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I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it hangs with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
 
If you are using SATA drives, you need to provide the Windows installer with
the driver for the SATA controller as supplied with the computer or
motherboard on a floppy diskette. Right after the text phase of
installation starts, you will see "Hit F6 to provide a manufacturer's
driver..." (I forget the exact wording) on the bottom of the screen. It
does not stay long so you have to look for it. After you hit F6 wait until
the installer asks for the diskette. Be sure to remove the diskette after
the installer finishes with it so that it is not still in drive A: on the
next reboot.
 
No they are not SATA, they are IDE drives. I saw that question go by but I
didn't press F6 nor did I hit F2 to do a ASR. It is right after this that
the system hangs with "Windows Setup" up top. If I put a winXP boot floppy
in and boot there are no hard drive letters (e.g. C, D, E,). They all return
"invalid drive specification" except for the CD ROM.

Colin Barnhorst said:
If you are using SATA drives, you need to provide the Windows installer with
the driver for the SATA controller as supplied with the computer or
motherboard on a floppy diskette. Right after the text phase of
installation starts, you will see "Hit F6 to provide a manufacturer's
driver..." (I forget the exact wording) on the bottom of the screen. It
does not stay long so you have to look for it. After you hit F6 wait until
the installer asks for the diskette. Be sure to remove the diskette after
the installer finishes with it so that it is not still in drive A: on the
next reboot.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Bob May said:
I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
This sounds like a hardware issue.

Check cables and connectors.

Check with the motherboard manufacturer for the correct BIOS settings and
then check the BIOS.

Make sure the power supply is rated high enough for what you have on the
box, especially if you recently added new hardware.

If you have two memory cards, remove one and see if you can get through the
installation that way. If that works, I definitely would suspect that the
power supply just is not rated high enough or has weakened.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
No they are not SATA, they are IDE drives. I saw that question go by but
I
didn't press F6 nor did I hit F2 to do a ASR. It is right after this that
the system hangs with "Windows Setup" up top. If I put a winXP boot
floppy
in and boot there are no hard drive letters (e.g. C, D, E,). They all
return
"invalid drive specification" except for the CD ROM.

Colin Barnhorst said:
If you are using SATA drives, you need to provide the Windows installer
with
the driver for the SATA controller as supplied with the computer or
motherboard on a floppy diskette. Right after the text phase of
installation starts, you will see "Hit F6 to provide a manufacturer's
driver..." (I forget the exact wording) on the bottom of the screen. It
does not stay long so you have to look for it. After you hit F6 wait
until
the installer asks for the diskette. Be sure to remove the diskette
after
the installer finishes with it so that it is not still in drive A: on the
next reboot.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it
hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it
complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made
the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Beleive it or not I have done the things you suggested:

The Power Supply is a Intec 350w new power supply. I have tried a different
power supply.

There is only one 512 meg PC133 64x4 memory chip. This is supposed to work
with the Intel 845 chip set on the motherboard.

The BIOS has been updated to the latest one for the Asus P4B motherboard.

I have checked the IDE cables. I partitioned and formatted both 160 gig
drives.

Do you have any more suggestions? Is there any other way to start up the
system?

Colin Barnhorst said:
This sounds like a hardware issue.

Check cables and connectors.

Check with the motherboard manufacturer for the correct BIOS settings and
then check the BIOS.

Make sure the power supply is rated high enough for what you have on the
box, especially if you recently added new hardware.

If you have two memory cards, remove one and see if you can get through the
installation that way. If that works, I definitely would suspect that the
power supply just is not rated high enough or has weakened.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
No they are not SATA, they are IDE drives. I saw that question go by but
I
didn't press F6 nor did I hit F2 to do a ASR. It is right after this that
the system hangs with "Windows Setup" up top. If I put a winXP boot
floppy
in and boot there are no hard drive letters (e.g. C, D, E,). They all
return
"invalid drive specification" except for the CD ROM.

Colin Barnhorst said:
If you are using SATA drives, you need to provide the Windows installer
with
the driver for the SATA controller as supplied with the computer or
motherboard on a floppy diskette. Right after the text phase of
installation starts, you will see "Hit F6 to provide a manufacturer's
driver..." (I forget the exact wording) on the bottom of the screen. It
does not stay long so you have to look for it. After you hit F6 wait
until
the installer asks for the diskette. Be sure to remove the diskette
after
the installer finishes with it so that it is not still in drive A: on the
next reboot.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it
hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it
complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made
the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Bob May said:
I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...

Did you use PM7 after the first failure or before?
 
Is the copy of XP recent enough to include SP2? If it is an original XP cd
it might not support drives over 137GB because as I recall that was an
update to SP1. If that is the case, post back for a solution. The box will
say what edition of XP it is. If it says nothing about including a service
pack then you will want to update it to SP2. First let's determine what it
is.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
Beleive it or not I have done the things you suggested:

The Power Supply is a Intec 350w new power supply. I have tried a
different
power supply.

There is only one 512 meg PC133 64x4 memory chip. This is supposed to
work
with the Intel 845 chip set on the motherboard.

The BIOS has been updated to the latest one for the Asus P4B motherboard.

I have checked the IDE cables. I partitioned and formatted both 160 gig
drives.

Do you have any more suggestions? Is there any other way to start up the
system?

Colin Barnhorst said:
This sounds like a hardware issue.

Check cables and connectors.

Check with the motherboard manufacturer for the correct BIOS settings and
then check the BIOS.

Make sure the power supply is rated high enough for what you have on the
box, especially if you recently added new hardware.

If you have two memory cards, remove one and see if you can get through
the
installation that way. If that works, I definitely would suspect that
the
power supply just is not rated high enough or has weakened.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
No they are not SATA, they are IDE drives. I saw that question go by
but
I
didn't press F6 nor did I hit F2 to do a ASR. It is right after this
that
the system hangs with "Windows Setup" up top. If I put a winXP boot
floppy
in and boot there are no hard drive letters (e.g. C, D, E,). They all
return
"invalid drive specification" except for the CD ROM.

:

If you are using SATA drives, you need to provide the Windows
installer
with
the driver for the SATA controller as supplied with the computer or
motherboard on a floppy diskette. Right after the text phase of
installation starts, you will see "Hit F6 to provide a manufacturer's
driver..." (I forget the exact wording) on the bottom of the screen.
It
does not stay long so you have to look for it. After you hit F6 wait
until
the installer asks for the diskette. Be sure to remove the diskette
after
the installer finishes with it so that it is not still in drive A: on
the
next reboot.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD
in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot
from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it
hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using
Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it
complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I
made
the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
To: Colin Barnhorst: Good Point. It is the original version of Windows XP.
I have been looking how to add (spin?) sp2 to the CD. It's quite a
proceedure. I'll have to go through it. Do you have an easy one?

To: Clark Grisworld's question: I think I used PM7 before I got the first
error. But I upgraded to PM 8.0 which supports 300 gig drives (PM7 said it
supported 80 gig drives). I noticed in PM7 that it took no time to format.
That's not right. I am doing it with PM8 now and, at the rate it is going,
will take all night to finish which is more like it. (Then I have two 100
gig partitions and one 60 gig partitions to go). Maybe I'll get done next by
next week. The two drives are 160 gig each.
 
Absolutely! Download Autostreamer from
http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html and install it. Download the
Network Install version of the SP2 file from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
and save it to the desktop.
Insert the XP cd in the drive and cancel the splashscreen. Run autostreamer
and all you have to do is point to the cd drive in the first window and the
SP2 executable in the second. Ok the temp location offered and then tell it
to write the .iso file to the desktop. When done burn the .iso to cd and
that's it.
 
Frankly, with the availabilty of cheap external drives now, I don't
partition any more. I have 1.25 TB on this machine alone and no drive is
partitioned. Simply doesn't do anything for me.
 
To Colin Barnhorst: Thanks, I'll try Autostreamer. I'll post how it worked.

To Clark Griswold: The first partition is formatted. I streamed the other
three partitions with PM8. We'll see how long it takes.

Colin Barnhorst said:
Absolutely! Download Autostreamer from
http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html and install it. Download the
Network Install version of the SP2 file from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
and save it to the desktop.
Insert the XP cd in the drive and cancel the splashscreen. Run autostreamer
and all you have to do is point to the cd drive in the first window and the
SP2 executable in the second. Ok the temp location offered and then tell it
to write the .iso file to the desktop. When done burn the .iso to cd and
that's it.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
To: Colin Barnhorst: Good Point. It is the original version of Windows
XP.
I have been looking how to add (spin?) sp2 to the CD. It's quite a
proceedure. I'll have to go through it. Do you have an easy one?

To: Clark Grisworld's question: I think I used PM7 before I got the first
error. But I upgraded to PM 8.0 which supports 300 gig drives (PM7 said
it
supported 80 gig drives). I noticed in PM7 that it took no time to
format.
That's not right. I am doing it with PM8 now and, at the rate it is
going,
will take all night to finish which is more like it. (Then I have two 100
gig partitions and one 60 gig partitions to go). Maybe I'll get done next
by
next week. The two drives are 160 gig each.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Autostreamer is the way to go when slipstreaming service packs.
Ditch the PM and go with WindowsXP partitioning and formating. Less things
to go wrong down the line.
PM is handy when resizing partitions without losing data.
 
To Colin Barbhorst: Unfortunately Autostreamer is no longer available at the
URL you specified. Is there somewhere else I could get it? Could you email
it to me at (e-mail address removed)?

Bob May said:
To Colin Barnhorst: Thanks, I'll try Autostreamer. I'll post how it worked.

To Clark Griswold: The first partition is formatted. I streamed the other
three partitions with PM8. We'll see how long it takes.

Colin Barnhorst said:
Absolutely! Download Autostreamer from
http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html and install it. Download the
Network Install version of the SP2 file from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
and save it to the desktop.
Insert the XP cd in the drive and cancel the splashscreen. Run autostreamer
and all you have to do is point to the cd drive in the first window and the
SP2 executable in the second. Ok the temp location offered and then tell it
to write the .iso file to the desktop. When done burn the .iso to cd and
that's it.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
To: Colin Barnhorst: Good Point. It is the original version of Windows
XP.
I have been looking how to add (spin?) sp2 to the CD. It's quite a
proceedure. I'll have to go through it. Do you have an easy one?

To: Clark Grisworld's question: I think I used PM7 before I got the first
error. But I upgraded to PM 8.0 which supports 300 gig drives (PM7 said
it
supported 80 gig drives). I noticed in PM7 that it took no time to
format.
That's not right. I am doing it with PM8 now and, at the rate it is
going,
will take all night to finish which is more like it. (Then I have two 100
gig partitions and one 60 gig partitions to go). Maybe I'll get done next
by
next week. The two drives are 160 gig each.

:

I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it
hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it
complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I made
the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
AutoStreamer 1.0.33
http://www.wbeta.com/comments.php?shownews=1063&catid=2

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Windows XP - Shell/User
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:

| To Colin Barbhorst: Unfortunately Autostreamer is no longer available at the
| URL you specified. Is there somewhere else I could get it? Could you email
| it to me at (e-mail address removed)?
 
As I told Colin, the autostreamer site no longer allows downloads of
Autostreamer. Do you know of any other place to get it. I will use WinXP
formatter if I can slipstream SP2 in to WinXP and burn a new WinXP CD.
 
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562
You have to scroll down a ways.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Bob May said:
To Colin Barbhorst: Unfortunately Autostreamer is no longer available at
the
URL you specified. Is there somewhere else I could get it? Could you
email
it to me at (e-mail address removed)?

Bob May said:
To Colin Barnhorst: Thanks, I'll try Autostreamer. I'll post how it
worked.

To Clark Griswold: The first partition is formatted. I streamed the
other
three partitions with PM8. We'll see how long it takes.

Colin Barnhorst said:
Absolutely! Download Autostreamer from
http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html and install it. Download
the
Network Install version of the SP2 file from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
and save it to the desktop.
Insert the XP cd in the drive and cancel the splashscreen. Run
autostreamer
and all you have to do is point to the cd drive in the first window and
the
SP2 executable in the second. Ok the temp location offered and then
tell it
to write the .iso file to the desktop. When done burn the .iso to cd
and
that's it.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
To: Colin Barnhorst: Good Point. It is the original version of
Windows
XP.
I have been looking how to add (spin?) sp2 to the CD. It's quite a
proceedure. I'll have to go through it. Do you have an easy one?

To: Clark Grisworld's question: I think I used PM7 before I got the
first
error. But I upgraded to PM 8.0 which supports 300 gig drives (PM7
said
it
supported 80 gig drives). I noticed in PM7 that it took no time to
format.
That's not right. I am doing it with PM8 now and, at the rate it is
going,
will take all night to finish which is more like it. (Then I have
two 100
gig partitions and one 60 gig partitions to go). Maybe I'll get done
next
by
next week. The two drives are 160 gig each.

:

I have a new system with new two 160gig IDE disks. I put a WIN XP
CD in
and
boot. It hangs after I hit any key when it asks if I want to boot
from
CD.
It looks at the system then asks me if I want to run ASR. Then it
hangs
with
Windows Setup at the top. I tried formating the drives using
Partition
Magic
7. They apparently formatted (each with two partitions) but it
complained
that the Boot Sector exceded 1024 and may not be able to boot. I
made
the
first disk, first partition (60 gig) Active.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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