Connecting XP to WinME

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Jaap & Nicky

Ok my problem is a follows.

1) Have a Win ME Desktop connected to internet via a BT Voyager 100 USB
Modem. Output from modem USB only.

This works 100% no problem. as is

2) I have a notebook with OS Win XP Pro with Wi-Fi card which works OK on
other public networks.

3) I want to use notebook to get on the internet at home via Desk Top pc
4) I have a Linksys 802.11b Router but it has only a RJ54 plug input.(USB
cable from Modem only )
However, Desktop PC has ethernet card already installed.

Question: Can I link Linksys router to ethernet card with RJ54 cable and how
do I configure ethernetcard and Router to
speak to each other, then if that can happen I should be able to get on the
internet with Notebook

Please help somebody

Thanks

Aubrey
 
Jaap & Nicky said:
Ok my problem is a follows.

1) Have a Win ME Desktop connected to internet via a BT Voyager 100 USB
Modem. Output from modem USB only.

This works 100% no problem. as is

2) I have a notebook with OS Win XP Pro with Wi-Fi card which works OK on
other public networks.

3) I want to use notebook to get on the internet at home via Desk Top pc
4) I have a Linksys 802.11b Router but it has only a RJ54 plug input.(USB
cable from Modem only )
However, Desktop PC has ethernet card already installed.

Question: Can I link Linksys router to ethernet card with RJ54 cable and how
do I configure ethernetcard and Router to
speak to each other, then if that can happen I should be able to get on the
internet with Notebook
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Aubrey,

please clarify some points.

You probably mean RJ-45, not 54, i.e. the normal Ethernet
socket, right?

Point 4) is confusing, because an USB cable from modem only does
not have an RJ-45 plug.

If I make some guesses, the way could be this. You access the
Internet from the desktop computer and enable ICS (Internet
Connection Sharing) on that computer. Then all other computers
connected to the desktop computer via Ethernet and the TCP/IP
protocol can share the Internet connection.

You could test this first by connecting the two computers
through a special crossover Ethernet cable.

Then you could also try the Linksys wireless router, but some of
its features should perhaps be disabled. I don't know that type
of router, but perhaps somebody else could give some advice.

Hans-Georg
 
Well it looks like either it can't be done or nobody knows how to do it.

Wonder who to ask now??

Thanks

Aubrey
 
Aubrey and Carol said:
Well it looks like either it can't be done or nobody knows how to do it.

Wonder who to ask now??
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Aubrey,

my reply preceded your second message by 14 hours. How come you
didn't see it?

Hans-Georg

p.s. I'm mailing this to you as well, just in case you have a
newsgroup access problem. But if you want to reply, please reply
in the newsgroup only.
 
Thanks for your email Hans-Georg pointing out my missing your post
completely. My face is red <grn>. Anyway, I missed seeing your reply. It
was there on my monitor but I only saw it after my second post went off....

OK seems I messed up too with some of the details

Yes the cable is RJ-- 45 ie the normal ethernet cable.

Point 4)

The Linksys Router has normal RJ--45 sockets. One socket is for the input
from the modem, the other 4 sockets are for RJ-45 outputs to PC's.

Normally, I would connect the modem to the wall outlet and the output from
the modem to the Linksys Router.

The problem I have however, is that the Modem here in the UK has only an USB
output so this can't connect to the Router.

Present setup has the output from Modem going into Desk Top using the USB
connection. I need to get the signal to the router. I found that the Desk
Top has an Ethernet card installed but not connected to anything.

I wondered if I could connect the Router to the Ethernet card and get the
internet signal into the Router. If this can be done I will need to know
how to configure the Desk Top which is running Windows ME

Hope that I have not been too long winded.

Look forward to getting your reply

Thank you and regards

Aubrey
 
Aubrey and Carol said:
Thanks for your email Hans-Georg pointing out my missing your post
completely. My face is red <grn>. Anyway, I missed seeing your reply. It
was there on my monitor but I only saw it after my second post went off....
Click to expand...

Aubrey,

no big deal. I was only worried that you can write but perhaps
cannot see the responses.
The Linksys Router has normal RJ--45 sockets. One socket is for the input
from the modem, the other 4 sockets are for RJ-45 outputs to PC's.

Normally, I would connect the modem to the wall outlet and the output from
the modem to the Linksys Router.

The problem I have however, is that the Modem here in the UK has only an USB
output so this can't connect to the Router.

Present setup has the output from Modem going into Desk Top using the USB
connection. I need to get the signal to the router. I found that the Desk
Top has an Ethernet card installed but not connected to anything.
Click to expand...

You would have to enable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in
the desktop computer's Internet connection. I've never touched
Windows ME, so I don't know whether ICS has to be installed as a
Windows component or whether it is permanently available like in
Windows XP.

Once you have that active, the Internet connection is shared
over the LAN (Ethernet) adapter. You could test this using a
special crossover cable.

If you want to use the wireless router, you have to connect that
to the Ethernet adpater of the desktop, then the biggest problem
is to find the correct settings for that. You probably want to
disable the NAT (Network Adress Translation) function in the
router and tell the router that it has a normal Internet
connection, no PPP or PPPoE. In fact, you have to disable almost
every function in the router.

Hans-Georg
 
Aubrey,

I forgot to mention that I don't really recommend what I wrote.
My real recommendation is to buy a wireless router that has a
DSL modem built-in or to buy a DSL modem that has an Ethernet
connector. These are ultimately the better solutions.

You may be able to swap or sell your modem, such that you don't
even lose money.

Hans-Georg
 
Hi Hans-Georg

Thanks for your suggestions etc. I am only here (UK) for another two weeks
and then I go back to Texas where I live, so I will just keep trying to set
up a network. So far no success. I don't think that the internet signal can
get to the ethernet card from the USB input. I have tried so many
combinations that I have forgotten all the settings that I tried.

I brought out with me a small Desk top running Windows XP Pro and have been
working on that plus my Dell Notebook with Win 200K Pro. Downstairs my
S-I-L has a desktop running Win ME.

Anyway no luck

Thanks and regards

Aubrey
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Aubrey and Carol said:
Thanks for your suggestions etc. I am only here (UK) for another two weeks
and then I go back to Texas where I live, so I will just keep trying to set
up a network. So far no success. I don't think that the internet signal can
get to the ethernet card from the USB input. I have tried so many
combinations that I have forgotten all the settings that I tried.
Click to expand...

Aubrey,

why try different combinations? There is only one solution, the
one I described in message
<[email protected]>, two messages back.

You should get a normal switch or a crossover cable, so you
don't have to make your first tests dependent on the possibly
difficult wireless router configuration.

Sharing the Internet connection is not very difficult. I can
only guess that you've tried to fight two problems at once,
which never shows you where the problem is.

Blindly trying various things is not very efficient. It is
better to know the proper way and follow it in a straight line.
:-)

Hans-Georg
 
OK Hans-Georg, thanks for your reply. I went out and bought a cross over
cable and then connected my Desk Top (Windows XP Pro) to my laptop also
Windows XP Pro. That worked and I can send files from either pc-to and fro.
i.e. C,D E and F Drives on both PCs

Next I connected Desk Top Ethernet card with normal RJ 45 cable to Linksys
wireless Router. This Router has one input from modem and 4 outputs. They
are all RJ 45.
I installed a wireless card into the laptop and configured all so that I
have the same files available on both PCs. So far Good. Yes? I think so.

Now comes the problem. Desk top I made the host and the ISDL modem is
connected to it via an USB cable. ( the Modem only has the USB output UK
edition). In the US the have RJ 45 output.
So, the Desk top gets on line, but the laptop... No ways!!

Ah!! you say, has he set the modem on the Desk top to sharing?
Yes, I have and still nothing happens. I have configured the desk top to ICS
and the lap top accordingly as per Windows XP. Set Up Wizards

To me it looks like the signal from the modem goes into the host PC via UBS
but cannot get to the Ethernet card (Realtek, if that is important)

Do you want to take another stab at it. Point me somewhere to get it going.

PS I will be leaving the UK Saturday, a week so, if it doesn't work ...

But I would like to know how to solve my problem.

Thank you and I look forward to your reply with interest.

Regards

Aubrey


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Aubrey and Carol said:
OK Hans-Georg, thanks for your reply. I went out and bought a cross over
cable and then connected my Desk Top (Windows XP Pro) to my laptop also
Windows XP Pro. That worked and I can send files from either pc-to and fro.
i.e. C,D E and F Drives on both PCs

Next I connected Desk Top Ethernet card with normal RJ 45 cable to Linksys
wireless Router. This Router has one input from modem and 4 outputs. They
are all RJ 45.
I installed a wireless card into the laptop and configured all so that I
have the same files available on both PCs. So far Good. Yes? I think so.

Now comes the problem. Desk top I made the host and the ISDL modem is
connected to it via an USB cable. ( the Modem only has the USB output UK
edition). In the US the have RJ 45 output.
So, the Desk top gets on line, but the laptop... No ways!!
Click to expand...

Aubrey,

I would recommend to put the router away for the moment and
connect the two computers with the crossover cable. Then connect
the desktop to the DSL modem and activate ICS (Internet
Connection Sharing) on the modem port in the computer.
Activating ICS is the key point here. It's on the rightmost tab
of the Internet connection properties, probably a PPPoE
connection or some such. If this is not activated, the computer
will not share its Internet connection over the local network.

Now you should have a working network and both computers should
be able to reach the Internet as well.
Ah!! you say, has he set the modem on the Desk top to sharing?
Yes, I have and still nothing happens. I have configured the desk top to ICS
and the lap top accordingly as per Windows XP. Set Up Wizards
Click to expand...

This sounds as if you've done exactly what I described above,
but make sure it really is. There is nothing to set in the other
computer. ICS only has to be activated in the one computer that
has the Internet connection.

For some more possible problems, please have a look at
http://www.michna.com/kb/WxNetwork.htm.
To me it looks like the signal from the modem goes into the host PC via UBS
but cannot get to the Ethernet card (Realtek, if that is important)
Click to expand...

It should, if ICS is activated. If it doesn't, but the local
network works well otherwise, then you have about the opposite
problem of many others here in the newsgroup. Most people can
reach the Internet from all computers just fine, but can't make
them talk to each other.

When you used the networking wizard, which choice did you
select? In fact, it is not necessary to use the wizard. The
article I mentioned above contains all the required settings as
well. But if used properly, the wizard should also do the trick.

Hans-Georg
 
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