2 laptops,1 switch,file sharing,!cable internet network setup?

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peter

hi All,

I wondered if anyone has had problems like myself,and this time I cannot get
the *FILE SHARING* between my 2 laptops to work.It used to file
share.....

1 laptop has XP SP1
1 laptop has XP SP2

1 switch that is connected to a cable modem,and the 2 laptops

The internet works fine

ON THE PC WITH XP SP1:
I used the "setup up a home or small office network" wizard with the "other"
option chosen in the "select a connection method grey window,
then i chose the
"this computer connects directly to the internet directly or through a
network hub.Other computers on my network also connect to the internet
directly or through a hub" option.

then in the next grey window it chose the "local area connection" as the
internet connection

then if i chose the
"let me choose the connections to my network" or if i choose the "determine
the appropriate connections for me" option, there are the same options of
the "1394 Connection" and "bluetooth network" that will become bridged
connections.

ON THE PC WITH XP SP2
It is slightly differnt,in that doesnt ask me what the connections I would
like to choose.

PREVIOUSLY (WHEN FILE SHARING WORKED)
The options i chose for each pc was *different* !!! as it would not work any
other way ! And i cant remember what the settings/options i chose were.I
have tried quite a few different combinations of settings on the 2 pc's but
they wont *file share*,this time.

What settings should I use on the 2 pc's ???? it used to work fine,with
different settings on each pc ! WHY is it so hard to get it to work ???

Anyone know how to get it to work ????


TIA for advice

gratefully
Peter
 
You must use a router, not a switch.

Only a router will handle internal addressing.

A switch is a passive device and cannot be used to connect two computers to
a single internet connection at the same time.

Bobby
 
yes ok,but it used to work,last week,until i changed the name of one of my
pc's,and i had to resetup the network
 
and i forgot to mention

that the work group name used in the network setup wizard is the same.The
problem is that neither computer can see the other one in the "view
workgroup computers".
On the pc with sp2,it will only show itself in this list.And on the pc with
sp2,it will not show anyhthing at all,it will have a popup grey window that
says that the "is not accessbile.You might not havbe permission to use this
network resource etc ......"

And the firewall and anti virus software on both pc's are turned off and
file sharing is turned on for the lan connections in the "view network
connections"

Anyone have any ideas ??

What i remember is that it worked when the pc with sp1 showed the lan in
both the internet connection method as well as the network connection method
in the network setup wizard.And this time i cannot find the option in the
network wizard,on the pc with sp1, that will show the lan connection in both
the internet and network connection methods,in the steps in the network
setup wizard
 
the internet works fine (and it always has) on both pc's connected to the
internet,i have them on right now connected to the switch.The problem i am
having is, file sharing,not the internet because the pc's cannot see each
other to file share
 
"NoNoBadDog!" said:
You must use a router, not a switch.

Only a router will handle internal addressing.

A switch is a passive device and cannot be used to connect two computers to
a single internet connection at the same time.

The switch can connect both computers to the Internet at the same time
if the cable modem service provides two public IP addresses.

The following answer applies to computers that connect to a cable
modem (or DSL modem) through a hub or switch. It doesn't apply if
they connect through a broadband router.

Your network setup is described in the Windows XP Help and Support
program. Click Start | Help and Support, search for the topic
"Network configurations overview", and look at the section labeled
"Individual Internet connections".

The solution given there is to install the IPX/SPX protocol for file
sharing and to disable file sharing on TCP/IP. I've written a web
page showing how to do it:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

There are two reasons to use IPX/SPX instead of TCP/IP for file
sharing:

1. If your cable provider assigns IP addresses in different subnets to
your computers, it isn't possible for them to communicate with each
other using TCP/IP.

2. Since your computers connect directly to the Internet through the
cable modem, they receive public IP addresses that are accessible by
everyone on the Internet. Using TCP/IP for file sharing could let
other people access your shared files.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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THANKS that worked !!

gratgefully,
Peter

Steve Winograd said:
The switch can connect both computers to the Internet at the same time
if the cable modem service provides two public IP addresses.

The following answer applies to computers that connect to a cable
modem (or DSL modem) through a hub or switch. It doesn't apply if
they connect through a broadband router.

Your network setup is described in the Windows XP Help and Support
program. Click Start | Help and Support, search for the topic
"Network configurations overview", and look at the section labeled
"Individual Internet connections".

The solution given there is to install the IPX/SPX protocol for file
sharing and to disable file sharing on TCP/IP. I've written a web
page showing how to do it:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

There are two reasons to use IPX/SPX instead of TCP/IP for file
sharing:

1. If your cable provider assigns IP addresses in different subnets to
your computers, it isn't possible for them to communicate with each
other using TCP/IP.

2. Since your computers connect directly to the Internet through the
cable modem, they receive public IP addresses that are accessible by
everyone on the Internet. Using TCP/IP for file sharing could let
other people access your shared files.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
"peter" said:
THANKS that worked !!

gratgefully,
Peter

You're welcome !!
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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