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Willard
Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that MSDOS7.1
programs can access the fat32 files??
programs can access the fat32 files??
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Carey Frisch [MVP]
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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
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| Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that MSDOS7.1
| programs can access the fat32 files??
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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
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| Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that MSDOS7.1
| programs can access the fat32 files??
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Steve N.
Willard said:Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that MSDOS7.1
programs can access the fat32 files??
Not natively in Windows. Some 3rd party programs such as Partition Magic
can supposedly do this (I've never used it, so can't attest to the
reliability), another highly regarded 3rd party product, BootIT NG can
resize NTFS partitions, create and fromat partitions using FAT32 or
NTFS. I've used some of the functions of this product and it seems quite
good, plus the 30-day free trial is fully functional. Learn more here:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
If it were me, I'd purchase an inexpensive disk, install it as a slave
drive in the PC and format it FAT32 instead of messing with your system
partition. There is always a chance of something going wrong when you
fiddle with system partitions and you'd be better off leaving XP running
on the NTFS file system in my opinion, although XP will perform fine on
FAT32, you lose all the NTFS security functions as well as what many
consider to be more reliable and robust file system management and
performance.
Steve N.
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Jon_Hildrum
You cannot do it with native winXP applications. There are several third
party application that will do it for you.
Partitionmagic would be one
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/system_performance/pm80/index.html
party application that will do it for you.
Partitionmagic would be one
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/system_performance/pm80/index.html
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Yves Leclerc
Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that MSDOS7.1
programs can access the fat32 files??
MS DOS 7.1??? MS stopped their official DOS versions at 6.22, not accounting
for the DOS versions in Windows 95, 98 and ME.
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Uncle Grumpy
Carey said:
Wrong again doofus.
And this guy holds the title of "MVP"????
What's that mean?...
Most Voluminous Poster?
Most Vapid Poster?
Most Venial Poster?
When it comes to computers and information, no bad information is
forgivable, so the latter is definitely not the answer.
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Steve Shattuck
Wrong again doofus.
And this guy holds the title of "MVP"????
What's that mean?...
Most Voluminous Poster?
Most Vapid Poster?
Most Venial Poster?
When it comes to computers and information, no bad information is
forgivable, so the latter is definitely not the answer.
Unfortunately, not some MVP's are experts only in their own mind. It's
unfortunate that one bad apple can spoil the whole batch.
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Uncle Grumpy
Steve said:Unfortunately, not some MVP's are experts only in their own mind. It's
unfortunate that one bad apple can spoil the whole batch.
Carey isn't that capable. The batch will survive despite the
inadequacies of the one "bad apple".
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
Carey got that wrong - sort of - there is no way to do it natively, it
requires third party disk tools. I noticed too that though both of you were
quick to point out the error, niether of you offered a method for the OP to
convert to FAT32.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
requires third party disk tools. I noticed too that though both of you were
quick to point out the error, niether of you offered a method for the OP to
convert to FAT32.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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Steve N.
Yves said:MS DOS 7.1??? MS stopped their official DOS versions at 6.22, not accounting
for the DOS versions in Windows 95, 98 and ME.
Well, that's where you were wrong to stop researching MS-DOS versions.
Windows 95/98 are most certainly MS-DOS based operating environments an
overlayed on top of MS-DOS 7.1.
"MS-DOS 7.1 - August 1996 - Shipped embedded in Windows 95B (OSR2) (and
Windows 98 in June 1998). Added support for FAT32 file system."
Futerhermore:
# MS-DOS 8.0 - September 2000 - Shipped embedded in Windows ME. Last
version of MS-DOS. Removes SYS command, ability to boot to command line
and other features
# PC DOS 2000 - Year 2000-compliant version with minor additional
features. Final member of the MS-DOS family# MS-DOS 8.0 - September 2000
- Shipped embedded in Windows ME. Last version of MS-DOS. Removes SYS
command, ability to boot to command line and other features
# PC DOS 2000 - Year 2000-compliant version with minor additional
features. Final member of the MS-DOS family"
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
Steve N.
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Steve N.
Rick said:Carey got that wrong - sort of - there is no way to do it natively, it
requires third party disk tools. I noticed too that though both of you were
quick to point out the error, niether of you offered a method for the OP to
convert to FAT32.
Yeah, good point. I try to make it a practice that if I point out an
error in someone's reply that I offer a possible alternative. I think
that Carey gets things "wrong" mostly because he seems to habitually use
canned responses and doesn't seem research other possibilities enough.
This is not always the case however, sometimes he has come through with
some very good "alternative" (not native to XP) advice. Lord knows I've
done my share of Carey Frisch bashing, but I still give credit where
it's due.
Steve N.
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Kerry Brown
Willard said:Is it possible to convert WinXP (NTFS) to WinXP (FAT32) so that
MSDOS7.1 programs can access the fat32 files??
From the many answers I'm sure you have deduced that it is possible with 3rd
party applications but not with the built in tools. While you are
researching 3rd party apps to do this look at imaging and backup programs as
well. You will need to backup before doing this. There is a significant,
though small, chance something will go wrong during the conversion.
Kerry
P
Plato
Steve said:Well, that's where you were wrong to stop researching MS-DOS versions.
Windows 95/98 are most certainly MS-DOS based operating environments an
overlayed on top of MS-DOS 7.1.
Yves was correct. He did say "not accounting for the DOS versions in
Windows 95, 98 and ME", which was easy to understand that newer dos
versions came with the newer MS OS's.
Yes, 6.22 was the last official MS-DOS one could buy independently.
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Gerry Cornell
Steve
Do you think "No" is a canned response? An unhelpful response perhaps!
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Regards.
Gerry
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Do you think "No" is a canned response? An unhelpful response perhaps!
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Regards.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Gerry Cornell
Steve
Are you describing resizing a partition to leave free space, which is then
formatted? This is not converting one format to another!
Still it will help the other person do what they want to achieve, which in
my view
is the measure of a helpful response.
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Regards.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Are you describing resizing a partition to leave free space, which is then
formatted? This is not converting one format to another!
Still it will help the other person do what they want to achieve, which in
my view
is the measure of a helpful response.
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Regards.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Michael Stevens
In
Well it is a XP newsgroup and Carey is pretty focused on the newsgroup.
XP cannot convert NTFS to FAT 32.
Technically he is right as far as XP is concerned. It takes third party
software to convert NTFS to FAT 32 and many of you Carey bashers bash him
for suggesting retail versions over OEM. Why wouldn't you bash him for
suggesting paying for a third party application to do something XP can't do
when asked in a Windows XP newsgroup?
Also, I have tested the PM NTFS to FAT 32 converter and have about a 75 %
success in the process.
If the hard drive is compromised with bad sectors, it is not likely to
complete favorably. This is one hard drive process I would not try without a
backup of important data that cannot be retrieved from other media.
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Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
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Gerry Cornell said:Steve
Do you think "No" is a canned response? An unhelpful response
perhaps!
Well it is a XP newsgroup and Carey is pretty focused on the newsgroup.
XP cannot convert NTFS to FAT 32.
Technically he is right as far as XP is concerned. It takes third party
software to convert NTFS to FAT 32 and many of you Carey bashers bash him
for suggesting retail versions over OEM. Why wouldn't you bash him for
suggesting paying for a third party application to do something XP can't do
when asked in a Windows XP newsgroup?
Also, I have tested the PM NTFS to FAT 32 converter and have about a 75 %
success in the process.
If the hard drive is compromised with bad sectors, it is not likely to
complete favorably. This is one hard drive process I would not try without a
backup of important data that cannot be retrieved from other media.
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
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Michael Stevens
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Steve,
Thanks for posting this reply.
I would say Carey is probably 98% correct for the last year and we all
sometimes make mistakes in interrupting the OP's message.
I would also say Carey is probably 100% in never giving advice that would
harm a OP and cause loss of data. If posters in this newsgroup just want to
bash someone, I suggest they pay particular attention to Andrew E, his
advice is dangerous and much of it gets passed along without comment that it
is wrong.
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Steve N. said:Yeah, good point. I try to make it a practice that if I point out an
error in someone's reply that I offer a possible alternative. I think
that Carey gets things "wrong" mostly because he seems to habitually
use canned responses and doesn't seem research other possibilities
enough. This is not always the case however, sometimes he has come
through with some very good "alternative" (not native to XP) advice.
Lord knows I've done my share of Carey Frisch bashing, but I still
give credit where it's due.
Steve N.
Steve,
Thanks for posting this reply.
I would say Carey is probably 98% correct for the last year and we all
sometimes make mistakes in interrupting the OP's message.
I would also say Carey is probably 100% in never giving advice that would
harm a OP and cause loss of data. If posters in this newsgroup just want to
bash someone, I suggest they pay particular attention to Andrew E, his
advice is dangerous and much of it gets passed along without comment that it
is wrong.
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
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Gerry Cornell
Michael
Is it helpful to post "No" as a response? I am well aware of the many useful
responses Carey posts. I do not need you to jump up and down in their
defence.
You need to learn how distinguish "the bashers" from those who are
focussed on trying to be helpful.
Every post needs to give the recipient a way forward. If it fails that test
it
may well be better not to post.
I hear your comments about the converter. How about reducing a partition
size and not allocating to the other partitions. Create a new partition in
the
free space and format that partition as FAT32. Doesn't that achieve the
ultimate goal. It's not converting but so what!
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Regards.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Is it helpful to post "No" as a response? I am well aware of the many useful
responses Carey posts. I do not need you to jump up and down in their
defence.
You need to learn how distinguish "the bashers" from those who are
focussed on trying to be helpful.
Every post needs to give the recipient a way forward. If it fails that test
it
may well be better not to post.
I hear your comments about the converter. How about reducing a partition
size and not allocating to the other partitions. Create a new partition in
the
free space and format that partition as FAT32. Doesn't that achieve the
ultimate goal. It's not converting but so what!
--
Regards.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Michael Stevens
In
Sorry to single you out as a Carey basher, my mistake, but I really hate the
posters like Uncle Grumpy that make no useful contributions to the
newsgroups other than trashing posters like Carey for making the occasional
wrong but harmless post. I don't see Uncle Grumpy jumping on Andrew E when
he posts a reply that will wipe out a posters entire system with his advice.
It's people like Uncle Grumpy that I was really focusing my post towards.
Sorry for the mistake.
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Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
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Gerry Cornell said:Michael
Is it helpful to post "No" as a response? I am well aware of the many
useful responses Carey posts. I do not need you to jump up and down
in their defence.
You need to learn how distinguish "the bashers" from those who are
focussed on trying to be helpful.
Every post needs to give the recipient a way forward. If it fails
that test it
may well be better not to post.
I hear your comments about the converter. How about reducing a
partition size and not allocating to the other partitions. Create a
new partition in the
free space and format that partition as FAT32. Doesn't that achieve
the ultimate goal. It's not converting but so what!
Sorry to single you out as a Carey basher, my mistake, but I really hate the
posters like Uncle Grumpy that make no useful contributions to the
newsgroups other than trashing posters like Carey for making the occasional
wrong but harmless post. I don't see Uncle Grumpy jumping on Andrew E when
he posts a reply that will wipe out a posters entire system with his advice.
It's people like Uncle Grumpy that I was really focusing my post towards.
Sorry for the mistake.
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Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
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Guest
Once you convert a drive or partition to NTFS,
you cannot simply convert it back to FAT or FAT32.
You will need to reformat the drive or partition which
will erase all data, including programs and personal files,
on the partition. Third-party programs, such as
Partition Magic 8, have the so-called ability to
convert a NTFS partition back to FAT32. However,
there is no absolute guarantee the conversion process
will not ultimately result in file corruption or worse,
an unbootable drive.
you cannot simply convert it back to FAT or FAT32.
You will need to reformat the drive or partition which
will erase all data, including programs and personal files,
on the partition. Third-party programs, such as
Partition Magic 8, have the so-called ability to
convert a NTFS partition back to FAT32. However,
there is no absolute guarantee the conversion process
will not ultimately result in file corruption or worse,
an unbootable drive.