Boot to a command prompt

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John O

Is there any way to make XP boot to a command prompt....not including
recovery console.

I'd like to setup a test system where XP runs on FAT32, and boots to c:\_

-John O
 
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| Is there any way to make XP boot to a command prompt....not including
| recovery console.
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| I'd like to setup a test system where XP runs on FAT32, and boots to c:\_
|
| -John O
 
From XP HELP:

[[To start your computer at a command prompt
1. Print these instructions before continuing. They will not be available
after you shut your computer down in step 2.
2. Click Start, click Shut Down, and then, in the drop-down list, click
Shut down.
3. In the Shut Down Windows dialog box, click Restart, and then click OK.
4. When you see the message Please select the operating system to start,
press F8.
5. Use the arrow keys to highlight Safe Mode with Command Prompt, and then
press ENTER.
6. If you have a dual-boot or multiple-boot system, choose the installation
that you need to access using the arrow keys, and then press ENTER.

Notes
NUM LOCK must be off before the arrow keys on the numeric keypad will
function.]]

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Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this start
mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I can use
MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a similar
BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
Edit the boot.ini or...

Use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig.exe).

Edit the boot.ini by adding these switches:

/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)

[[Safe Mode with Command Prompt (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Minimal(AlternateShell)):
This option is the same as Safe mode, except that Cmd.exe starts instead of
Windows Explorer.]]

Start | Run | Type: msconfig | Click OK |
Boot.ini tab | Select the following:
/SAFEBOOT
MINIMAL (ALTERNATESHELL)

Those two settings get you this switch >>>

/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)

/safeboot: = This switch causes Windows to start in Safe Mode.
minimal(alternateshell) = Command Prompt (cmd.exe), if...

This switch starts Windows in Safe Mode with a command prompt...

If these keys have the AlternateShell Value Data listed as cmd.exe

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot

and/or

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\SafeBoot

and/or

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot
Value Name: AlternateShell
Value Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: cmd.exe

[[Note: The /sos, /bootlog, and /noguiboot switches are not required with
any one of these settings, but the switches can help with troubleshooting.
These switches are included if you press F8 and then select one of the
modes. ]]
++++++++++++

I forgot to add...

Edit the boot.ini by adding these switches.
/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)
===

After making those boot.ini changes using msconfig, you need to click Apply
and Close.

Then click on: Restart.
===

After booting into the Safe Mode with the Command Prompt.

And when you're done using the command prompt...
Close the command prompt by typing:

exit

Hit the Enter key.

Or...

Click on the Close [X].

Or...
Start the Windows shell.

Type:

explorer

Hit the Enter key.

Or...
Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: explorer | Click
OK |

Either way, this warning will come up.

--------
Desktop Warning
Windows is running in safe mode.

This special diagnostic mode of windows enables you to fix a
problem which may be caused by your network or hardware
settings. Make sure these settings are correct in Control Panel, and
then try starting Windows again. While in safe mode, some of your
devices may not be available.

To proceed to work in safe mode, click Yes. If you prefer to use
System Restore to restore your computer to a previous state, click
No.
--------

Also, when done doing whatever, you need to open msconfig again...

Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: msconfig | Click
OK |

UNSelect: /SAFEBOOT under the boot.ini tab | Click Apply |
Under the General tab Select: Normal Startup - load all device drivers and
services | Click Apply and Close

Or...

Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: explorer | OK |

And open msconfig from Start | Run

Or Windows key + R to open the run box.


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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Please type MSCONFIG in Run box

pick BOOT.INI tab

That setting doesn't do what you and I both might expect...it simply
prevents the logo from being displayed.

-John O
 
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I needed.

-John O

Wesley Vogel said:
Edit the boot.ini or...

Use the System Configuration Utility (msconfig.exe).

Edit the boot.ini by adding these switches:

/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)

[[Safe Mode with Command Prompt (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Minimal(AlternateShell)):
This option is the same as Safe mode, except that Cmd.exe starts instead
of
Windows Explorer.]]

Start | Run | Type: msconfig | Click OK |
Boot.ini tab | Select the following:
/SAFEBOOT
MINIMAL (ALTERNATESHELL)

Those two settings get you this switch >>>

/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)

/safeboot: = This switch causes Windows to start in Safe Mode.
minimal(alternateshell) = Command Prompt (cmd.exe), if...

This switch starts Windows in Safe Mode with a command prompt...

If these keys have the AlternateShell Value Data listed as cmd.exe

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot

and/or

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\SafeBoot

and/or

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot
Value Name: AlternateShell
Value Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: cmd.exe

[[Note: The /sos, /bootlog, and /noguiboot switches are not required with
any one of these settings, but the switches can help with troubleshooting.
These switches are included if you press F8 and then select one of the
modes. ]]
++++++++++++

I forgot to add...

Edit the boot.ini by adding these switches.
/safeboot:minimal(alternateshell)
===

After making those boot.ini changes using msconfig, you need to click
Apply
and Close.

Then click on: Restart.
===

After booting into the Safe Mode with the Command Prompt.

And when you're done using the command prompt...
Close the command prompt by typing:

exit

Hit the Enter key.

Or...

Click on the Close [X].

Or...
Start the Windows shell.

Type:

explorer

Hit the Enter key.

Or...
Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: explorer | Click
OK |

Either way, this warning will come up.

--------
Desktop Warning
Windows is running in safe mode.

This special diagnostic mode of windows enables you to fix a
problem which may be caused by your network or hardware
settings. Make sure these settings are correct in Control Panel, and
then try starting Windows again. While in safe mode, some of your
devices may not be available.

To proceed to work in safe mode, click Yes. If you prefer to use
System Restore to restore your computer to a previous state, click
No.
--------

Also, when done doing whatever, you need to open msconfig again...

Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: msconfig | Click
OK |

UNSelect: /SAFEBOOT under the boot.ini tab | Click Apply |
Under the General tab Select: Normal Startup - load all device drivers and
services | Click Apply and Close

Or...

Open Task Manager...
Ctrl + Shift + Esc | File | New Task (Run...) | Type: explorer | OK
|

And open msconfig from Start | Run

Or Windows key + R to open the run box.


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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
John O said:
You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this start
mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I can use
MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a similar
BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three options above have the same path so it will take the switches for the first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
 
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your clock is
messed up.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three options
above have the same path so it will take the switches for the first. The
switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You can script it
with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
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John O said:
You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this start
mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I can use
MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a similar
BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to a
pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here for a
couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an old-fashioned
duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with Colonel Colt's
revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't worry. Mr Dobkin and Mr.
O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before they can
even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said I never had
much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was to a
pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't be
bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing to
obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw NUFFIN
of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games ended on
Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think dates
shouldn't change.


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Wesley Vogel said:
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your clock
is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three options
above have the same path so it will take the switches for the first. The
switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You can script it
with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
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Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I
can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a
similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was to a pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't be bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates. Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think dates shouldn't change.


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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
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Wesley Vogel said:
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your clock is
messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three options
above have the same path so it will take the switches for the first. The
switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You can script it
with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
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John O said:
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this start
mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I can use
MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a similar
BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite effective.
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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
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Wesley Vogel said:
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to a
pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here for a
couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an old-fashioned
duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with Colonel Colt's
revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't worry. Mr Dobkin and Mr.
O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before they can
even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said I never had
much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was to a
pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't be
bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing to
obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw NUFFIN
of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games ended on
Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think dates
shouldn't change.


--
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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your clock
is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three options
above have the same path so it will take the switches for the first. The
switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You can script it
with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I
can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for a
similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
All of our laws, except for Louisiana, are based on British common law, the
magna carta and such. Louisiana is based on Napoleonic something or other
and they have parishes and not counties like the other 49 states.

Do you have counties in Australia?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the
boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other
theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to
the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to
be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite
effective.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to a
pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here for
a couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an old-fashioned
duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with Colonel Colt's
revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't worry. Mr Dobkin and
Mr. O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before they
can even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said I
never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was to a
pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't be
bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing
to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw
NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games
ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think
dates shouldn't change.
--
------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your
clock is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three
options above have the same path so it will take the switches for the
first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You
can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
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http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I
can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for
a similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
My reply shows as deleted, did you see it? It was rather long.

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Wesley Vogel said:
All of our laws, except for Louisiana, are based on British common law, the
magna carta and such. Louisiana is based on Napoleonic something or other
and they have parishes and not counties like the other 49 states.

Do you have counties in Australia?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the
boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other
theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to
the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to
be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite
effective.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to a
pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here for
a couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an old-fashioned
duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with Colonel Colt's
revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't worry. Mr Dobkin and
Mr. O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before they
can even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said I
never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was to a
pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't be
bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing
to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw
NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games
ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think
dates shouldn't change.


--
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------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your
clock is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three
options above have the same path so it will take the switches for the
first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list). You
can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to be
able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------- --
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win 98 I
can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was hoping for
a similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
No, I didn't see it. I hate it when a long reply gets deleted. For me it's
usually something that took a while to type and of course I never saved a
copy.

It didn't make it to Google either.
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...nsubject:prompt&rnum=1&hl=en#58a6e673caca3a92

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
My reply shows as deleted, did you see it? It was rather long.

--
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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
All of our laws, except for Louisiana, are based on British common law,
the magna carta and such. Louisiana is based on Napoleonic something
or other and they have parishes and not counties like the other 49
states.

Do you have counties in Australia?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the
boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other
theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to
the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to
be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite
effective.
--
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------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to
a pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here
for a couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an
old-fashioned duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with
Colonel Colt's revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't
worry. Mr Dobkin and Mr. O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before
they can even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said
I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was
to a pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't
be bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing
to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw
NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games
ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think
dates shouldn't change.


--
---------------------------------------------------------------------- --
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your
clock is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three
options above have the same path so it will take the switches for
the first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list).
You can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to
be able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------- --
--
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win
98 I can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was
hoping for a similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
All our states have minor differences.

Land is described by which parish in which county it is. EG Sydney is is the County of Cumberland. This is not local government. This is just a way to descrbe location. Our old farm previously known as the Bondi Estate, today known as the suburbs of Bondi and Bondi Beach (Australia's most famous surburb), is in the Parish of Alexandria in the County of Cumberland. Today it's local government is known as Waverly Muncipal Council.
Note above is based on Anglician (known in USA as Epicostal Church or in England as Church of England) not Catholic (as in Louisiana) concepts.

Local government has three different names in my state. The three are the same except in name. A few local governments directly elect a mayor but one has to apply to the state government to direct elect a mayor. We generally believe in corporate governence. Local government draws sovereignty from the state government which draws theirs from the Queen.

The three are

Shires that elect councillers that elect a President.
Municipal Councils that elect alderman that elect a Mayor
City Councils that elect alderman that elect a Lord Mayor
There were county councils - they were electricity (and in rural areas also water) supply companies owned by more than one council/shire. Most of these are now corporatised and have names now like Energy Australia (that supplies electricity to half of sydney - they have grandiose plans with the Australia bit).

I live in Randwick City Council near the border with Waverly Muncipal Council (the farmhouse for the Bondi Estates were in Randwick). Randwick is bounded in the east by the Pacific Ocean/Tasman Sea, in the south by Botany Bay (Port Botany/Botany Bay is Sydney's main commercial harbour not Sydney Harbour/Port Jackson, however it is ugly compared to Sydney Harbour), in the north by Waverly Muncipal Council, in the south west by Botany City Council, and in the north west by the City Of Sydney. When I was born both Randwick and Botany were muncipal councils.

Most people would be happy to have appointed local government. As all local government is corrupt. I only support becoming a republic so long as the president is appointed not elected, ie what is now a Governor General just changes it's name to President.

Shires were meant to be rural areas, but some shires are no longer rural but stay shires for tradition. There are two shires in the Sydney area.

Cities were meant to be the main part of the capital (sydney has lots of councils). The City of Sydney is just the CBD district. Country towns with a population of more than 25 000 are also cities. However many muncipal councils changed to City Councils cause the Mayor becomes a Lord Mayor. See below for bullshit as to why.

From Australian Govt Style Manual
LOCAL GOVERNMENT

In local government there is a variety of titles: Mayor, President, Alderman, Councillor.

The lord mayors of Adelaide, Brisbane, Hobart, Melbourne, Perth and Sydney have the title

The Right Honourable attached to their offices but not to their names. There is no related

honorific for their spouses. The titles Alderman and Councillor do not change if the lord mayor

is a woman. The lord mayors of Brisbane, Hobart and Sydney are aldermen, in Adelaide and

Perth they use only the conventional title (Mr etc.); the lord mayor of Melbourne is councillor.

The lord mayors of Darwin, Newcastle and Wollongong are addressed as 'The Right

Worshipful the Lord Mayor of …'

The lady mayoress, wife of a lord mayor, is addressed as 'The Lady Mayoress of …'

The mayor of Geelong is addressed as 'The Right Worshipful the Mayor of Geelong'. Mayors

of other cities are addressed as 'His (or Her) Worship the Mayor of …' The mayoress, wife of

a mayor, is addressed as 'The Mayoress of …'

A Shire President is addressed as 'The Shire President'.

An alderman, man or woman, is addressed as 'Alderman …' Similarly, a councillor is addressed

as 'Councillor …'

I once asked Kelly what an electorate or seat was called in the US. It took about three hours for her to understand the question. Technically at the federal level they are known as the Division of Whereever (for me Division of Wentworth). You call them Congressional District No. 51. I saw a show where you number your schools (in NYC anyway). Public School No. 163 was the school on a Law and Order episode. I went to Harcourt Infants School (years K, 1, & 2), Campsie Public School (years 3 - 6), and two high schools (years 7 - 12), one public (Belmore Boys High School) and one private methodist school.

Your unions also like to number themselves too I notice. We aren't big on numbers in Australia prefering names.



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How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
No, I didn't see it. I hate it when a long reply gets deleted. For me it's
usually something that took a while to type and of course I never saved a
copy.

It didn't make it to Google either.
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...nsubject:prompt&rnum=1&hl=en#58a6e673caca3a92

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
My reply shows as deleted, did you see it? It was rather long.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
All of our laws, except for Louisiana, are based on British common law,
the magna carta and such. Louisiana is based on Napoleonic something
or other and they have parishes and not counties like the other 49
states.

Do you have counties in Australia?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the
boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other
theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to
the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to
be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite
effective.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to
a pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here
for a couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an
old-fashioned duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with
Colonel Colt's revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't
worry. Mr Dobkin and Mr. O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before
they can even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said
I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was
to a pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't
be bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing
to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw
NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games
ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think
dates shouldn't change.


--
---------------------------------------------------------------------- --
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your
clock is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three
options above have the same path so it will take the switches for
the first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list).
You can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to
be able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------- --
--
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win
98 I can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was
hoping for a similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
See if you can see above one which is third time posted.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
No, I didn't see it. I hate it when a long reply gets deleted. For me it's
usually something that took a while to type and of course I never saved a
copy.

It didn't make it to Google either.
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...nsubject:prompt&rnum=1&hl=en#58a6e673caca3a92

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
David Candy said:
My reply shows as deleted, did you see it? It was rather long.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Wesley Vogel said:
All of our laws, except for Louisiana, are based on British common law,
the magna carta and such. Louisiana is based on Napoleonic something
or other and they have parishes and not counties like the other 49
states.

Do you have counties in Australia?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
Your states quote King James in the Supreme court often as he set the
boundaries and water rights etc for those 13 rebel terrorist colonies.

While George W (no nor Bush but ashington) wasn't a terrorist the other
theatre did use terror to make the population, which was mostly loyal to
the crown, give up. The British didn't realise that terror was going to
be employed and didn't protect the population. Terror can be quite
effective.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
LOL I had to read your message twice to see the "The you below was to
a pom." Because I am pretty certain that we have not had a queen here
for a couple of hundred years. ;-)

I learned all about pommies from the movie Quigley Down Under.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102744/

My favorite lines...
Elliott Marston: [O'Flynn and Dobkin prepare Quigley for an
old-fashioned duel] I seem to remember you're not too familiar with
Colonel Colt's revolver, so this will be your first lesson. Don't
worry. Mr Dobkin and Mr. O'Flynn will ensure that it's a fair contest.
<snip>
Matthew Quigley: [Quigley shoots Dobkin, O'Flynn and Marston before
they can even aim their guns, then walks up to a dying Marston] I said
I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it.

Quigley Down Under is one of my favorite, er.............. Westerns.

Who says my education has been pedestrian?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
I've explained it a few times in the last 5 days. The you below was
to a pom.

Daylight saving was extended by one week for your crappy Empire Games
being held in the colony of Victoria. The queen (ours - Elizabeth the
Second, Queen Of Australia and Her other Realms - and yours) couldn't
be bothered to stay for longer than one day.
-----
That's correct. I'm not responsible for our state governments refusing
to obey MS. Nor am I responsible for the Empire games (of which I saw
NUFFIN of) which caused DST to be extended by a week. But the games
ended on Sunday.

I was also the first to point out problems with Sydney 2000 DST dates.
Which started in winter - that was wierd.

I could type timezone as I have resource kit installed. But I think
dates shouldn't change.


--
---------------------------------------------------------------------- --
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Has Australia gone to Daylight Saving Time now or something? Your
clock is messed up.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In David Candy <.> hunted and pecked:
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Bootlog" /fastdetect /bootlog /sos /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Safe Mode" /fastdetect /safeboot:minimal

This is my boot.ini. It matches the first path found, all three
options above have the same path so it will take the switches for
the first. The switch you want is /noguiboot (it's not in my list).
You can script it with
a/ the copy command - note boot.ini needs it attributes changed to
be able to copy over it
b/ bootcfg program - type it in help.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------- --
--
-- ------------------------ How to lose a war in Iraq
http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641
=================================================
Choose Command Prompt only from the boot menu.

You and Wesley hit on the same idea....is there a way to force this
start mode without user interaction, then clear it later? In Win
98 I can use MSDOS.SYS (bootgui=0) to do this, and in XP I was
hoping for a similar BOOT.INI setting.

-John O
 
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