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Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It has done
this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the second
arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the event to the
Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related Knowledge
Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427
 
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve the issue.
Will post the outcome.

Wesley Vogel said:
To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the second
arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the event to the
Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related Knowledge
Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It has
done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
:-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve the
issue. Will post the outcome.

Wesley Vogel said:
To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the
second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the
event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It has
done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
Wes, Thanks for your info. I followed the various pieces of info on the
sites. I did follow one suggested resolution which I think fixed the COM+
prob. (The solution to the COM+ prob was to run a couple of cmds from the
Command Prompt and then go to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Windows
Components). However, since then I have now a problem with the Appmgmt.dll.
I checked that on the MSKB only to discover that it is a known bug, there is
a fix, but I don't qualify for support. My OS came with my HP box. This
Appmgmt.dll problem has occurred before, but after a reboot appeared OK. Now
however, even a reboot doesn't fix it - I therefore checked the contents of
Windows/System32 and sure enough, there ain't no Appmgmt.dll.

Wesley Vogel said:
:-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve the
issue. Will post the outcome.

Wesley Vogel said:
To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the
second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the
event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It has
done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
Appmgmt.dll does not seem to exist. I do not have it on my machine or on my
XP Pro CD or my XP Home CD. Not even a compressed version. A search at
DLL Help Database
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/fileversion/dllinfo.asp

brings back: No results found. Microsoft seems to never have heard of
Appmgmt.dll

There ain't no Appmgmt.dll. ;-)

I did find this reference to Appmgmt.dll...
[[The Application Management service is not supported in Microsoft Windows
XP Home Edition and the Appmgmt.dll file is not included with Windows XP
Home Edition.]]
Adding or removing a program may generate Event ID 7023
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328213

Black Viper suggests that you disable the Application Management service if
you have XP Home, until installation of Service Pack 2. I see that you have
SP2. Hmm...

There seems to be a spelling problem, because it's APPMGMTS.DLL.

APPMGMTS.DLL = Software installation Service

APPMGMTS.DLL lives here >>>
C:\WINDOWS\system32
and
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache

APPMGMTS.DL_ the compressed version of APPMGMTS.DLL is on my XP Pro CD.
APPMGMTS.DL_ is in the :\I386 folder.
APPMGMTS.DL_ does not exist on my XP Home CD. That part seems correct.

[[Appmgmts.dll is an MMC extension to gpedit.dll that provides settings for
Software Installation Group Policy.]]

That explains why it does not exist on XP Home. gpedit.dll is not available
on XP Home. Gpedit.msc is not available on XP Home.

gpedit.dll = GPEdit
gpedit.msc = Group Policy
=====

I have every COM+ and DCOM item disabled. I get errors in the Event Viewer.
Big deal.

If you do not have any COM+ Applications installed, disable the COM+
System Application Service.

See these two links...

COM+ System Application Service
http://www.theeldergeek.com/com+_system_application.htm

COM+ System Application
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#COM+_System_Application

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Wes, Thanks for your info. I followed the various pieces of info on
the sites. I did follow one suggested resolution which I think fixed
the COM+ prob. (The solution to the COM+ prob was to run a couple of
cmds from the Command Prompt and then go to Control Panel Add/Remove
Programs Windows Components). However, since then I have now a
problem with the Appmgmt.dll. I checked that on the MSKB only to
discover that it is a known bug, there is a fix, but I don't qualify
for support. My OS came with my HP box. This Appmgmt.dll problem has
occurred before, but after a reboot appeared OK. Now however, even a
reboot doesn't fix it - I therefore checked the contents of
Windows/System32 and sure enough, there ain't no Appmgmt.dll.

Wesley Vogel said:
:-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve
the issue. Will post the outcome.

:

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below
the second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the
event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It
has done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
Wes, again thanks for the research you are doing into this. My PC (HP) came
with Windows XP Home Edition already installed. I am in Australia, so I am
not sure if there are differing version in XP HE, however it had the
Appmgmt.dll. I suspect that the plural version (Appmgmts.dll) is XP Pro
specific. Why I have been pursuing the errors is because about 50% of the
time you boot up specific applications wont start. Some at least provide an
error message of sorts, others just don't start - the pointer becomes an "Egg
timer" and then simply returns to a pointer with no application running and
no messages. Since I reinstalled the COM+ thing and with the resultant
situation whereby Appmgmt.dll was no longer available with a number of
applications returning the application management service error, I followed
your advice and researched and researched. I eventually managed to send an
email to MS and very promptly received a response with advice on how to go
about things. It involved a number of steps, the 1st being to remove SP2.
To that end there were reasons given and a link to an MS site. This provided
the relevant insructions which I followed and which removed SP2. Once having
done that I had to reboot the PC at least 5 times with different results
(hanging, lots of start up errors etc) but finally I managed to reboot and
have the PC in a reasonable working order. Step 2 was to check on
preinstallation requirements for SP2. This resulted in a further six or so
steps most being quite onerous and many didn't work (due to nview.ddl errors
- a new error for my system). My virus checker also suddenly found about 5
virus ?didn't detect any prior to this? One of these steps involved visiting
the HP site which led to a series of more steps including 6 HP driver
updates. Once I finished all those (about 20hours in total effort because
step involved a reboot) the PC finally started behaving itself. Much of the
functionality I had lost with the SP2 upgrade (inc setting restore points)
finally worked again. Step 3 is to download SP2 again because theoretically
the PC is now SP2 ready. I haven't done that yet. Interestingly, I still
have the same Appn Mgmt error. However I have "tricked" the PC into thinking
it is OK by copying appmgmts.dll and renaming it. With that done all the
apps work. If I remove it, they don't. BEATS ME! Once I have reinstalled
SP2 I will post the results.

Wesley Vogel said:
Appmgmt.dll does not seem to exist. I do not have it on my machine or on my
XP Pro CD or my XP Home CD. Not even a compressed version. A search at
DLL Help Database
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/fileversion/dllinfo.asp

brings back: No results found. Microsoft seems to never have heard of
Appmgmt.dll

There ain't no Appmgmt.dll. ;-)

I did find this reference to Appmgmt.dll...
[[The Application Management service is not supported in Microsoft Windows
XP Home Edition and the Appmgmt.dll file is not included with Windows XP
Home Edition.]]
Adding or removing a program may generate Event ID 7023
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328213

Black Viper suggests that you disable the Application Management service if
you have XP Home, until installation of Service Pack 2. I see that you have
SP2. Hmm...

There seems to be a spelling problem, because it's APPMGMTS.DLL.

APPMGMTS.DLL = Software installation Service

APPMGMTS.DLL lives here >>>
C:\WINDOWS\system32
and
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache

APPMGMTS.DL_ the compressed version of APPMGMTS.DLL is on my XP Pro CD.
APPMGMTS.DL_ is in the :\I386 folder.
APPMGMTS.DL_ does not exist on my XP Home CD. That part seems correct.

[[Appmgmts.dll is an MMC extension to gpedit.dll that provides settings for
Software Installation Group Policy.]]

That explains why it does not exist on XP Home. gpedit.dll is not available
on XP Home. Gpedit.msc is not available on XP Home.

gpedit.dll = GPEdit
gpedit.msc = Group Policy
=====

I have every COM+ and DCOM item disabled. I get errors in the Event Viewer.
Big deal.

If you do not have any COM+ Applications installed, disable the COM+
System Application Service.

See these two links...

COM+ System Application Service
http://www.theeldergeek.com/com+_system_application.htm

COM+ System Application
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#COM+_System_Application

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Wes, Thanks for your info. I followed the various pieces of info on
the sites. I did follow one suggested resolution which I think fixed
the COM+ prob. (The solution to the COM+ prob was to run a couple of
cmds from the Command Prompt and then go to Control Panel Add/Remove
Programs Windows Components). However, since then I have now a
problem with the Appmgmt.dll. I checked that on the MSKB only to
discover that it is a known bug, there is a fix, but I don't qualify
for support. My OS came with my HP box. This Appmgmt.dll problem has
occurred before, but after a reboot appeared OK. Now however, even a
reboot doesn't fix it - I therefore checked the contents of
Windows/System32 and sure enough, there ain't no Appmgmt.dll.

Wesley Vogel said:
:-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve
the issue. Will post the outcome.

:

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below
the second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the
event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It
has done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
Ramerman,

Before installing SP2 again, check your machine for spyware also. Keep your
anti virus software updated and scan your machine at least once a week or
every time AV software is updated.

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2_whattoknow.mspx

Good luck. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Wes, again thanks for the research you are doing into this. My PC
(HP) came with Windows XP Home Edition already installed. I am in
Australia, so I am not sure if there are differing version in XP HE,
however it had the Appmgmt.dll. I suspect that the plural version
(Appmgmts.dll) is XP Pro specific. Why I have been pursuing the
errors is because about 50% of the time you boot up specific
applications wont start. Some at least provide an error message of
sorts, others just don't start - the pointer becomes an "Egg timer"
and then simply returns to a pointer with no application running and
no messages. Since I reinstalled the COM+ thing and with the
resultant situation whereby Appmgmt.dll was no longer available with
a number of applications returning the application management service
error, I followed your advice and researched and researched. I
eventually managed to send an email to MS and very promptly received
a response with advice on how to go about things. It involved a
number of steps, the 1st being to remove SP2. To that end there were
reasons given and a link to an MS site. This provided the relevant
insructions which I followed and which removed SP2. Once having done
that I had to reboot the PC at least 5 times with different results
(hanging, lots of start up errors etc) but finally I managed to
reboot and have the PC in a reasonable working order. Step 2 was to
check on preinstallation requirements for SP2. This resulted in a
further six or so steps most being quite onerous and many didn't work
(due to nview.ddl errors - a new error for my system). My virus
checker also suddenly found about 5 virus ?didn't detect any prior to
this? One of these steps involved visiting the HP site which led to
a series of more steps including 6 HP driver updates. Once I
finished all those (about 20hours in total effort because step
involved a reboot) the PC finally started behaving itself. Much of
the functionality I had lost with the SP2 upgrade (inc setting
restore points) finally worked again. Step 3 is to download SP2
again because theoretically the PC is now SP2 ready. I haven't done
that yet. Interestingly, I still have the same Appn Mgmt error.
However I have "tricked" the PC into thinking it is OK by copying
appmgmts.dll and renaming it. With that done all the apps work. If
I remove it, they don't. BEATS ME! Once I have reinstalled SP2 I
will post the results.

Wesley Vogel said:
Appmgmt.dll does not seem to exist. I do not have it on my machine
or on my XP Pro CD or my XP Home CD. Not even a compressed version.
A search at DLL Help Database
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/fileversion/dllinfo.asp

brings back: No results found. Microsoft seems to never have heard
of Appmgmt.dll

There ain't no Appmgmt.dll. ;-)

I did find this reference to Appmgmt.dll...
[[The Application Management service is not supported in Microsoft
Windows XP Home Edition and the Appmgmt.dll file is not included
with Windows XP Home Edition.]]
Adding or removing a program may generate Event ID 7023
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328213

Black Viper suggests that you disable the Application Management
service if you have XP Home, until installation of Service Pack 2.
I see that you have SP2. Hmm...

There seems to be a spelling problem, because it's APPMGMTS.DLL.

APPMGMTS.DLL = Software installation Service

APPMGMTS.DLL lives here >>>
C:\WINDOWS\system32
and
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache

APPMGMTS.DL_ the compressed version of APPMGMTS.DLL is on my XP Pro
CD. APPMGMTS.DL_ is in the :\I386 folder.
APPMGMTS.DL_ does not exist on my XP Home CD. That part seems
correct.

[[Appmgmts.dll is an MMC extension to gpedit.dll that provides
settings for Software Installation Group Policy.]]

That explains why it does not exist on XP Home. gpedit.dll is not
available on XP Home. Gpedit.msc is not available on XP Home.

gpedit.dll = GPEdit
gpedit.msc = Group Policy
=====

I have every COM+ and DCOM item disabled. I get errors in the Event
Viewer. Big deal.

If you do not have any COM+ Applications installed, disable the COM+
System Application Service.

See these two links...

COM+ System Application Service
http://www.theeldergeek.com/com+_system_application.htm

COM+ System Application
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#COM+_System_Application

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Ramerman said:
Wes, Thanks for your info. I followed the various pieces of info on
the sites. I did follow one suggested resolution which I think fixed
the COM+ prob. (The solution to the COM+ prob was to run a couple of
cmds from the Command Prompt and then go to Control Panel Add/Remove
Programs Windows Components). However, since then I have now a
problem with the Appmgmt.dll. I checked that on the MSKB only to
discover that it is a known bug, there is a fix, but I don't qualify
for support. My OS came with my HP box. This Appmgmt.dll problem
has occurred before, but after a reboot appeared OK. Now however,
even a reboot doesn't fix it - I therefore checked the contents of
Windows/System32 and sure enough, there ain't no Appmgmt.dll.

:

:-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve
the issue. Will post the outcome.

:

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below
the second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of
the event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Ramerman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.

The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It
has done this 3 time(s).

I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
 
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