AV built in to SP2 ? first a Firewall Question

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I have recently installed a Belkin wireless router to my laptop. A friend
says I should disable my CA 'EZtrust' FW, the CD of which was mailed to me
recently by Microsoft along with a CD of updates for my WIN98 PC. Their
logic is that the router had a BI hardware firewall and the EZ Trust is
redundant.
I DID disable the EZT FW briefly and did a portscan (hackerwatch.org) which
showed:

"PORT 80 HTTP insecure and open" whereas with the EZT FW running, I
got "all ports invisible to outside world"

I restarted EZT FW after that.

Another question..I understand that SP2 contains a MS AV program in there
somewhere. I'm running the EZT AV which seems to be working fine..has
caught some "incoming". Should I disable the EZT AV and rely on the SP2
AV..if so, where can I find it and how do I know its running (my EZT shows
the AV and FW icons in the tray).
 
I have recently installed a Belkin wireless router to my laptop. A friend
says I should disable my CA 'EZtrust' FW, the CD of which was mailed to me
recently by Microsoft along with a CD of updates for my WIN98 PC. Their
logic is that the router had a BI hardware firewall and the EZ Trust is
redundant.
I DID disable the EZT FW briefly and did a portscan (hackerwatch.org) which
showed:

"PORT 80 HTTP insecure and open" whereas with the EZT FW running, I
got "all ports invisible to outside world"
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check out http://www.grc.com and then click on shields up. What does
it say??...if you show ports open, you better engage your firewall.

Another question..I understand that SP2 contains a MS AV program in there
somewhere.
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Don't believe that is true....it contains a program to monitor your AV
software (i.e. to keep it up to date, but there aren't any AV
solutions in the SP2 or XP product.

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Rudy said:
I have recently installed a Belkin wireless router to my laptop. A friend
says I should disable my CA 'EZtrust' FW, the CD of which was mailed to me
recently by Microsoft along with a CD of updates for my WIN98 PC. Their
logic is that the router had a BI hardware firewall and the EZ Trust is
redundant.
I DID disable the EZT FW briefly and did a portscan (hackerwatch.org) which
showed:

"PORT 80 HTTP insecure and open" whereas with the EZT FW running, I
got "all ports invisible to outside world"

I restarted EZT FW after that.

Another question..I understand that SP2 contains a MS AV program in there
somewhere. I'm running the EZT AV which seems to be working fine..has
caught some "incoming". Should I disable the EZT AV and rely on the SP2
AV..if so, where can I find it and how do I know its running (my EZT shows
the AV and FW icons in the tray).
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I think someone is confusing you about the EZT AV and FW disk, that came
with the MS Update disk you got. MS doesn't have an AV, and I would
recommend using CA's programs as you have been.

I got those disks too, and the CA programs helped me safely set up my
new machine on cable recently. :)
bj
 
Don't believe that is true....it contains a program to monitor your AV
software (i.e. to keep it up to date, but there aren't any AV
solutions in the SP2 or XP product.
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OK, thanks, will keep running CA EZT AV & FW
 
I think someone is confusing you about the EZT AV and FW disk, that came
with the MS Update disk you got. MS doesn't have an AV, and I would
recommend using CA's programs as you have been.

I got those disks too, and the CA programs helped me safely set up my new
machine on cable recently. :)
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Yes, "FAN", I'll continue to run the CA EZT set, thanks
 
There is a lot of confusion on this matter. If you have an AMD64 processor,
SP2 will add (data execution Prevention that will prevent certain classes of
worms such as SASSER and BLASTER from executing in memory space and causing
disruption of system processes. This is billed as "Enhanced Virus
Protection", but again, it requires and AMD64 processor and it only protects
against a very specific type of threat. It does not replace an Antivirus
program, even if you are lucky enough to have an AMD64 processor (as I do).

Bobby
 
There is a lot of confusion on this matter. If you have an AMD64
processor, SP2 will add (data execution Prevention that will prevent
certain classes of worms such as SASSER and BLASTER from executing in
memory space and causing disruption of system processes. This is billed
as "Enhanced Virus Protection", but again, it requires and AMD64 processor
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Nope, its an Intel P4
 
Then SP2 has nothing to offer you in the way of virus protection.
Bobby
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Wrong.
SP2 still uses a 'software' DEP regardless of what type of CPU you have.
Although not as good as the hard coded version I believe it can still
protect Windows from all sorts of instability caused by viruses and spyware.
In other words it makes it harder for instability to 'blue screen' or
'infinite loop' Windows XP.
 
That offers very limited protection to equate that with real anti-virus
protection is very misleading at best, totally irresponsible at worst.

Testy
 
The "software" DEP does not protect a user against anything at all. It is
almost as useless as the firewall it installs. I have an AMD 64 and use the
hardware DEP, but permanently disabled the lame firewall. The software DEP
will not stop latter variants of SASSER, and will still allow buffer
overflows/underruns, so it is pretty much useless.

Bobby
 
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