http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts selling
boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
DP said:http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
Alias said:The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what they
think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista will have
a "high deployment".
Alias
Mike said:Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then
your statement.
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however
the role of an analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on
available data about the future movement; and the entire business world
uses trend analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc.
So the article and its conclusions are still valid
Alias said:Mike said:Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
Richard Urban said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Alias said:Mike said:DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
Richard said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
Sasha said:Agreed, I am tired of people trying to through linux out there on everyone
and calling Vista a crappy OS.
Not flaming... but this is my opinion.
Windows XP had the same reception at its launch, yet it is the most popular
OS around. Vista is more powerful than XP and it will be the most popular OS
around too.
So it won't last.
Richard Urban said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Alias said:Mike Brannigan wrote:
DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
Richard Urban said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Alias said:Mike said:DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
CB said:Short but sweet.
C.B.
Richard Urban said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Alias said:Mike Brannigan wrote:
DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
Alias said:Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
My analysis is
was only released to make money.
I also think that people will get sick and tired of being accused of being
a thief over and over and over again.
A few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Richard said:But when the messenger is so worthy of insult?????????????
Justin said:Alias said:Yes.
Then read again. You clearly misunderstood. It seems you never got
past the first paragraph or maybe you didn't understand the structure of
the article?
MS Claim
Data
Discuss Data
Discuss Data
Discuss Data
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of
these figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system
that we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen
Boettcher, general manager of Windows client product management for
Microsoft. "We did think it would be faster [than previous versions of
Windows]. It's still early, but we feel good and on track."
This is where you are pointed out as a troll. You gave a clear
"generalized" statement:
"The "analysts" work for MS"
You even put quotes around the word analysts. See the "s" on the end of
that word? You try to make readers believe that the ENTIRE article is
derived from MS employees of which you are 100% wrong, as Mike pointed out.
You only have ONE quote that was from MS. Therefore the analysts DO NOT
work for MS. Plus, the initial statement from MS was not from an
analyst it was from a general manager.
This is a perfect example of how you are incapable of comprehending more
then one thing at a time. You read ONE THING you do not like and fixate
on it. Then, you never let it go as you will clearly prove with
following replies.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
They used those words appropriately and I agree, their analyst is leaps
and bounds better then your banter.
My analysis is
Hahaha...good one!
was only released to make money.
Um...did you just now figure out that people are in business to make
money? Wow, how old are you again? You should have figured that one out
a LONG time ago.
I also think that people will get sick and tired of being accused of
being a thief over and over and over again.
Once again, you speak of nonsense. Registering your purchased product
is not a negative action nor is MS calling anyone a thief. It's ok
though, we all understand that this is all you have left to hang on to.
The average user will never have to call MS.
The average user will never know what activation is.
These are special circumstances seen by a very small percentage of people.
When are you going to figure that out?
A few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think
twice about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their
ineffective anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
I hope not! You'll note that this new MAJOR release of their OS costs
the SAME as XP.
False.
Usually product gets MORE expensive over time. Because
they are able to secure their product they are able to keep costs down.
Yes alias, Ultimate is NOT a direct upgrade from anything (it doesn't
count, it's considered MORE).
Alias said:Sasha said:Agreed, I am tired of people trying to through linux out there on everyone
and calling Vista a crappy OS.
When people called Windows Me a "crappy OS", they were right.
Not flaming... but this is my opinion.
Being as you wrote the message, of course it's your opinion, whether
it's a flaming opinion or not.
Windows XP had the same reception at its launch, yet it is the most popular
OS around. Vista is more powerful than XP and it will be the most popular OS
around too.
Not due to quality but due to MS' strong arm marketing tactics.
Linux is powerful only as a server, and sucks as anything else.So it won't last.
Um, Unix has been around much longer than Windows. Thanks to Microsoft's
WPA, WGA, WGA/N, SPP, and DRM, Linux will hit the big time. MANY people
are making the switch. This didn't happen back before Microsoft
instituted their you are a thief until you prove your innocence over and
over and over again.
AliasRichard Urban said:YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Mike Brannigan wrote:
DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias
Sasha said:Oh no they weren't, it took me about 9 months to find work arounds to all the
problems I had. Once I did that well, it was quite stable. It only gave me a
blue screen of death (BSOD) once probably, every other month. I used it for
about 2 years, until Windows XP SP1 came out.
Alias said:When people called Windows Me a "crappy OS", they were right.Sasha said:Agreed, I am tired of people trying to through linux out there on everyone
and calling Vista a crappy OS.
Being as you wrote the message, of course it's your opinion, whetherNot flaming... but this is my opinion.
it's a flaming opinion or not.
Not due to quality but due to MS' strong arm marketing tactics.Windows XP had the same reception at its launch, yet it is the most popular
OS around. Vista is more powerful than XP and it will be the most popular OS
around too.
Linux is powerful only as a server, and sucks as anything else.Um, Unix has been around much longer than Windows. Thanks to Microsoft'sSo it won't last.
WPA, WGA, WGA/N, SPP, and DRM, Linux will hit the big time. MANY people
are making the switch. This didn't happen back before Microsoft
instituted their you are a thief until you prove your innocence over and
over and over again.
Alias:
YOUR analysis means nothing.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Mike Brannigan wrote:
DP wrote:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199400133
But I'm sure this will taper off once Michael Dell finally starts
selling boxes with Ubuntooooo on them.
The "analysts" work for MS and they are giving their opinion of what
they think will happen in the future so there is no proof that Vista
will have a "high deployment".
Alias
Did you read the article?
Yes.
The analysts cited are Gartner, IDC and InformationWeek - none of these
figures were paid for my Microsoft and are independent work.
From the article:
"We really see Windows Vista as the fastest-deployed operating system that
we've ever released in the business space," says Shanen Boettcher, general
manager of Windows client product management for Microsoft. "We did think
it would be faster [than previous versions of Windows]. It's still early,
but we feel good and on track."
Their expert analysis of the trends is probably slightly better then your
statement.
Yeah, that's why they say "seem" and "appear to"?
Yes a trend does not guarantee continued sales however the role of an
analyst is just that to make expert judgments based on available data
about the future movement; and the entire business world uses trend
analysis and modeling to make predictions about growth etc. So the
article and its conclusions are still valid
Time will tell. My analysis is that Vista is the Windows Me of NT and was
only released to make money. I also think that people will get sick and
tired of being accused of being a thief over and over and over again. A
few reduced functionalities will be enough to make people think twice
about Vista. The question is will MS think twice about their ineffective
anti piracy programs when they release Vienna.
Alias