Can easy transfer use disk from crashed pc

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my pc went belly up this week, but the disk drive survived. My new PC is
vista, but I have all the data from the old PC on what is now an external
drive.

Is ther any way of automatically recovering the documents and settings from
the drive?
 
ThosRTanner said:
my pc went belly up this week, but the disk drive survived. My new PC is
vista, but I have all the data from the old PC on what is now an external
drive.

Is ther any way of automatically recovering the documents and settings
from
the drive?
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ThosRTanner said:
my pc went belly up this week, but the disk drive survived. My new PC is
vista, but I have all the data from the old PC on what is now an external
drive.

Is ther any way of automatically recovering the documents and settings
from
the drive?
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The Documents yes and even Favorites and Mail contacts if you exported them
first but not programs. They need reinstalling on Vista.
 
Hi,

Take ownership of the files, then move them to the new system. To take
ownership, right click the desired folder on the drive and select
properties. On the security tab click advanced, then go to the ownership tab
and click edit. Change the owner to your account, then check the box to
propagate to all folders and subcontainers. Click apply and wait for the
changes to run. Close up the properties and you should now be able to access
the folders.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
There are several possible ways of connecting your old drive to your current
PC. The simplest is with a USB adaptor.
See http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002 for an
example. (I use this particular one with a variety of drives and can
recommend it.)

It may also be possible to connect the drive as a secondary or slave in your
current PC depending on whether IDE or SATA and whether a suitable
connection is available.

The data files can then be copied. You may be able to use the Windows
transfer wizard (Look at this in Vista help) if you are not sufficiently
knowledgeable about the file locations to do it manually.
 
Yes, I've got the drive in a USB box. But my new PC is vista, and the
windows transfer wizard doesn't seem to have the option for transferring
files from this machine to itself (or at least, not that I've been able to
find).

I've managed to migrate documents & such like OK, but emails and registry
settings - no :-(
 
I had a similar situation with a Motherboard failure on my old XP machine a
week ago, and received this new Vista system Monday. Due to the evident
Formatting differences, with a USB Adapter/Converter for my old ATA Drive,
although the Vista system recognized the Drive, It did not recognize "any"
files on it at all, and wanted to Re-Format it. It wouldn't work as a Slave
either, no matter what configuration we put it in.

Thanks to a knowlegable uncle and other guru friends, we have another older
machine in which we installed "XP" on a clean Drive, and then put my old
Drive on as a Slave.

However, WET still would not work correctly, because on my new HP system,
the HD is partitioned for a Recovery Disk "D", and WET only transfers to
"Same" Drive. There is NOT enough room on that drive at all, and requied
picking individual files small enough to fit, or it would freeze, then
closing WET, and manually copying the files to the Vista "C" Drive from the
"D" Drive.

After consulting {on-going} with Microsoft Support, we determined after
several other various procedures and hours, that I would just have to go to
the "XP" computer and manually copy all of the desired files from my old
Drive to the "C" drive on the "XP" computer.

After this, WET appeared to work fine, EXCEPT for my Outlook Express Program
& Files. Although Windows Explorer shows that there are files there, Windows
Mail cannot Import either my Contacts nor my Messages {absolutely needed for
legal paperwork in progress}. Windows Mail says there are no files. This
"appears" to be the only problem with my transfer, at this time.

Any suggestions as to "where" I can find my "dbx" files or "wab" files
elsewhere other than in the Outlook Express Folder, for Importation?
 
"Patrick Henry Hartnett" wrote: [Above Edited Below Per Message Files, etc.]

I had a similar situation with a Motherboard failure on my old XP machine a
week ago, and received this new Vista system Monday. Due to the evident
Formatting differences, with a USB Adapter/Converter for my old ATA Drive,
although the Vista system recognized the Drive, It did not recognize "any"
files on it at all, and wanted to Re-Format it. It wouldn't work as a Slave
either, no matter what configuration we put it in.

Thanks to a knowlegable uncle and other guru friends, we have another older
machine in which we installed "XP" on a clean Drive, and then put my old
Drive on as a Slave.

However, WET still would not work correctly, because on my new HP system,
the HD is partitioned for a Recovery Disk "D", and WET only transfers to
"Same" Drive. There is NOT enough room on that drive at all, and requied
picking individual files small enough to fit, or it would freeze, then
closing WET, and manually copying the files to the Vista "C" Drive from the
"D" Drive.

After consulting {on-going} with Microsoft Support, we determined after
several other various procedures and hours, that I would just have to go to
the "XP" computer and manually copy all of the desired files from my old
Drive to the "C" drive on the "XP" computer.

After this, WET appeared to work fine, EXCEPT for my Outlook Express Program
& Files. Although Windows Explorer shows that there are files there, Windows
Mail cannot Import either my Contacts nor my Messages {absolutely needed for
legal paperwork in progress}. Windows Mail says there are no files. This
"appears" to be the only problem with my transfer, at this time.

Any suggestions as to "where" I can find my "dbx" files or "wab" files
elsewhere other than in the Outlook Express Folder, for Importation?

I've now Edited this to include information from a local Tech whom showed me
how to find the message files at <C:/Documents and
Settings\Usernamehere\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{a series
Key number\Microsoft\Outlook Express>; and the address book at <C:/Documents
and Settings\Application Data\User\Usernamehere\Microsoft\Address Book>.

Unfortunately, you must also set these files/folders for "Sharing", in order
to copy or transfer them. In my case, I must take the older computer to the
tech so he can remove the permissions from my old drive, in order to transfer
them. But, I'm closer now.

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Patrick Henry Hartnett wrote:

(much snippage)
I've now Edited this to include information from a local Tech whom showed me
how to find the message files at <C:/Documents and
Settings\Usernamehere\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{a series
Key number\Microsoft\Outlook Express>; and the address book at <C:/Documents
and Settings\Application Data\User\Usernamehere\Microsoft\Address Book>.

Unfortunately, you must also set these files/folders for "Sharing", in order
to copy or transfer them. In my case, I must take the older computer to the
tech so he can remove the permissions from my old drive, in order to transfer
them. But, I'm closer now.
Click to expand...

You don't need to take the computer to a tech for him to "remove
permissions". You just need to take ownership of the files.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421
How Do I Get the Security tab in Folder Properties? -
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm


Malke
 
You make it sound soooo easy! However, perhaps you "missed" the portion of
this Hard Drive now being a "Slave" on another system due to the Motherboard
crash on the system it was on. It appears rather impossible to take
"Ownership" of the files on an additional computer which doesn't even belong
to me!

Just how would YOU do it, if you had my problem?

Malke said:
Patrick Henry Hartnett wrote:

(much snippage)
I've now Edited this to include information from a local Tech whom showed me
how to find the message files at <C:/Documents and
Settings\Usernamehere\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{a series
Key number\Microsoft\Outlook Express>; and the address book at <C:/Documents
and Settings\Application Data\User\Usernamehere\Microsoft\Address Book>.

Unfortunately, you must also set these files/folders for "Sharing", in order
to copy or transfer them. In my case, I must take the older computer to the
tech so he can remove the permissions from my old drive, in order to transfer
them. But, I'm closer now.
Click to expand...

You don't need to take the computer to a tech for him to "remove
permissions". You just need to take ownership of the files.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421
How Do I Get the Security tab in Folder Properties? -
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Click to expand...
 
You make it sound soooo easy! However, perhaps you "missed" the portion of
this Hard Drive now being a "Slave" on another system due to the Motherboard
crash on the system it was on. It appears rather impossible to take
"Ownership" of the files on an additional computer which doesn't even belong
to me!

Just how would YOU do it, if you had my problem?

Malke said:
Patrick Henry Hartnett wrote:

(much snippage)
I've now Edited this to include information from a local Tech whom showed me
how to find the message files at <C:/Documents and
Settings\Usernamehere\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{a series
Key number\Microsoft\Outlook Express>; and the address book at <C:/Documents
and Settings\Application Data\User\Usernamehere\Microsoft\Address Book>.

Unfortunately, you must also set these files/folders for "Sharing", in order
to copy or transfer them. In my case, I must take the older computer to the
tech so he can remove the permissions from my old drive, in order to transfer
them. But, I'm closer now.
Click to expand...

You don't need to take the computer to a tech for him to "remove
permissions". You just need to take ownership of the files.

Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421] -
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421
How Do I Get the Security tab in Folder Properties? -
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_security_tab.htm


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Click to expand...
 
:

[Snipped all} of the above message]

Going to your Microsoft Links, and following the suggestions in "XP" Home
Addition, as suggested, going to "Safe Mode", upon selecting it, the system
even "hangs" without continuing to Startup. I'm not positive, but the "C"
Drive may be Fastfat, where the "D" Drive {my old Drive} is NTFS.

Therefore, I believe my only solution is the Tech with the correct program
to resolve this issue.

As above, any other suggestions?
 
Patrick said:
No question about it, the "C" Drive is Fat 32!
Click to expand...

I didn't "miss" that your drive was slaved in another system. That's the
reason you couldn't work with the files - because they didn't "belong"
to anyone on the XP install from which you are working. Since you
formatted the C:\ drive FAT32, you've limited your options.

If I were there, I would simply boot with Knoppix (a Linux distro that
runs from CD) and copy the files to an external hard drive. Linux will
not honor XP's permissions so there is no difficulty in retrieving the
data. Whether or not you have the skill to do this, only you know. I'll
give you basic instructions below but certainly if you feel this isn't
your cup of tea you should have a tech take care of it.

Using Knoppix to retrieve Windows data - You will need a computer with
two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a usb thumb drive with
enough capacity to hold your data OR an external usb/firewire hard drive
formatted FAT32 (not NTFS). To get Knoppix, you need a computer with a
fast Internet connection and third-party burning software. Download the
Knoppix .iso and create your bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will
be able to see the Windows files. If you are using the usb thumb drive
or the external hard drive, right-click on its icon (on the Desktop) to
get its properties and uncheck the box that says "Read Only". Then click
on it to open it. Note that the default mouse action in the window
manager used by Knoppix (KDE) is a single click to open instead of the
traditional MS Windows' double-click. Otherwise, use the K3b burning
program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.

http://www.knoppix.net

Malke
 
I thank you for your efforts anyhow. However, although I could have taken it
back to the Owner, my Uncle whom had a Utility, I took it to the Tech today,
whom was able to get them for me. I've yet to boot it up, and he said there
were some additional momentary problems, but was able to copy the files to
the "C" drive for me to Transfer.

My uncle {one of the inventors of mobile satelite communications system},
but was too busy today to get to it. plans to partition this drive with FAT
32 and NTFS both running. Why, I couldn't tell you, but that is his plan.

Malke said:
Patrick Henry Hartnett wrote:
Click to expand...
No question about it, the "C" Drive is Fat 32!

I didn't "miss" that your drive was slaved in another system. That's the
reason you couldn't work with the files - because they didn't "belong" to
anyone on the XP install from which you are working. Since you formatted the
C:\ drive FAT32, you've limited your options.

If I were there, I would simply boot with Knoppix (a Linux distro that runs
from CD) and copy the files to an external hard drive. Linux will not honor
XP's permissions so there is no difficulty in retrieving the data. Whether or
not you have the skill to do this, only you know. I'll give you basic
instructions below but certainly if you feel this isn't your cup of tea you
should have a tech take care of it.

Using Knoppix to retrieve Windows data - You will need a computer with two
cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a usb thumb drive with enough
capacity to hold your data OR an external usb/firewire hard drive formatted
FAT32 (not NTFS). To get Knoppix, you need a computer with a fast Internet
connection and third-party burning software. Download the Knoppix .iso and
create your bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see the
Windows files. If you are using the usb thumb drive or the external hard
drive, right-click on its icon (on the Desktop) to get its properties and
uncheck the box that says "Read Only". Then click on it to open it. Note that
the default mouse action in the window manager used by Knoppix (KDE) is a
single click to open instead of the traditional MS Windows' double-click.
Otherwise, use the K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.

http://www.knoppix.net

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP
Windows - Shell/User

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