2 offices on computer

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I share a computer.

It has a newer version but I don't like the ribbon bar.

Can I put on my Office 2000 and use it also ?
 
Andy said:
I share a computer.

It has a newer version but I don't like the ribbon bar.

Can I put on my Office 2000 and use it also ?

Yes. I have both 2003 and 2010 working on my 7/32 laptop.
2010 is on c: and 2003 on d:
The problem is that you will have to select default open with's
for doc, docx, etc. The other person may not be happy.
How good are you at editing the registy and hacking dll's?
It may be easier to install Classic Office Menu on the
unknown new version.
 
Yes. I have both 2003 and 2010 working on my 7/32 laptop.

2010 is on c: and 2003 on d:

The problem is that you will have to select default open with's

for doc, docx, etc. The other person may not be happy.

How good are you at editing the registy and hacking dll's?

It may be easier to install Classic Office Menu on the

unknown new version.

I am pretty good at registry modifications.

I do assembly programming, so the dll mods would be a good project.

I had problems with Office 2000 and Office 2010.

They don't play together nice.

I would appreciate any help.

Installing Classic Office Menu on the new version would be good.

Thanks.
 
Andy said:
I am pretty good at registry modifications.

I do assembly programming, so the dll mods would be a good project.

I had problems with Office 2000 and Office 2010.

They don't play together nice.

I would appreciate any help.

Installing Classic Office Menu on the new version would be good.

Thanks.

There can be only one default open.
The other person would have to "open with".
IMO, your best bet is Classic Office Menu.
I have that on 2010. Its almost but not quite like 2000/3.
 
In message <[email protected]>, Paul in Houston TX
There can be only one default open.

There can be no default open; however, to keep it that way you'd both
have to agree never to tick "always open files of this type with".

(Or, could this be done by having two user logins on the computer - or,
is the default open something that applies across all users?)
The other person would have to "open with".
IMO, your best bet is Classic Office Menu.
I have that on 2010. Its almost but not quite like 2000/3.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-add-ins-for-users-who-hate-the-office-ribbon/1152
looks like a good place to get it (and alternatives).
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David H. Lipman said:
Better yet. Unless one needs Outlook, use LibreOffice or
Apache OpenOffice instead. No "need" for two versions of
MS Office.
I had a situation where two of my personnel were database
managers. Originally the databases were in Access 2003
and they needed to go to Access 2007.

As long as the newer version of MS Office is installed,
you can install an older version. There were no
conflicts as they are installed in their own folders
under C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\ such as...
..\office9 (MS Office 2000)
..\office10 (MS Office XP/MS Office 2002)
..\office11 (MS Office 2003)
..\office12 (MS Office 2007)
..\Office13 (MS Office 2010)
..\Office14 (MS Office 2010)
..\Office15 (MS Office 2013)

However if you do have two versions of the Office Suite
and you run a program (Excel, Word, Access, etc) then it
setups that version as the default. If you then run the
second version of a program (Excel, Word, Access, etc) it
runs a mini installation setup and then it setups that
version as the default.

Ahh, I KNEW there was something like that; just couldn't remember. I ran
into it way back when I was gettiing into web sites: Word97 did well and
worked just fine beside Ofice 2002 and I was able to keep doing websites
with it. The automatic "install" procedure was short though; a minor
detail, really.
I'll bet it's not insignificant with these later versions, though.

I currently use LibreOffice but I keep Word around; it just does some things
better than Libre and a couple things Libre or OpenOffice can't.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
I share a computer.

It has a newer version but I don't like the ribbon bar.

Can I put on my Office 2000 and use it also ?

I currently have 5 versions of MS Office installed on this machine
(Dell Precision M90 with XP Pro SP3), and all work/live/play together
very well. The trick is in how you set your folders up: each version
should be installed in its own folder. This should be done *before* the
first version is installed. (I currently have v8 to v12 installed here,
versions 11/12 on all other machines) Note that MS started giving us
the option of keeping previous versions (all or part) as of v11 by
putting the newer version in its own folder. Thus, installing multiple
versions of the earlier releases need to be put in their own folders
under Program Files\Microsoft Office\. Here's what my explorer shows...

Program Files
Microsoft Office
Office
Office9
Office10
Office11
Office12
Office14
Office2010

...where the last 2 folders are not yet used because I haven't decided
whether to put 2010 on this machine for x32 use OR on my Win7 Pro
machine for x64 use.

There are some caveats to doing this, though: whenever auto-update does
its thing it will leave whatever version it last updated as the default
version. I was using a .bat file to reset this to v10 or v11 whenever
Update left v12 as the default. I since gave up trying to manage this
and resorted to opening files in whatever version I wanted to use. To
facilitate this better I replaced the Office Shortcut Toolbar with an
alternative one (FreeBar) that works (even better, IMO) whether office
is installed or not. (IOW, it's Windows stand-alone)

The only drawback is that when opening more than 1 instance/version you
get the "PERSONAL.XLS in use" alert. Otherwise, I haven't experienced
any shortfalls.

HTH

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I currently have 5 versions of MS Office installed on this machine

(Dell Precision M90 with XP Pro SP3), and all work/live/play together

very well. The trick is in how you set your folders up: each version

should be installed in its own folder. This should be done *before* the

first version is installed. (I currently have v8 to v12 installed here,

versions 11/12 on all other machines) Note that MS started giving us

the option of keeping previous versions (all or part) as of v11 by

putting the newer version in its own folder. Thus, installing multiple

versions of the earlier releases need to be put in their own folders

under Program Files\Microsoft Office\. Here's what my explorer shows...



Program Files

Microsoft Office

Office

Office9

Office10

Office11

Office12

Office14

Office2010



..where the last 2 folders are not yet used because I haven't decided

whether to put 2010 on this machine for x32 use OR on my Win7 Pro

machine for x64 use.



There are some caveats to doing this, though: whenever auto-update does

its thing it will leave whatever version it last updated as the default

version. I was using a .bat file to reset this to v10 or v11 whenever

Update left v12 as the default. I since gave up trying to manage this

and resorted to opening files in whatever version I wanted to use. To

facilitate this better I replaced the Office Shortcut Toolbar with an

alternative one (FreeBar) that works (even better, IMO) whether office

is installed or not. (IOW, it's Windows stand-alone)



The only drawback is that when opening more than 1 instance/version you

get the "PERSONAL.XLS in use" alert. Otherwise, I haven't experienced

any shortfalls.



HTH



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I really appreciate the info.

I will consider what you posted.

Office 2000 is installed on d: drive while Office 2010 is on the root drive.

----------------------------------------------------------

I was given a "registry fix" for my problem by an ex MVP.

I had to undo it when winword started asking if I wanted to register Office 2000. :-)

Here is my response.

But it is a fact that the reg entry, which I did exactly according to your post, did not fix the problem.

I read the article and it mentions that the older version should be installed first.

I have other options I am considering, but a uninstall and reinstall are not
under consideration.

I feel that Winword.exe Version 14.0.6024.1000 is an example of disregard
for the owners of previous versions of Winword. I don't think they should have to fix Microsoft's mistakes.

I write software and newer versions don't cripple older versions.

Best regards,
Andy
 
Andy brought next idea :
I really appreciate the info.

I will consider what you posted.

Office 2000 is installed on d: drive while Office 2010 is on the root drive.

----------------------------------------------------------

I was given a "registry fix" for my problem by an ex MVP.

I had to undo it when winword started asking if I wanted to register Office
2000. :-)

This is a hack workaround, NOT a fix!
I feel that Winword.exe Version 14.0.6024.1000 is an example of disregard
for the owners of previous versions of Winword. I don't think they
should have to fix Microsoft's mistakes.

Well, your problem might very well lie with Winword. Does it persist
for the other MSO apps? (Note that I primarily use Excel because that's
my dev platform. I only use word to open template samples people send
to have Excel templates made.)
I write software and newer versions don't cripple older versions

I do also (VB6/VBA) and so why so many versions are installed on my dev
machine. I also ran into issues early on and since I found the answer
of using separate folders I've been problem free. I know I got it right
because I run several versions simultaneously to test my apps in those
versions. Note that my folder list is contiguous, meaning all versions
are installed on the root drive.

As for which version ends up to be your default.., that depends on what
Update does. Bear in mind that MS doesn't give a hoot about how later
releases play with 8/9/10 because they want to sell software over and
over and over again. I don't expect you'll get satisfaction from your
attempts to report/complain about the problems you're having. It might,
though, spawn some interest for them to include an update fix! (Being
optimistic here<g>)

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Andy said:
Thanks Good Guy.

I read the article.

Andy


It's the same article I have already given you.
Your problem may be that you did not install the Office versions in the
proper order.... oldest first. Office suites, like operating systems,
must be installed in a particular order. This info is documented in
release notes and KB articles. There are and have been countless
multiple Office installations with none of your issues, going back many
versions. The problems seem to be related to your not following the
correct installation procedures.
 
Andy brought next idea :





This is a hack workaround, NOT a fix!






Well, your problem might very well lie with Winword. Does it persist

for the other MSO apps? (Note that I primarily use Excel because that's

my dev platform. I only use word to open template samples people send

to have Excel templates made.)






I do also (VB6/VBA) and so why so many versions are installed on my dev

machine. I also ran into issues early on and since I found the answer

of using separate folders I've been problem free. I know I got it right

because I run several versions simultaneously to test my apps in those

versions. Note that my folder list is contiguous, meaning all versions

are installed on the root drive.



As for which version ends up to be your default.., that depends on what

Update does. Bear in mind that MS doesn't give a hoot about how later

releases play with 8/9/10 because they want to sell software over and

over and over again. I don't expect you'll get satisfaction from your

attempts to report/complain about the problems you're having. It might,

though, spawn some interest for them to include an update fix! (Being

optimistic here<g>)



--

Garry



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What you termed a hack was given right here by an ex MVP. :-)

I feel like I will find a fix if I persevere.
I am getting a lot of help.

Andy

Won’t God give justice to his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he delay long to help them? I tell you, he will give them justice speedily. Luke 18:7,8 (Persevere in prayer and loyalty to God)
 
It's the same article I have already given you.

Your problem may be that you did not install the Office versions in the

proper order.... oldest first. Office suites, like operating systems,

must be installed in a particular order. This info is documented in

release notes and KB articles. There are and have been countless

multiple Office installations with none of your issues, going back many

versions. The problems seem to be related to your not following the

correct installation procedures.

--

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MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+

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Ballmer was right about one thing. We got a chance to watch consumer markets unfold with phones and music players. Zune failed miserably. Windows Mobile accounted for 15.7 percent of the U.S. mobile market in January 2010, according to comScore, but in two years Microsoft's flagship mobile product slipped to 3.9 percent. Outside the United States, Windows Mobile never amounted to half a hill of beans.

Then there was the Kin, the short-lived square-ish mobile phone with socialnetworking aspirations. In a move reminiscent of "The Cat in the Hat," in 2010, we were offered Kin One and Kin Two. Like Thing One and Thing Two, the Kin was locked in a software box -- a client-server architecture that didn't allow third-party apps -- although the hardware was based on an ARM design. Verizon started selling Thing One and Thing Two in May 2010; 48 days later, Verizon gave up and sent all of its unsold Kins back to Microsoft.

Last month, Wired ran a series of leaked internal Microsoft videos that show pre-release testing of the Kin, and the results were devastating: Testerscouldn't figure out how to perform even the most basic functions. If you bought a phone, you would expect to be able to make a call with it, right? Silly mortals. Heaven only knows why Microsoft continued the project.

Then there's the tablet debacle. Bill Gates talked about the Tablet PC in his Comdex Fall 2000 keynote, and Tablet PC general manager Alexandra Loeb gave the details in a Microsoft press release from November 2000:

First and foremost, the Microsoft vision for a Tablet PC is that it's afull Windows computer. It runs all of your familiar productivity applications such as Word, Excel and PowerPoint, and offers the same rich connectivity to the Internet that you expect from your desktop or notebook PC. ... Because you can write on the screen, it's optimized for tasks that are very common in business computing -- like taking notes at a meeting or annotatinga document, or for immersive reading. ... There are no compromises.

No compromises. Immersive. Twelve years ago. Thankfully, she didn't mention"fast" or "fluid."

The first Windows XP Tablet PC Edition tablets appeared in 2002 and drew loud applause from a small group of fans, along with skepticism from many corners. Ultimately, the market spoke. Windows Tablet PC hardly rates a footnote.

Did Microsoft learn its lesson? Consider that in 2006, Microsoft hooked up with Intel and Samsung to work on Project Origami, the Ultra-Mobile PC (UMPC) effort that culminated in a small handful of touch-sensitive machines, some of which ran Windows Tablet PC Edition. Slow, clunky, battery-deprived,and almost universally despised, the Origamis hardly broke the consumer surface.

Then came the Microsoft Courier, arguably Microsoft's most innovative mobile device to date: dual 7-inch touchscreens, hinged in the middle as a book;high-resolution (for the time) camera. Nobody knows for sure, but reports say it would've weighed about a pound, sported Wi-Fi, an inductive charger,and a Home button, driven by an ARM Nvidia Tegra processor. The tile-less Infinite Journal interface would look more like a diary and offer touch or stylus access to a contact list, task organizer, free-form drawing program,email, browser, and maybe even an e-reader.

Reports of the Courier began circulating in 2008, just after the Origami went down in flames and shortly before rumors started leaking about the iPad.As best as anyone can tell, the project was killed in 2010, soon after thefirst iPad shipped. Ballmer spiked it in a shoot-out between the Courier'sbiggest proponent J Allard and Steve Sinofsky, who was busy consolidating his vision of Windows 8 on a tablet and didn't want to get sidetracked (or sideswiped) by the Windows CE-based Courier. Ultimately, Sinofsky won, the Courier died, and both J Allard and his boss Robbie Bach left Microsoft shortly after, a brain bust that has significant repercussions to this day.

Does Microsoft "get" consumer mobile? A couple of decades and multiple billions of dollars later, that's still a pertinent question. You can draw yourown conclusions.

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Andy said:
What you termed a hack was given right here by an ex MVP. :-)

I feel like I will find a fix if I persevere.
I am getting a lot of help.

It isn't a "hack", it's a Registry edit to prevent the re-registration
issue when multiple Office versions are installed. If you consider all
registry edits "hacks" then you are calling most fixes for issues to be
hacks.

Office works with multiple versions installed, has been tested both by
MS and by thousands of users repeatedly. As long as you follow the
directions posted in KB articles and release notes, there is no problem.
Issues that sometimes appear like your re-registration issue are fixed
with documented registry edits. You apparently did not follow any of
the procedures for correctly doing a multiple version installation, and
have stated you refuse to uninstall and reinstall correctly.

Good luck fixing your self-created issues.
 
It isn't a "hack", it's a Registry edit to prevent the re-registration

issue when multiple Office versions are installed. If you consider all

registry edits "hacks" then you are calling most fixes for issues to be

hacks.



Office works with multiple versions installed, has been tested both by

MS and by thousands of users repeatedly. As long as you follow the

directions posted in KB articles and release notes, there is no problem.

Issues that sometimes appear like your re-registration issue are fixed

with documented registry edits. You apparently did not follow any of

the procedures for correctly doing a multiple version installation, and

have stated you refuse to uninstall and reinstall correctly.



Good luck fixing your self-created issues.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+

Hard work and perseverance will get the job done.

Andy

Characteristics

There is no specific definition of the term "god complex," but there are certain characteristics that are common in people who are said to have this. These characteristics include arrogance, bullying or manipulating others, being judgmental and believing that he or she is never wrong. Someone who has a god complex might also be prone to becoming angry when things do not gohis or her way, might be poor at interpersonal communication and might notbe receptive to criticism. He or she also might try to exert a great deal of influence in various matters or relish having power, authority or control. Many people exhibit some of these characteristics in certain situations,even if they would not be said to have god complexes.
 
Andy said:
Hard work and perseverance will get the job done.

Andy

Characteristics

There is no specific definition of the term "god complex," but there
are certain characteristics that are common in people who are said to
have this. These characteristics include arrogance, bullying or
manipulating others, being judgmental and believing that he or she is
never wrong. Someone who has a god complex might also be prone to
becoming angry when things do not go his or her way, might be poor at
interpersonal communication and might not be receptive to criticism.
He or she also might try to exert a great deal of influence in
various matters or relish having power, authority or control. Many
people exhibit some of these characteristics in certain situations,
even if they would not be said to have god complexes.

There are also certain characteristics common to people who are said to be
"idiots". Unwillingness to follow instructions to fix a problem is one of
those characteristics.

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dadiOH said:
There are also certain characteristics common to people who are said
to be "idiots". Unwillingness to follow instructions to fix a problem
is one of those characteristics.

lol.... quite so!
 
Andy said:
Hard work and perseverance will get the job done.

Andy

Characteristics

There is no specific definition of the term "god complex," but there
are certain
characteristics that are common in people who are said to have this.
These characteristics
include arrogance, bullying or manipulating others, being judgmental
and believing that he
or she is never wrong. Someone who has a god complex might also be
prone to becoming angry
when things do not go his or her way, might be poor at interpersonal
communication and
might not be receptive to criticism. He or she also might try to exert
a great deal of
influence in various matters or relish having power, authority or
control. Many people
exhibit some of these characteristics in certain situations, even if
they would not be
said to have god complexes.

Very good.... you have described your characteristics fairly closely.
Good luck!
 
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