. After reading your recent thread
about AutoFormat, we (or certainly I) already know your gripes with
Microsoft. Why would you kill a single brain cell over such a trival
issue?


--
Greg Maxey
A peer in "peer to peer" support
Rockledge, FL
To e-mail, edit out the "w...spam" in (e-mail address removed)
In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted
his own description for a particular macro, the Description box for
that macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro
created months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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I do not believe what you claim is correct.

The "Macro created [Date] by [user name]" is a comment in the macro and the
date part of it does not change.

I have just confirmed this by dusting off an old notebook that has Word97 on
it.
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Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
 
Doug,

I need to confirm that Larry's claim is correct. In Word 2003 it is like he
states. All of my macros that do not contain a date created comment within
the macro itself like you mention will display the current date in the
description window of the Tools>Macros>Macros dialog box.

I have apparently pissed Larry off so I am bowing out of this discussion.

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Greg Maxey
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Rockledge, FL
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I do not believe what you claim is correct.

The "Macro created [Date] by [user name]" is a comment in the macro
and the date part of it does not change.

I have just confirmed this by dusting off an old notebook that has
Word97 on it.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
Larry said:
In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted his
own description for a particular macro, the Description box for that
macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro
created months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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This isn't the most taxing issue in the galaxy, but
my copy of Word 2003 confirms Larry's claim
that the date in the comment box does change
daily. If this were a serious issue, I'd change the
comments. The comments field in my macro list
(completely stock) all read:

"Macro created 3/27/2004 by Joe" .

Haven't created, modified, or deleted any
macros since installing Word 2003. If Mr.
Gates had wanted me to have additional
macros, he would have provided them. (Smile.)

You guys kiss and make up. :-)


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP - DELETE UPPERCASE CHARACTERS FROM EMAIL ADDRESS"
I do not believe what you claim is correct.

The "Macro created [Date] by [user name]" is a comment in the macro and the
date part of it does not change.

I have just confirmed this by dusting off an old notebook that has Word97 on
it.
--
Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
Larry said:
In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted his
own description for a particular macro, the Description box for that
macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro created
months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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Hi All

Just to shed a little light on this topic. The description area is only used
when creating a NEW macro. It makes no reference to existing macros. Confusing
yes! Try changing it and recording a new macro. What you enter is what you get!

HTH + Cheers - Peter
 
I'm not sure what Peter is saying, but the fact remains that unless the
user types in his own description in the description box, the
description remains in the form "Macro created [date] by [username]" and
keeps updating each day. It would be nice if by default the description
gave the date the macro was actually created and then kept that date.
After all, one doesn't always remember to input a description for each
macro one creates, and it's a oddity of Word that a macro created six
months ago or two years ago or five years ago will say "created
3/28/04."

Larry






Peter said:
Hi All

Just to shed a little light on this topic. The description area is
only used when creating a NEW macro. It makes no reference to
existing macros. Confusing yes! Try changing it and recording a new
macro. What you enter is what you get!

HTH + Cheers - Peter


In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted
his own description for a particular macro, the Description box for
that macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro
created months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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G'day "Larry" <[email protected]>,

Which is why the serious developer's don't rely on such GUI nonsense
and comment our code.

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic
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Larry reckoned:
I'm not sure what Peter is saying, but the fact remains that unless the
user types in his own description in the description box, the
description remains in the form "Macro created [date] by [username]" and
keeps updating each day. It would be nice if by default the description
gave the date the macro was actually created and then kept that date.
After all, one doesn't always remember to input a description for each
macro one creates, and it's a oddity of Word that a macro created six
months ago or two years ago or five years ago will say "created
3/28/04."

Larry






Peter said:
Hi All

Just to shed a little light on this topic. The description area is
only used when creating a NEW macro. It makes no reference to
existing macros. Confusing yes! Try changing it and recording a new
macro. What you enter is what you get!

HTH + Cheers - Peter


In the Macros dialog box in Word 97, if the user has not inputted
his own description for a particular macro, the Description box for
that macro will say:

"Macro created 3/27/04 by [user name]"

This keeps updating every day. Thus the description for a macro
created months or years ago will say it was created today.

Is there some way to change this silly default behavior?

Thanks,
Larry
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Some people, supposedly being helpful, would rather speak a private
language to themselves, showing how cool they are, rather than try to
make themselves understood by others You're speaking techie short hand.
I'm not a techie. I know what GUI is, I know what commenting code is.
But I have no idea what you're trying to say.
 
Basically, Steve is telling you to do what Greg told you to do in the first
instance. If you want the macro to show the date on which it was created,
put your own comment in there.

--
Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
 
No one is telling you that Word should behave the way you've been seeing it.
S_ happens. They are telling you how to step around it when it happens. This
is not a place to complain or suggest changes to Microsoft. Microsoft does
not hire anyone to read these newsgroups.
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Of course. And all I was doing was wondering if there might be a way to
change the obviously defective default behavior. I figured there was
only a slight chance of that, but I thought that the flaw in Word was
worth mentioning, and possibly someone would know how change it. My
point was a reasonable one, but it set off a dismissive response which
was not in keeping with the generally collegial and helpful nature of
these newsgroups, and I responded in kind.

There is frankly a schizophrenia at these newsgroups. On one hand, we
freely discuss every aspect of Word, including, naturally, criticisms of
the way Word works. On the other hand, there seems to be this reflexive
reaction against any criticism of Word, a desire to put down the
messenger.

A similar thing happened recently when I mentioned the fact I had
discovered that AutoFormat cannot be run without a certain feature being
turned off. At first my comment was dismissed, as though it were
stupid, silly, or trivial, then others noted that my point was correct.

Larry
 
Correction: I meant that there is a certain AutoFormat feature that
(seeminly alone of all AutoFormat features) cannot be turned off when
AutoFormat is run. And I did send something on it to Microsoft Wish,
after getting feedback on the issue from people here, which, I thought,
is a legitimate function of these newsgroups.

Though some people seem to disagree.
 
G'day "Larry" <[email protected]>,

And some people would disagree with your assertion that we weren't
giving you good advice. These people would be more likely to be of the
opinion that you were shooting the bearers of bad tidings.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic
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Larry reckoned:
 
Not true. I was seeking information. What I was not seeking was people
telling me that my question was too trivial to bother asking.

Larry
 
G'day "Larry" <[email protected]>,

Actually, I said the function you were talking about was too trivial
to take much notice of. That's your answer, stop being so ungrateful
that we CANNOT recompile Word just for you.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic
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Larry reckoned:
 
I thought this thread had wound down, and then Steve Hudson aka Word
Heretic comes along and revives the argument:
Actually, I said the function you were talking about was too trivial
to take much notice of. That's your answer, stop being so ungrateful
that we CANNOT recompile Word just for you.
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No one was being ungrateful. I am one of the most grateful people in
the Word newsgroups for the great help I've received, as many of the
people here know. I do not, however, like it when people tell me that
the issues I'm asking about are too "trivial" to bother with. That
began when the first responder to my question said, "Why would you kill
a single brain cell over such a trival issue?", and then you came along
and picked up the same refrain.

Listen, pal: I'll be the judge of what I want to ask. If you're not
interested in an issue I'm raising, then just stay away from the thread
and don't bother me.

And another thing. I could do without the the faux-friendly "g'day."
To start off your message with the "g'day," and then start lecturing me,
makes you as phony as a two dollar bill.

Larry
 
G'day "Larry" <[email protected]>,

<Laughs>

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic
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Larry reckoned:
 
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