Russ Valentine said:I don't understand your request. Outlook is an email program. What other type
of addresses should its address book contain and for what purpose?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:2 queries;
How can I make the address book include all contacts entries, not just those
with email addresses?
Failing that, is there a quick way to enter a dummy email address into the
empty fields?
rs
TCEBob said:I hasten to disagree. Outlook is a PIM. I have lots of info in Contacts
that does not pertain to email; in fact, for email, Outlook Express is
superior -- for me as a single user, not a corporation.
Under a previous outlook (2000?) my address book did indeed contain all
entries from the Contacts. That list ported into 2003. But, with the
passing of time, enough data were changed to warrant rebuilding the
address book. Now the philosophy seems to have changed to align with
yours. I can only suppose that I am expecting different facilities from
the program than it will deliver and that it is directed toward a market
which wants it.
Still, I did ask a question. Ok, two.
Do you suppose that there are answers, particularly to Q2?
rs
Russ Valentine said:I don't understand your request. Outlook is an email program. What other
type of addresses should its address book contain and for what purpose?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:2 queries;
How can I make the address book include all contacts entries, not just
those with email addresses?
Failing that, is there a quick way to enter a dummy email address into
the empty fields?
rs
Russ Valentine said:Nothing has changed in the Outlook Address Book in Outlook 2003. You
misunderstand the purpose of the Outlook Address Book. Its purpose is and
always has been to present a list of all your electronic addresses when you
send a message. Period. In fact there is no data whatsoever in the Outlook
Address Book. It merely displays the electronic addresses contained in your
Contacts Folder. That is the only data you need when you are sending an
electronic message.
All your Contact Data resides in your Contacts Folder, including all the other
data to which you refer and is easily accessible there. My question remains.
What do you need to do that you can't? If you need to send a letter or create
an envelope in Word, all your Contact data will appear when you invoke the
address book from Word. But the address book in Outlook has no use for that
information.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:I hasten to disagree. Outlook is a PIM. I have lots of info in Contacts that
does not pertain to email; in fact, for email, Outlook Express is superior --
for me as a single user, not a corporation.
Under a previous outlook (2000?) my address book did indeed contain all
entries from the Contacts. That list ported into 2003. But, with the passing
of time, enough data were changed to warrant rebuilding the address book. Now
the philosophy seems to have changed to align with yours. I can only suppose
that I am expecting different facilities from the program than it will
deliver and that it is directed toward a market which wants it.
Still, I did ask a question. Ok, two.
Do you suppose that there are answers, particularly to Q2?
rs
Russ Valentine said:I don't understand your request. Outlook is an email program. What other type
of addresses should its address book contain and for what purpose?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"TCEBob" <tcebobatgwidotnet> wrote in message
2 queries;
How can I make the address book include all contacts entries, not just
those with email addresses?
Failing that, is there a quick way to enter a dummy email address into the
empty fields?
rs
TCEBob said:Ok, Russ, you win.
But, just for shins and grits, how would one enter global data into a
subset of contacts?
rs
Russ Valentine said:Nothing has changed in the Outlook Address Book in Outlook 2003. You
misunderstand the purpose of the Outlook Address Book. Its purpose is and
always has been to present a list of all your electronic addresses when
you send a message. Period. In fact there is no data whatsoever in the
Outlook Address Book. It merely displays the electronic addresses
contained in your Contacts Folder. That is the only data you need when
you are sending an electronic message.
All your Contact Data resides in your Contacts Folder, including all the
other data to which you refer and is easily accessible there. My question
remains. What do you need to do that you can't? If you need to send a
letter or create an envelope in Word, all your Contact data will appear
when you invoke the address book from Word. But the address book in
Outlook has no use for that information.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:I hasten to disagree. Outlook is a PIM. I have lots of info in Contacts
that does not pertain to email; in fact, for email, Outlook Express is
superior -- for me as a single user, not a corporation.
Under a previous outlook (2000?) my address book did indeed contain all
entries from the Contacts. That list ported into 2003. But, with the
passing of time, enough data were changed to warrant rebuilding the
address book. Now the philosophy seems to have changed to align with
yours. I can only suppose that I am expecting different facilities from
the program than it will deliver and that it is directed toward a market
which wants it.
Still, I did ask a question. Ok, two.
Do you suppose that there are answers, particularly to Q2?
rs
I don't understand your request. Outlook is an email program. What other
type of addresses should its address book contain and for what purpose?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"TCEBob" <tcebobatgwidotnet> wrote in message
2 queries;
How can I make the address book include all contacts entries, not just
those with email addresses?
Failing that, is there a quick way to enter a dummy email address into
the empty fields?
rs
Russ Valentine said:I don't understand what you needed "dummy addresses" for.
I don't understand what the WAB has to do with any of this. Outlook has
nothing to do with the WAB.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Russ, thanks much for the reference. I went ahead and tried to change the
E-mail field by drag and drop but it seems that doesn't work, though it did
for other fields. But Excel helped and I got dummy addresses in all the blank
fields. Now my Contacts address book has all -- but I can't seem to use those
data to set up a WAB file. I will keep looking; there must be a way.
rs
TCEBob said:Well if you look back to the original question, what I sought was an
address book listing of all contacts, not just those with email addys. You
convinced me that that was, somehow, immoral and that I would be ejected
from nerddom if I continued. Despite your sound advice I forged ahead
anyway -- mostly to see if the challenge could be met. Proudly I announce:
I have succeeded! The last snag was eliminated when I imported a
comma-delimited file to the OE address book.
I apologize for my first crude assumption that there is a universal
address book. WAB is the address book used by OE.
Thanks for your time and assistance on this more-or-less trivial pursuit.
Bob Shiffman
Russ Valentine said:I don't understand what you needed "dummy addresses" for.
I don't understand what the WAB has to do with any of this. Outlook has
nothing to do with the WAB.
------
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Russ, thanks much for the reference. I went ahead and tried to change
the E-mail field by drag and drop but it seems that doesn't work, though
it did for other fields. But Excel helped and I got dummy addresses in
all the blank fields. Now my Contacts address book has all -- but I
can't seem to use those data to set up a WAB file. I will keep looking;
there must be a way.
rs
Russ Valentine said:I see. I can offer some better solutions if you like.
On the first issue, the reason the address book in Outlook contains only
electronic addresses is that electronic addresses are the only ones you would
need in Outlook. You can't create envelopes or other documents that need
mailing addresses in Outlook, you can only send electronic messages. On the
other hand you would need mailing addresses in Word since that is where you
create paper documents. When you open the address book in Word, it will indeed
contain all your Outlook Contacts. That's why there is no need to create
"dummy" email addresses in Outlook. While you can get these Contacts to appear
in the Outlook Address Book, you can't use them for anything. Whenever you
need to access your Contacts in Outlook for information other than electronic
addresses, use the Contacts Folder not the address book. There was logic to
how Outlook was designed.
On the second, if you want to share your Outlook Contacts with the Windows
Address Book and keep it synchronized, there is a simply registry hack that
will accomplish that. It is safer than trying to export data:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:Well if you look back to the original question, what I sought was an address
book listing of all contacts, not just those with email addys. You convinced
me that that was, somehow, immoral and that I would be ejected from nerddom
if I continued. Despite your sound advice I forged ahead anyway -- mostly to
see if the challenge could be met. Proudly I announce: I have succeeded! The
last snag was eliminated when I imported a comma-delimited file to the OE
address book.
I apologize for my first crude assumption that there is a universal address
book. WAB is the address book used by OE.
Thanks for your time and assistance on this more-or-less trivial pursuit.
Bob Shiffman
Russ Valentine said:I don't understand what you needed "dummy addresses" for.
I don't understand what the WAB has to do with any of this. Outlook has
nothing to do with the WAB.
------
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob wrote:
Russ, thanks much for the reference. I went ahead and tried to change the
E-mail field by drag and drop but it seems that doesn't work, though it did
for other fields. But Excel helped and I got dummy addresses in all the
blank fields. Now my Contacts address book has all -- but I can't seem to
use those data to set up a WAB file. I will keep looking; there must be a
way.
rs
TCEBob said:You da man. There are 2 things to do with an expanded address book in OE:
Look up a contact without invoking 38 meg of Outlook and use the dialer.
Not real persuasive, huh?
As to mailing addresses, I lost that battle a while ago. I know, I know,
Outlook isn't a word processor. But at least a slicker interface with Word
would be nice.
rs
Russ Valentine said:I see. I can offer some better solutions if you like.
On the first issue, the reason the address book in Outlook contains only
electronic addresses is that electronic addresses are the only ones you
would need in Outlook. You can't create envelopes or other documents that
need mailing addresses in Outlook, you can only send electronic messages.
On the other hand you would need mailing addresses in Word since that is
where you create paper documents. When you open the address book in Word,
it will indeed contain all your Outlook Contacts. That's why there is no
need to create "dummy" email addresses in Outlook. While you can get
these Contacts to appear in the Outlook Address Book, you can't use them
for anything. Whenever you need to access your Contacts in Outlook for
information other than electronic addresses, use the Contacts Folder not
the address book. There was logic to how Outlook was designed.
On the second, if you want to share your Outlook Contacts with the
Windows Address Book and keep it synchronized, there is a simply registry
hack that will accomplish that. It is safer than trying to export data:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob said:Well if you look back to the original question, what I sought was an
address book listing of all contacts, not just those with email addys.
You convinced me that that was, somehow, immoral and that I would be
ejected from nerddom if I continued. Despite your sound advice I forged
ahead anyway -- mostly to see if the challenge could be met. Proudly I
announce: I have succeeded! The last snag was eliminated when I imported
a comma-delimited file to the OE address book.
I apologize for my first crude assumption that there is a universal
address book. WAB is the address book used by OE.
Thanks for your time and assistance on this more-or-less trivial
pursuit.
Bob Shiffman
I don't understand what you needed "dummy addresses" for.
I don't understand what the WAB has to do with any of this. Outlook has
nothing to do with the WAB.
------
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
TCEBob wrote:
Russ, thanks much for the reference. I went ahead and tried to change
the E-mail field by drag and drop but it seems that doesn't work,
though it did for other fields. But Excel helped and I got dummy
addresses in all the blank fields. Now my Contacts address book has
all -- but I can't seem to use those data to set up a WAB file. I will
keep looking; there must be a way.
rs