2 Occurrences of W2k on 1 HD - Possible ?

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Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and one as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition 1 to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I set at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks
 
nospam@thanks said:
Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and one as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition 1 to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I set at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............
Just keep in mind that in your case your main OS will remain on the
first partition, if you ever delete it you cannot make your second your
first by trying to move it to the first partition or resizing the drive
to make it one partition and expect the 2nd instance to work.

You may want to take a look at XOSL before installing you second
OS......Nativly win2k bootloader will not hide your second partition
when using your first not unless you use third party software......

http://www2.arnes.si/~fkomar/xosl.org/

Why dont you just use ghost to make an image of your first and store it
to that second partition? Create the second as a logical and use it as a
storage drive for data.....Seems like a waste of space just to leave a
"whole" installed copy to 32gig thereby limiting yourself if you have
that PT hidden, or not for that matter.....Sorta ask for trouble when
you leave a second instance of an OS install exposed.......

Good Luck.........
 
ByTor said:
nospam@thanks said:
Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and one as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition 1 to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I set at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............


Ok I now have a copy W2K in partition 2 and I have the Partition 2 BOOT.INI
with the partition(2) reference. (the Partition 1 BOOT.INI correctly shows
partition(1)) (done with an old DOS editor XTREE by booting with a floppy
to the required partition) I have a small .TXT file in partition 1 and 2
root so I know I have booted to the required partition and I can now boot
into either partition 1 W2K or partition 2 W2K ok. Booting to P1 shows the
active drive C but booting to P2 shows the active drive E which I believe is
a problem. Is there a way to cause the active drive letter of whichever
partition I boot to be drive C and the other partition to be anything other
that C ?

Thanks
 
ByTor said:
nospam@thanks said:
Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and one as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition 1 to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I set at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............


Ok I now have a copy W2K in partition 2 and I have the Partition 2 BOOT.INI
with the partition(2) reference. (the Partition 1 BOOT.INI correctly shows
partition(1)) (done with an old DOS editor XTREE by booting with a floppy
to the required partition) I have a small .TXT file in partition 1 and 2
root so I know I have booted to the required partition and I can now boot
into either partition 1 W2K or partition 2 W2K ok. Booting to P1 shows the
active drive C but booting to P2 shows the active drive E which I believe is
a problem. Is there a way to cause the active drive letter of whichever
partition I boot to be drive C and the other partition to be anything other
that C ?

Thanks

No..........Once installed as a particular drive letter it cannot be
changed.

Are you the original poster "Alt" or are you just searching for info
yourself??

Only true way to setup every OS instance as drive C is by using primary
partitions & a 3rd party bootloader which will hide each partition OS
from each other.........
I have 4 OS's on 4 primaries using BootMagic.....When I was installing
any additional OS the "active" ones have got to be hidden from the
install, if not it will drop a bootloader on the nearest one and hence
assign different drive letters to the install.....

Confused??? ;0)
 
ByTor said:
ByTor said:
Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and
one
as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition
1
to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I
set
at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............


Ok I now have a copy W2K in partition 2 and I have the Partition 2 BOOT.INI
with the partition(2) reference. (the Partition 1 BOOT.INI correctly shows
partition(1)) (done with an old DOS editor XTREE by booting with a floppy
to the required partition) I have a small .TXT file in partition 1 and 2
root so I know I have booted to the required partition and I can now boot
into either partition 1 W2K or partition 2 W2K ok. Booting to P1 shows the
active drive C but booting to P2 shows the active drive E which I believe is
a problem. Is there a way to cause the active drive letter of whichever
partition I boot to be drive C and the other partition to be anything other
that C ?

No..........Once installed as a particular drive letter it cannot be
changed.

Are you the original poster "Alt" or are you just searching for info
yourself??

Only true way to setup every OS instance as drive C is by using primary
partitions & a 3rd party bootloader which will hide each partition OS
from each other.........
I have 4 OS's on 4 primaries using BootMagic.....When I was installing
any additional OS the "active" ones have got to be hidden from the
install, if not it will drop a bootloader on the nearest one and hence
assign different drive letters to the install.....

Confused??? ;0)


Yes I'm the orig poster.... replied from a different location.

I will look at BootMagic. Is it easy to setup / use
Very many thanks.

John... Alt Beer
 
nospam@thanks said:
ByTor said:
Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of Windows 2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use and one
as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all Partition 1
to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk
Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which I set
at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same
partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable
occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............


Ok I now have a copy W2K in partition 2 and I have the Partition 2 BOOT.INI
with the partition(2) reference. (the Partition 1 BOOT.INI correctly shows
partition(1)) (done with an old DOS editor XTREE by booting with a floppy
to the required partition) I have a small .TXT file in partition 1 and 2
root so I know I have booted to the required partition and I can now boot
into either partition 1 W2K or partition 2 W2K ok. Booting to P1 shows the
active drive C but booting to P2 shows the active drive E which I believe is
a problem. Is there a way to cause the active drive letter of whichever
partition I boot to be drive C and the other partition to be anything other
that C ?

No..........Once installed as a particular drive letter it cannot be
changed.

Are you the original poster "Alt" or are you just searching for info
yourself??

Only true way to setup every OS instance as drive C is by using primary
partitions & a 3rd party bootloader which will hide each partition OS
from each other.........
I have 4 OS's on 4 primaries using BootMagic.....When I was installing
any additional OS the "active" ones have got to be hidden from the
install, if not it will drop a bootloader on the nearest one and hence
assign different drive letters to the install.....

Confused??? ;0)


Yes I'm the orig poster.... replied from a different location.

I will look at BootMagic. Is it easy to setup / use
Very many thanks.

John... Alt Beer

Yes it's very easy......When ya get going I can walk ya thru it if you
like.....It also helps to use a reliable partitioning tool also....I
still believe bootmagic comes with Partition Magic.........
 
ByTor said:
nospam@thanks said:
ByTor said:
John says...

Beer says...

Should it be possible to have two bootable occurrences of
Windows
2000
installed on one hard disk (two partitions) ? One for main use
and
one
as a
bootable backup copy. Or would there be interaction ?

I have two primary partitions (FAT32 32GB), named Partition 1 and
Partitiion 2. These report correctly when right clicking <My Computer>,
<Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk Management (Local)>.

My main W2K is in Partition 1. I used Ghost to Copy all
Partition
1
to
Partition 2 Then when I do Computer>, <Manage>,<Storage>,<Disk
Management
(Local)> both partitions show as Partition 1 and no matter which
I
set
at
the active partition (using FDISK) I always boot into the same
partition.

Hence my question, should it be possible to have two bootable
occurrences of
Windows 2000 installed on one hard disk (two partitions)

Thanks

When you are dealing with multiboot, your second instance of 2k has to
be assigned to "partition(2)" In your case you just cloned partition
(1)......Hence why it won't boot. Should read like this:

Partition One:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Partition Two:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect

Notice the default & multi line changes............

I have never successfully just changed those lines because Win2k was
originally installed to the "first" partition....You have to do a
seperate install to your second partition for the boot.ini to be
correct, unless someone knows a fix, I've never learned it or been
successful............


Ok I now have a copy W2K in partition 2 and I have the Partition 2 BOOT.INI
with the partition(2) reference. (the Partition 1 BOOT.INI
correctly
shows
partition(1)) (done with an old DOS editor XTREE by booting with a floppy
to the required partition) I have a small .TXT file in partition
1
and 2
root so I know I have booted to the required partition and I can now boot
into either partition 1 W2K or partition 2 W2K ok. Booting to P1
shows
the
active drive C but booting to P2 shows the active drive E which I believe is
a problem. Is there a way to cause the active drive letter of whichever
partition I boot to be drive C and the other partition to be
anything
other
that C ?

No..........Once installed as a particular drive letter it cannot be
changed.

Are you the original poster "Alt" or are you just searching for info
yourself??

Only true way to setup every OS instance as drive C is by using primary
partitions & a 3rd party bootloader which will hide each partition OS
from each other.........
I have 4 OS's on 4 primaries using BootMagic.....When I was installing
any additional OS the "active" ones have got to be hidden from the
install, if not it will drop a bootloader on the nearest one and hence
assign different drive letters to the install.....

Confused??? ;0)
Yes I'm the orig poster.... replied from a different location.

I will look at BootMagic. Is it easy to setup / use
Very many thanks.

John... Alt Beer

Yes it's very easy......When ya get going I can walk ya thru it if you
like.....It also helps to use a reliable partitioning tool also....I
still believe bootmagic comes with Partition Magic.........

Yup... I have both... will give it a try. THANKS for you help

John Alt Beer
//*
 
nospam@thanks said:
Yup... I have both... will give it a try. THANKS for you help

John Alt Beer
//*

No problem....Like I said I can walk ya through it if ya like
anytime.....Just tell me how ya wanna setup your system.

Good Luck.
 

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