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I was talking to a graphics guy a few years back who said he used an html converter to get image files sizes down 10 fold to be usable on the web for webdeveloper clients he had. He worked in Photoshop primarily prior to conversion and quality was good after the conversions. Mainly logos, business signs ...that sort of thing. He said he got the converter from a word program. Is that possible because if it is it would change the whole scenerio fordeveloping high image sites........anybody..I'd appreciate hearing from you if you have any further info on this or something similar and thanx John
 
I think something must have got lost in translation. Word is seriously lousy
at handling graphics. Trawl this and related forums and you'll find any
number of threads on managing graphics for use in Word. The standard advice
is to prepare the graphics first using a graphics editor (Photoshop is my
preference) -- set the size, then resolution, then save, then import into
Word.




John said:
I was talking to a graphics guy a few years back who said he used an html
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converter to get image files sizes down 10 fold to be usable on the web for
webdeveloper clients he had. He worked in Photoshop primarily prior to
conversion and quality was good after the conversions. Mainly logos,
business signs ...that sort of thing. He said he got the converter from a
word program. Is that possible because if it is it would change the whole
scenerio fordeveloping high image sites........anybody..I'd appreciate
hearing from you if you have any further info on this or something similar
and thanx John
 
I'm just getting started in FrontPage, but it appears that FP has the
ability to save graphics in different formats and to resample them to
different sizes. Perhaps this is what the user was thinking of?

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Useful technique, but it seems an unlikely method for getting 10x
compression with no loss of quality.
 
I agree, but the originator did say that this was a Word thing - I cannot
think of another way to do this from Word.

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Hi Everyone

Just so you know, word XP & 2003 is much better at
handling graphics. I'm a Tech Author by trade and often
get 150Mb (yes I said 150Mb) word files with 100s for
screenshots. By copying each image one at a time and
doing Paste Special as a Picture, it's very easy to reduce
the file size from 150Mb to 3Mb. And best of all the
quality of the screenshots in some cases does increase and
they become sharper.

As for web optimisation of images, my favourite tool
(please forgive the advertising) is Corel photopaint, it
has a great web optimising feature, plus the whole corel
suite is half the price of photoshop.

Alex
 
Exactly. Word is not the way to do this.



Graham Mayor said:
I agree, but the originator did say that this was a Word thing - I cannot
think of another way to do this from Word.

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What version of PhotoPaint are you using? I'm still using v. 6.0 but have
gotten so disgusted with some of its inadequacies that I'm thinking it may
be time to bite the bullet and upgrade.

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Version 11. If you're considering version 12, it might be worth a return
ticket to Kuala Lumpur ...
 
Thanks for the input people.....I'll look into Coral products.......the company does have some nuggets of gold in some of even their older version software. thanx again for some direction.
 
If you're just looking to manipulate graphic files in fairly simple ways
(size, resolution, etc), the early version are just fine -- and you can
often find legitimate copies in garage sales.



John said:
Thanks for the input people.....I'll look into Coral products.......the
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company does have some nuggets of gold in some of even their older version
software. thanx again for some direction.
 
Many users are also very enthusiastic about Jasc PSP (Paint Shop Pro)--$79
download or $87 boxed. See http://www.jasc.com/offers/

For converting files (and more), I've heard very good things about IrfanView
(free download from http://www.irfanview.com/)

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It's still hard to beat 5 ringgits ($1.30) per CD for latest release
software. (Flat rate in KL for *everything*)
 
I'm using Corel 11 as well, I was going to upgrade to 12,
but I'm assuming by your comments, it might not be a wise
idea.

At the end of the day, all we need to know is:

1. DPI has no affect in web graphics as they are pixel
based.
2. IE 5.5 and better now supports PNG format, much better
quality than JPG.
3. Image file sizes can be reduced more by changing the
colour palette than by changing the actual image size.
My, best settings are Optimized 8 Bit Palette, with
Ordered dithering and then play with the total number of
colours between 0 & 256. No point having 256 colours in
the palette if you're only got 4 colours in the image.
4. Finally, if you have a large image (physical size not
file size), cut it up into smaller images. Optimize each
image and re-assemble in a borderless table with no
padding or spacing. I used this method on a 2Mb image and
reduced the file size of the combined images to less than
20Kb, with no quality loss.

Hope the above help

Alex
 
Free is still a pretty attractive price. <g>

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You tend to get what you pay for, though. ;)


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
Free is still a pretty attractive price. <g>

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