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I am the administrator on my home pc. I have a number of other computers
connected on a peer to peer network. However, on my pc, I am unable to see
anyother computers in the workgroup. When I select the option, I get a
message saying that I do not have the appropiate permission. Can someone
tell e why this is??
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:01 -0800, Ed Murphy <Ed
I am the administrator on my home pc. I have a number of other computers
connected on a peer to peer network. However, on my pc, I am unable to see
anyother computers in the workgroup. When I select the option, I get a
message saying that I do not have the appropiate permission. Can someone
tell e why this is??

Ed,

You probably have a browser issue (I'm not talking about Internet Explorer
here). For 3 - 6 computers on the LAN, you need a maximum of 2 computers
running as browsers (the recommendation is one browser for every 6 computers),
and all the computers on the LAN have to agree which computer is the master
browser.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Identify the two computers that stay online the most, and designate them the
browsers.

Make sure the browser service is running on the browser computers. Control
Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and
the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable
the browser on the other computers.

After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power all computers off to reset
the browser settings on each. Then power them all on again.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
 
Chuck,
Cheer mate for the reply. I am unable to download from either the to
locations, get a message saying invalid or corrupt. Also, as I am not that
technical can youdirect me to a support line that would be able to talk me
through this.

Cheers
Ed
 
Chuck, the actual message displayed is "workgroupname" is not accessible.
You might not have permission to use this network resource, contact the
adninistrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The
list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

Does this information help.

I have now been able to download the file and have run as specified, this
has changed nothing, I have also followed all instructions give to me in your
last post.
I only have 3 computers connected to this network, does that change the
support information you provided.

Cheers
Ed
 
Chuck, the actual message displayed is "workgroupname" is not accessible.
You might not have permission to use this network resource, contact the
adninistrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The
list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

Does this information help.

I have now been able to download the file and have run as specified, this
has changed nothing, I have also followed all instructions give to me in your
last post.
I only have 3 computers connected to this network, does that change the
support information you provided.

Ed,

Did you run Browstat on each computer? Did each identify the same master
browser?

Are all computers on the same workgroup?

With a total of 3 computers, the recommendation is to have 2 running as
browsers. That way, if the current master browser computer is to go offline,
the backup browser can take over as the new master browser.

The browser issue was the most likely scenario per your original problem
description. There are, however, other possibilities.

Please continue by providing ipconfig information for each computer, and we'll
do some further analysis, and see where the problem lies.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

Also, check authentication / authorisation. This varies greatly, depending upon
whether you have XP Home, XP Pro, a mixture, or computers with other OSs.

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS properly set on each computer.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Ensure
that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run - "control
userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without entering a
new password.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list. Look at "Access this computer
from the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a
very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
 
I just bought a new computer and had this same issue getting it to talk to my
old laptop (wireless). Turns out the issue was the Norton third-party
firewall preinstalled on the PC. In order to fix it, on the Personal Firewall
Status & Settings page, click on Personal Firewall, then click on
"Configure". This will take you to a new screen where you can click on the
Networking tab. At the bottom is a button to Add computers to your Trusted
Zone. Once you are in this screen, click on Network Address.

Nexy, go to your second PC, click on the network connection icon in your
system tray, then click on the Support tab. Enter the IP address and Subnet
Mask numbers you see there into the fields back on the new PC and click OK.
(This all sounds very complicated at first, but if you've been working on
this for a while like I was, these menus are probably very familiar by now!)

If you have Norton Internet Security or Personal Firewall on your other
computers, you should complete the process vice versa. After that, your
workgroup should show up. Good luck!
 

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