Backup a workgroup

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Here's one for you!!

I am currently running 3 machines...one with XP Pro, and 2 with XP home.
This is a workgroup configuration. I have a USB external hard drive connected
to the pro machine, which is my backup destination drive. I want to backup
the xp pro machine information, which is working. But...I also want to backup
the 2 home machines' documents and settings/user folders so I can backup pst
files local settings etc. for those 2 xp home machines. from the local admin
account on the home machines, I have shared the documents and settings/user
folders. When I start the backup program from the pro machine and navigate to
network places to add the home docs and settings/users folders, it says
"access denied" Any way around this.

Thanks!
Chip
 
Here's one for you!!

I am currently running 3 machines...one with XP Pro, and 2 with XP home.
This is a workgroup configuration. I have a USB external hard drive connected
to the pro machine, which is my backup destination drive. I want to backup
the xp pro machine information, which is working. But...I also want to backup
the 2 home machines' documents and settings/user folders so I can backup pst
files local settings etc. for those 2 xp home machines. from the local admin
account on the home machines, I have shared the documents and settings/user
folders. When I start the backup program from the pro machine and navigate to
network places to add the home docs and settings/users folders, it says
"access denied" Any way around this.

Thanks!
Chip
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I'm sorry, but that's how XP Home Edition works when it's installed on
an NTFS disk partition. It blocks networked access to the Program
Files and Windows folders and to individual users' folders within
Documents and Settings.

You can re-install XP Home on a FAT or FAT32 disk partition, which
would allow networked access to those folders. However, that would
lose the benefits of NTFS, which is more reliable and efficient and
can store larger files. You'd also need to re-install all of your
applications.

Here are two possible solutions for XP Home Edition on an NTFS disk
partition. They're un-supported, un-documented, and un-tested by
Microsoft, and there's no guarantee that they'll work. If you want to
try them, at your own risk, run System Restore to create a restore
point first:

1. Start Windows XP in "Safe Mode with Networking", share the desired
folder(s), set the permissions, and reboot normally.

or:

2. Follow the procedure shown here:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_home_sectab.htm
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Here's one for you!!

I am currently running 3 machines...one with XP Pro, and 2 with XP home.
This is a workgroup configuration. I have a USB external hard drive connected
to the pro machine, which is my backup destination drive. I want to backup
the xp pro machine information, which is working. But...I also want to backup
the 2 home machines' documents and settings/user folders so I can backup pst
files local settings etc. for those 2 xp home machines. from the local admin
account on the home machines, I have shared the documents and settings/user
folders. When I start the backup program from the pro machine and navigate to
network places to add the home docs and settings/users folders, it says
"access denied" Any way around this.

Thanks!
Chip
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Chip,

There are several possible causes for "access denied".

A firewall problem is very common.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>

Could be a browser conflict.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>

Could be file sharing setup - when you mix XP Home and XP Pro, this happens.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>

If no help yet, let's diagnose the problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
 
Thanks,
I have been doing some more research and found the same thing. I'll just
have the individual users shoot their own backups to the pro machine.

Thanks!!
 
Chip said:
Here's one for you!!

I am currently running 3 machines...one with XP Pro, and 2 with XP home.
This is a workgroup configuration. I have a USB external hard drive
connected
to the pro machine, which is my backup destination drive. I want to backup
the xp pro machine information, which is working. But...I also want to
backup
the 2 home machines' documents and settings/user folders so I can backup
pst
files local settings etc. for those 2 xp home machines. from the local
admin
account on the home machines, I have shared the documents and
settings/user
folders. When I start the backup program from the pro machine and navigate
to
network places to add the home docs and settings/users folders, it says
"access denied" Any way around this.

Thanks!
Chip
Click to expand...


There's a way to change the default security
settings without going to safe mode in XP-Home.

This does exactly the same thing you would need to do in
safe mode, but saves the chore of booting to safe mode.


************* IMPORTANT*************

Notice that this will make the user's profile directory visible to
ANYONE on the network, either read-only, or Read-Write,
depending on the option you choose. This is because all incoming
connections use the Guest account, which has a blank password by
default. This is a security issue.
If you want to add an element of security over and above this,
then consider passwording the Guest account.

**************************************

If you still want to do this, then follow along with this commented
screen-dump.
We will go to a command prompt window, and use the CACLS command.
So start up a commad prompt window and follow along...

In this example, I'm making my profile directory
(C:\Docs+Setts\Ron ) accessible across the network:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

# First, notice that the command prompt window has opened
# with the profile directory I wish to edit as my current working
# directory ( C:\Docs+Sets\Ron ). I'm going to move up one level,
# to C:\Docs+Sets so the Ron directory is visible to me.

C:\Documents and Settings\Ron>cd ..

# Can I see the directory I want to edit?
# Let's try the DIR command and see...

C:\Documents and Settings>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is C4C5-AAB4

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings

12/06/2005 14:06 <DIR> .
12/06/2005 14:06 <DIR> ..
12/06/2005 13:45 <DIR> All Users
12/06/2005 14:06 <DIR> Ron
0 File(s) 0 bytes
4 Dir(s) 15,526,223,872 bytes free

# Ah, yes, there it is.
# Let's look at the existing permissions:

C:\Documents and Settings>cacls ron
C:\Documents and Settings\Ron BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
XP-HOME-VPC\Ron:(OI)(CI)F
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F

# Now, add the Everyone group, which includes Guest:
# the last 'C' means I'm granting read/write access to everyone
# including the Guest account across the network.
# Replace the 'C' with 'R' for read-only ( eg backing up ).

C:\Documents and Settings>cacls ron /E /G Everyone:C
processed dir: C:\Documents and Settings\Ron

#Now, lets look at the permissions again:

C:\Documents and Settings>cacls ron
C:\Documents and Settings\Ron BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
XP-HOME-VPC\Ron:(OI)(CI)F
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
Everyone:(OI)(CI)C

# Now the folder is accessible across the network.
# All the contents of the folder are too, because they
# inherit the parent folder's permissions.

# This works with the Program Files folder too.

C:\Documents and Settings>cd ..
C:\>cacls "program files" /E /G Everyone:C
processed dir: C:\Program Files
C:\>cacls "program files"
C:\Program Files BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)F
Everyone:(OI)(CI)C
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
BUILTIN\Users:(OI)(CI)R

# This is now accessible across the network too.
 
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