Comments on best browser to replace IE and Firefox?

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IE for obvious reasons, FF for several limitations I can't get around
(yes, I've been to the forums. No resolution.) Netscape already
ruled out.

Also looking for something secure that I can do my banking on.

Thanks.
 
IE for obvious reasons, FF for several limitations I can't get around
(yes, I've been to the forums. No resolution.) Netscape already
ruled out.

Also looking for something secure that I can do my banking on.
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I like Opera 8.02 and K-Meleon 0.9.
I'm confident to use either of them for my own Banking.
http://www.opera.com/
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/

There are frequent updates to Opera and security problems are quickly
fixed.

K-Meleon isn't updated as frequently as Opera or Firefox but I have
always preferred K-Meleon to Firefox.
 
On 19 Sep 2005, John Morrison wrote
I like Opera 8.02 and K-Meleon 0.9.
I'm confident to use either of them for my own Banking.
http://www.opera.com/
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/

There are frequent updates to Opera and security problems are
quickly fixed.

K-Meleon isn't updated as frequently as Opera or Firefox but I
have always preferred K-Meleon to Firefox.
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I'll second that -- I've used K-M as my default browser for about 6-8
months now, and am very happy with it.

(It took a little bit of fiddling to get it the way I wanted -- a tad
of geeky tinkering was involved -- but I really like it.)
 
On 19 Sep 2005, John Morrison wrote

I'll second that -- I've used K-M as my default browser for about 6-8
months now, and am very happy with it.

(It took a little bit of fiddling to get it the way I wanted -- a tad
of geeky tinkering was involved -- but I really like it.)
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That's great.
I have Opera as my default but for some of my daily tasks I prefer to
use K-Meleon instead of Opera. I know there are K-Meleon forums but I
don't like forums and I've never discovered a news group where
K-Meleon is discussed.
 
On 19 Sep 2005, John Morrison wrote
That's great.
I have Opera as my default but for some of my daily tasks I prefer
to use K-Meleon instead of Opera. I know there are K-Meleon forums
but I don't like forums and I've never discovered a news group
where K-Meleon is discussed.
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I've very seldom seen it mentioned in news groups, but when I was
setting things up, the K-Meleon forum was pretty good. (I've not
followed it for a while, as there's nothing I've needed to change in my
set-up.)

The most refreshing thing about that forum -- at least when I was
reading it -- was a very distinct lack of the yah-boo-sucks boosterism
that I seemed to encounter everywhere in the FF and Opera forums.
(Endless flame wars of the "this browser's great and everything else
sucks" -- or vice versa -- stuff.) The motto tended to be "my browser
is not my religion; whatever works for you is good, even that's
Microsoft", which made a nice change...
 
Without Any Hesitation fitwell Wrote The Following:
IE for obvious reasons, FF for several limitations I can't get around
(yes, I've been to the forums. No resolution.) Netscape already
ruled out.

Also looking for something secure that I can do my banking on.

Thanks.
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As an IE replacement: http://www.maxthon.com/ Second to none.
 
IE for obvious reasons, FF for several limitations I can't get
around (yes, I've been to the forums. No resolution.) Netscape
already ruled out.

Also looking for something secure that I can do my banking on.

Thanks.
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As an IE replacement: http://www.maxthon.com/ Second to none.[/QUOTE]

Isn't that an IE shell rather than a *replacement*? (That is, unlike
Mozilla, FF, K-Meleon, etc., if you don't have IE installed, Maxthon
won't work.)
 
Without Any Hesitation Harvey Van Sickle Wrote The Following:
On 19 Sep 2005, Old Gringo wrote




Isn't that an IE shell rather than a *replacement*? (That is, unlike
Mozilla, FF, K-Meleon, etc., if you don't have IE installed, Maxthon
won't work.)
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Don't have a clue, but it sure is a nice fast browser and very user
friendly. FireFox still my default.
 
lunedì 19 settembre 2005 Vic Dura ha scritto:
Opera is very good IMO. See www.opera.com Note that the freeware
version has a static banner 1/2" x 2" in the upper right hand corner.
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Except for the 8.02 and the anniversary gift :-)

I loved Firefox, but now Opera is my default browser, because has so many
features with a very low memory footprint (e.g. now is 8 MB with 9 tabs
open). Firefox never was below 20 MB.
 
Isn't that an IE shell rather than a *replacement*?
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Yes, it is, which has been pointed out countless times here, but nobody
ever seems to listen. As such, it has all the security holes that IE
does.

K-Meleon is merely another Gecko based browser, and is going to have the
same flaws and weaknesses that Firefox and Netscape do, with the added
risk that it is not patched regularly like Firefox is. For banking, that
is a real issue. If you are using a Gecko browser, and are concerned
about security, then Firefox or Mozilla are really the only options.
Nothing else gets the updates and patches the way yhey do.

If you get down to it, there are really only 3 real browser engines:
Gecko, IE, and Opera. Other browsers exist (like Off By One) but they are
primitive by big three standards, and are likely to be riddled with
security holes.
 
On 19 Sep 2005, elaich wrote
Yes, it is, which has been pointed out countless times here, but
nobody ever seems to listen. As such, it has all the security
holes that IE does.

K-Meleon is merely another Gecko based browser, and is going to
have the same flaws and weaknesses that Firefox and Netscape do,
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AIUI, the fact that it doesn't handle XML reduces at least some of
its exposure to the FF exploits.
 
elaich said:
Yes, it is, which has been pointed out countless times here, but
nobody ever seems to listen. As such, it has all the security holes
that IE does.
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I keep hearing about these supposed IE security holes, but in years of
using IE and IE+Maxthon, I have never been hit. I take all the usual
precautions and keep Windows updated regularly.

It seems to me the people doing the most whining about IE security are
non-users. What do they know about it anyway other than what's parroted
by other non-users?

Properly updated like any browser, IE is serving its users well around
the world. Maxthon only makes it better. I suspect IE7 is going to
destroy the competition, but we'll see.

Mr Bill
 
fitwell said:
IE for obvious reasons, FF for several limitations I can't get around
(yes, I've been to the forums. No resolution.) Netscape already
ruled out.

Also looking for something secure that I can do my banking on.

Thanks.
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Opera works very well for me. I've been using it as my secondary browser
since the anniversary giveaway, and I'm really liking it. If I didn't
have so much time and trouble invested in Firefox (which is still a
great browser overall and my default) I would use Opera all the time.
It's fast, and works perfectly with my online banking set-up, unlike
Firefox.
 
Yes, it is, which has been pointed out countless times here, but
nobody ever seems to listen. As such, it has all the security
holes that IE does.
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I keep hearing about these supposed IE security holes, but in
years of using IE and IE+Maxthon, I have never been hit. I take
all the usual precautions and keep Windows updated regularly.

It seems to me the people doing the most whining about IE security
are non-users. What do they know about it anyway other than what's
parroted by other non-users?[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, but frankly, I think that's the case with both sides
of this long-running tale. There's way too much "my browser/your
browser" stuff that goes on. (They're browsers, not fecking
religions...)
Properly updated like any browser, IE is serving its users well
around the world. Maxthon only makes it better. I suspect IE7 is
going to destroy the competition, but we'll see.
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I don't use IE, but I'd agree that way, way too much has been made of
the "drastic" fall in IE usage -- from >95% to, um, >90% or something.
It's still the gorilla in the forest, and likely to remain so.

How about this for contentious though (!): I've not had a virus of any
sort for over 6 years; I use very few MS products; BUT: I really
don't believe there's much of a correlation there.

I run a patched, clean machine, regularly scanned and maintained,
single-user (important, that one), and used with care. I'm fairly
certain that my strike rate on security issues wouldn't be much worse
if I was an IE/OE junkie instead of a Gecko/Poco/XNews junkie...

Security isn't system-dependent; it's operator-dependent.
 
ncSkeet said:
Opera works very well for me. I've been using it as my secondary
browser since the anniversary giveaway, and I'm really liking it.
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I tried it too during the freebie window (pun intended) and it worked
ok, but there were two show stoppers for me:
1. It can't save a .mht file (web page in a single file)
2. Does not work with RoboForm, which I can not live without. :-)

If they ever get those problems fixed, it will be almost as good as
IE+Maxthon.

Mr Bill
 
elaich said:
If you are using a Gecko browser, and are concerned
about security, then Firefox or Mozilla are really the only options.
Nothing else gets the updates and patches the way yhey do.
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And you may need those because according to
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=103&tag=nl.e589
there were quite a few FF vulnerabilities and exploits, lately:

recent vulnerabilities:
Firefox 1.x 40
IE 6.x 10

recent exploits:
Firefox 1.x 11
IE 6.x 6

(I know that it's not the whole story and I also believe more in Harvey's
operator-dependent security anyway.)
 
On 20 Sep 2005, wrote
For those using K-Meleon, I use & prefer this version.

http://anderson.sundns.com/#why
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I admire his consideration for dial-up users in splitting the package
into RAR files, but it'd make a lot more sense if he *also* included a
single-package zipped file to download as well.

(The forums seem to really like the CCF versions of K-M; I use the
"official" 0.9 release with a couple of tweaks as my default, though,
and am very happy with it.)

FWIW, the new "Dr Orca" Gecko-based browser (so far developed to alpha
stage by the guy who created the Avant IE shell) looks pretty good;
I'm going to keep an eye on that one.

(Direct link to the download
is http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/166091-YKTW/osetup.exe;
discussion of it is in the Avant forums at
http://forum.avantbrowser.com/.)
 

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