Pop Up Ads on StartUp

G

Guest

I am getting Pop Up ads when I boot my computer and these ads run through
Internet Explorer. As soon as I close one down another pops up and I have
had up to 4 or 5 before I don't get any more. I have read some posts about
this being from Messenger but I am not logged in to Messenger when I get them
(although it is running in the background). I have updated Norton and
Adaware SE but neither of these pck up my problem. I also have ZoneLabs Zone
Alarm installed.

Can anyone help me?
Joanne
 
G

Guest

Anyone ? NO, anyone can't help you. But someone with
sufficient skills can.

Take your computer to a professional and pay them to fix
this problem.
 
K

Kelly

Hi Joanne,

1. Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot and HijackThis:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.

Free Online Virus Scan
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

2. Messenger and Messenger Service are NOT related:

To disable the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services. Double click the
Messenger Service and change Automatic to Disabled, then click the Stop
button.

Or use this automated edit:

Disable Messenger Service (Line 95)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

More information and options here on using a Firewall:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_m.htm#ms

To Delete the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Run/CMD and type in: sc delete messenger. Reboot.

Or...

Or go to Start/Run/Regedit and navigate to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services

It may be wise to disable the Administrative Alerts Service as well.
Specify the Schedule for Alerter Service - This setting is used to specify
how often the server checks alert conditions and sends any required alert
messages to administrative users.
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/832/

Running ZoneAlarm and/or blocking incoming port 135 should be sufficient to
stop things.

To enable XP's Internet Connection Firewall
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q283673

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q330904

NOTE: Direct quote from the developers of this software:

"Notice: Please do not use this software for spamming. If you do so, you
will take full responsibility for your actions. This software is made to
send advertising or system messages to your own network".

To file complaints write to:
http://www.directadvertiser.com/contact.html


--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
 
G

Guest

Hi Kelly,

I have updated and run both Ad-Aware and Spybot. Ad-Aware returned only
cookies and I got 18 hits with Spybot. Nothing changed though. I have
installed and run HijackThis and saved my log file. Is there any chance you
could have a look at it?

Jo

Kelly said:
Hi Joanne,

1. Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot and HijackThis:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.

Free Online Virus Scan
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

2. Messenger and Messenger Service are NOT related:

To disable the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services. Double click the
Messenger Service and change Automatic to Disabled, then click the Stop
button.

Or use this automated edit:

Disable Messenger Service (Line 95)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

More information and options here on using a Firewall:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_m.htm#ms

To Delete the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Run/CMD and type in: sc delete messenger. Reboot.

Or...

Or go to Start/Run/Regedit and navigate to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services

It may be wise to disable the Administrative Alerts Service as well.
Specify the Schedule for Alerter Service - This setting is used to specify
how often the server checks alert conditions and sends any required alert
messages to administrative users.
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/832/

Running ZoneAlarm and/or blocking incoming port 135 should be sufficient to
stop things.

To enable XP's Internet Connection Firewall
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q283673

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q330904

NOTE: Direct quote from the developers of this software:

"Notice: Please do not use this software for spamming. If you do so, you
will take full responsibility for your actions. This software is made to
send advertising or system messages to your own network".

To file complaints write to:
http://www.directadvertiser.com/contact.html


--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com


jostubbs said:
I am getting Pop Up ads when I boot my computer and these ads run through
Internet Explorer. As soon as I close one down another pops up and I have
had up to 4 or 5 before I don't get any more. I have read some posts
about
this being from Messenger but I am not logged in to Messenger when I get
them
(although it is running in the background). I have updated Norton and
Adaware SE but neither of these pck up my problem. I also have ZoneLabs
Zone
Alarm installed.

Can anyone help me?
Joanne
 
S

SG

Jo,

Have you tried MSAS?
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

Although it's still in BETA, I recommend it and I think you will be
surprised at what it finds. After you install be sure and do the Update,
then reboot in Safe Mode and log on as Administrator to run it.

All the best,
--
George Aker aka SG
Google is your friend www.google.com
Anything else is just a search engine

jostubbs said:
Hi Kelly,

I have updated and run both Ad-Aware and Spybot. Ad-Aware returned only
cookies and I got 18 hits with Spybot. Nothing changed though. I have
installed and run HijackThis and saved my log file. Is there any chance you
could have a look at it?

Jo

Kelly said:
Hi Joanne,

1. Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot and HijackThis:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.

Free Online Virus Scan
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

2. Messenger and Messenger Service are NOT related:

To disable the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services. Double click the
Messenger Service and change Automatic to Disabled, then click the Stop
button.

Or use this automated edit:

Disable Messenger Service (Line 95)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

More information and options here on using a Firewall:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_m.htm#ms

To Delete the Messenger Service:

Go to Start/Run/CMD and type in: sc delete messenger. Reboot.

Or...

Or go to Start/Run/Regedit and navigate to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services

It may be wise to disable the Administrative Alerts Service as well.
Specify the Schedule for Alerter Service - This setting is used to specify
how often the server checks alert conditions and sends any required alert
messages to administrative users.
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/832/

Running ZoneAlarm and/or blocking incoming port 135 should be sufficient to
stop things.

To enable XP's Internet Connection Firewall
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q283673

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q330904

NOTE: Direct quote from the developers of this software:

"Notice: Please do not use this software for spamming. If you do so, you
will take full responsibility for your actions. This software is made to
send advertising or system messages to your own network".

To file complaints write to:
http://www.directadvertiser.com/contact.html


--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com


jostubbs said:
I am getting Pop Up ads when I boot my computer and these ads run through
Internet Explorer. As soon as I close one down another pops up and I have
had up to 4 or 5 before I don't get any more. I have read some posts
about
this being from Messenger but I am not logged in to Messenger when I get
them
(although it is running in the background). I have updated Norton and
Adaware SE but neither of these pck up my problem. I also have ZoneLabs
Zone
Alarm installed.

Can anyone help me?
Joanne
 
B

Bruce Chambers

jostubbs said:
I am getting Pop Up ads when I boot my computer and these ads run through
Internet Explorer. As soon as I close one down another pops up and I have
had up to 4 or 5 before I don't get any more. I have read some posts about
this being from Messenger but I am not logged in to Messenger when I get them
(although it is running in the background). I have updated Norton and
Adaware SE but neither of these pck up my problem. I also have ZoneLabs Zone
Alarm installed.

Can anyone help me?
Joanne


What specific kind of pop-ups are you seeing? There are at least
three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions vary accordingly.

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the couple of
years, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that
swept across the Internet last year and the currently active Sasser
Worm. Install and use a decent, properly configured firewall.
(Merely disabling the messenger service, as some people recommend,
only hides the symptom, and does little or nothing to truly secure
your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" the security
gap represented by these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is not the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Alternatively, you can upgrade your WinXP
to SP2, to install IE's pop-up blocker. Another alternative would be
to use another browser, such as Mozilla or Firefox, which has pop-up
blocking capabilities. (But I'd avoid Netscape; it carries too much
extraneous AOL garbage.)

3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
G

Guest

I am not sure which of these to try. These ads come up even when I am not
running Internet Explorer but don't seem to come up when I don't have Windows
Messenger running. Is there any way I can stop Messenger from loading on
startup? I have tried to take it out of the startup sequence when running
msconfig but it seems to keep puttin itself back in there. There is also
another suspicious startup file (c:\windows\system32\elitejgk32.exe) even
though there is no file of this name within that directory. I also cannot
get rid of this from the startup as it keeps coming back.

The ads themselves look like a small internet window and it is always the
same cycle of ads showing up.

I already have Ad-Aware SE and Spybot and this has not fixed it although
Spybot did find some things that Ad-Aware did not.

I hope you can help. I am starting to get the feeling that I am going to
have to reload everything from scratch....

Jo
 
M

Malke

jostubbs said:
I am not sure which of these to try. These ads come up even when I am
not running Internet Explorer but don't seem to come up when I don't
have Windows
Messenger running. Is there any way I can stop Messenger from loading
on
startup? I have tried to take it out of the startup sequence when
running
msconfig but it seems to keep puttin itself back in there. There is
also another suspicious startup file
(c:\windows\system32\elitejgk32.exe) even
though there is no file of this name within that directory. I also
cannot get rid of this from the startup as it keeps coming back.

The ads themselves look like a small internet window and it is always
the same cycle of ads showing up.

I already have Ad-Aware SE and Spybot and this has not fixed it
although Spybot did find some things that Ad-Aware did not.

I hope you can help. I am starting to get the feeling that I am going
to have to reload everything from scratch....

Jo

Hi, Joanne. It looks like you have the Elite Toolbar malware on your
system, and probably other cr*p, too. Windows Messenger is not the same
as the Messenger Service. To prevent Windows Messenger (the instant
messaging application) from starting, from within the program click on
Preferences and uncheck the option to have it start with Windows. Then
exit the program. You should disable the Messenger Service by doing:

Start>Run services.msc [enter]

Then scroll down to the Messenger Service, stop it, and set it to
"Disabled".

You will need to clean up your computer as Kelly suggested, although the
Elite Toolbar can be quite tricky to remove. You will definitely need
to use HijackThis. This requires expert skill. Here are my general
malware removal steps. You must do everything with updated tools in
Safe Mode. When you get to the HijackThis part, post your log at one of
the suggested forums (not here, please). I highly recommend the AumHa
forum - the regulars are helpful, friendly, and extremely expert.

First delete all Temporary and Temporary Internet Files. Then:

1) Scan in Safe Mode with current version (not earlier than 2004)
antivirus using updated definitions.

Before you remove malware, get LSPFix or WinSockFix for XP - see links
below.

2) Remove spyware with Spybot Search & Destroy and Ad-aware. These
programs are free, so use them both since they complement each other.
There is a new version of CWShredder from Intermute. I would not
install the other Intermute programs, however. Alternately, there are
CoolWebSearch malware removal steps at SilentRunners.

Be sure to update these programs before running, and it is a good idea
to do virus/spyware scans in Safe Mode. Make sure you are able to see
all hidden files and extensions (View tab in Folder Options).

If the malware remains even after you used Ad-aware and Spybot, you can
scan with HijackThis. HijackThis is an excellent tool to discover and
disable hijackers, but it requires expert skill. See below for
HijackThis links, including sites where you can post your HJT logs. A
combination of HijackThis and About:Buster works well in removing the
About:Blank homepage hijacker. Again, this is an expert tool and
novices should get help with it.

3) If you are running Windows ME or XP, you should disable/enable System
Restore after the system is clean because malware will be in the
Restore Points. With ME, you must disable System Restore completely.
With XP, you can delete all but the most recent (presumably clean)
System Restore point from the More Options section of Disk Cleanup
(Run>cleanmgr).

4) Make sure you've visited Windows Update and applied all security
patches. Do not install driver updates from Windows Update.

5) Run a firewall.

Links to help with malware:

Software/Methods:
http://www.safer-networking.org - Spybot Search & Destroy
http://www.lavasoftusa.com - Ad-aware
http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html
http://www.tomcoyote.com/hjt/ - HijackThis
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html
http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_cwsremoval.html. - SilentRunners
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm - Repair Winsock 2 settings after
removing spyware
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html - WinsockXPFix.exe

HijackThis:
http://www.aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm - HijackThis tutorial by Jim
Eshelman
http://aumha.net - forums
http://spywarewarrior.com/viewforum.php?f=5 - Spyware Warrior HijackThis
forum
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/
http://forums.tomcoyote.org/

General:
http://aumha.net - look under "Security" for various forums
http://rgharper.mvps.org/cleanit.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm - The Parasite Fight
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

If this all seems overwhelming, take the machine to a good local
professional (not a BestBuy or CompUSA type of store). There is no
shame in doing this; I don't hesitate to take my car to the mechanic.

Good luck,

Malke
 
G

Guest

Malke, a big thank you to you. It looks like that may have worked. I ran
Norton in safe mode and it picked up the elite toolbar, 3 files in all. After
re-booting in normal mode none of the ads have so far popped up and it has
been over an hour now.

I also tried what you suggested about Windows Messenger but even with all
that you suggested it is still trying to start up and even sign me in. When
I try to close it I get a message saying it can't close it because it needs
to run for another program?? Not sure what this means?? Anyway, this is a
minor problem, at least it looks like the other has gone.

Thanks again,
Joanne


Malke said:
jostubbs said:
I am not sure which of these to try. These ads come up even when I am
not running Internet Explorer but don't seem to come up when I don't
have Windows
Messenger running. Is there any way I can stop Messenger from loading
on
startup? I have tried to take it out of the startup sequence when
running
msconfig but it seems to keep puttin itself back in there. There is
also another suspicious startup file
(c:\windows\system32\elitejgk32.exe) even
though there is no file of this name within that directory. I also
cannot get rid of this from the startup as it keeps coming back.

The ads themselves look like a small internet window and it is always
the same cycle of ads showing up.

I already have Ad-Aware SE and Spybot and this has not fixed it
although Spybot did find some things that Ad-Aware did not.

I hope you can help. I am starting to get the feeling that I am going
to have to reload everything from scratch....

Jo

Hi, Joanne. It looks like you have the Elite Toolbar malware on your
system, and probably other cr*p, too. Windows Messenger is not the same
as the Messenger Service. To prevent Windows Messenger (the instant
messaging application) from starting, from within the program click on
Preferences and uncheck the option to have it start with Windows. Then
exit the program. You should disable the Messenger Service by doing:

Start>Run services.msc [enter]

Then scroll down to the Messenger Service, stop it, and set it to
"Disabled".

You will need to clean up your computer as Kelly suggested, although the
Elite Toolbar can be quite tricky to remove. You will definitely need
to use HijackThis. This requires expert skill. Here are my general
malware removal steps. You must do everything with updated tools in
Safe Mode. When you get to the HijackThis part, post your log at one of
the suggested forums (not here, please). I highly recommend the AumHa
forum - the regulars are helpful, friendly, and extremely expert.

First delete all Temporary and Temporary Internet Files. Then:

1) Scan in Safe Mode with current version (not earlier than 2004)
antivirus using updated definitions.

Before you remove malware, get LSPFix or WinSockFix for XP - see links
below.

2) Remove spyware with Spybot Search & Destroy and Ad-aware. These
programs are free, so use them both since they complement each other.
There is a new version of CWShredder from Intermute. I would not
install the other Intermute programs, however. Alternately, there are
CoolWebSearch malware removal steps at SilentRunners.

Be sure to update these programs before running, and it is a good idea
to do virus/spyware scans in Safe Mode. Make sure you are able to see
all hidden files and extensions (View tab in Folder Options).

If the malware remains even after you used Ad-aware and Spybot, you can
scan with HijackThis. HijackThis is an excellent tool to discover and
disable hijackers, but it requires expert skill. See below for
HijackThis links, including sites where you can post your HJT logs. A
combination of HijackThis and About:Buster works well in removing the
About:Blank homepage hijacker. Again, this is an expert tool and
novices should get help with it.

3) If you are running Windows ME or XP, you should disable/enable System
Restore after the system is clean because malware will be in the
Restore Points. With ME, you must disable System Restore completely.
With XP, you can delete all but the most recent (presumably clean)
System Restore point from the More Options section of Disk Cleanup
(Run>cleanmgr).

4) Make sure you've visited Windows Update and applied all security
patches. Do not install driver updates from Windows Update.

5) Run a firewall.

Links to help with malware:

Software/Methods:
http://www.safer-networking.org - Spybot Search & Destroy
http://www.lavasoftusa.com - Ad-aware
http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html
http://www.tomcoyote.com/hjt/ - HijackThis
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html
http://www.silentrunners.org/sr_cwsremoval.html. - SilentRunners
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm - Repair Winsock 2 settings after
removing spyware
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html - WinsockXPFix.exe

HijackThis:
http://www.aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm - HijackThis tutorial by Jim
Eshelman
http://aumha.net - forums
http://spywarewarrior.com/viewforum.php?f=5 - Spyware Warrior HijackThis
forum
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/
http://forums.tomcoyote.org/

General:
http://aumha.net - look under "Security" for various forums
http://rgharper.mvps.org/cleanit.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm - The Parasite Fight
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

If this all seems overwhelming, take the machine to a good local
professional (not a BestBuy or CompUSA type of store). There is no
shame in doing this; I don't hesitate to take my car to the mechanic.

Good luck,

Malke
--
MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
www.elephantboycomputers.com
In Memoriam - MVP Alex Nichol
The world is diminished without him.
 
M

Malke

jostubbs said:
Malke, a big thank you to you. It looks like that may have worked. I
ran Norton in safe mode and it picked up the elite toolbar, 3 files in
all. After re-booting in normal mode none of the ads have so far
popped up and it has been over an hour now.

I also tried what you suggested about Windows Messenger but even with
all
that you suggested it is still trying to start up and even sign me in.
When I try to close it I get a message saying it can't close it
because it needs
to run for another program?? Not sure what this means?? Anyway, this
is a minor problem, at least it looks like the other has gone.

Excellent, Joanne! It is possible that another program you are running
is calling Messenger - probably Outlook Express. If you use OE for your
email, then look in its Options and you will see a place to "sign onto
Messenger". Just uncheck that box and Messenger will go away.

If you don't have SP2, you should get it. Make sure your computer is
100% clean and you've backed up your files first. Here are some links
to help prepare for SP2 (just in case you don't have it):

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2? -
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=windowsxpsp2

Visiting a Service Center to Get SP2 - http://tinyurl.com/53xz4

Follow the Service Pack Installation Checklist -
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

Malke
 

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