XP network wizard install on 98SE (SSDP and UPnP?)

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Dan

Hello,

I've managed to get my XPpro machine to communicate
successfully to my 98SE machine using the XP Network
wizard and both can connect to the internet (via a
modem/router). However, I don't seem to be able to
control the connection under 98SE as no connection icon
appears in the taskbar even though SSDP and UPnP are
installed. Does anyone know whether these services are
meant to work under 98SE (SSDP and UPnP?), if not why are
they installed when you run the wizard?

Thanks Dan
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Dan" said:
Hello,

I've managed to get my XPpro machine to communicate
successfully to my 98SE machine using the XP Network
wizard and both can connect to the internet (via a
modem/router). However, I don't seem to be able to
control the connection under 98SE as no connection icon
appears in the taskbar even though SSDP and UPnP are
installed. Does anyone know whether these services are
meant to work under 98SE (SSDP and UPnP?), if not why are
they installed when you run the wizard?

Thanks Dan

The "Internet Gateway" feature on 98SE, which creates the taskbar
icon, requires Internet Explorer version 5.01 or later.

A firewall might be blocking the Internet Gateway.

I see UPnP in Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup | Communications
after running the Wizard on 98SE, but I don't see SSDP. What tells
you that SSDP is installed?
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Guest

Steve,

Thanks for your message. After running the network wizard
on my 98SE machine I see UPnP under the windows set-up as
you have described. The following is also added to my
start-up (which I think attempts to run Internet Gateway
as the shortcut under Accessories/Communications/Internet
Gateway also points to this): "rundll32.exe
Icsdclt.dll,ICSClient". I can confirm that this service
does attempt to run as it is trapped by my software
firewall (Zone Alarm) and I have then granted it access to
the necessary ports and also tried running it with ZA
uninstalled. However, it produces a dialogue box
indicating that it can't find any Upnp devices or an ICS
machine, maybe there are some other services that need to
be running too? I can confirm that the Upnp device (a
router) is set-up correctly as it is correctly detected
and can be controlled from my XP machines.

Any additional help/advice you can provide would be much
appreciated.

Thanks Dan
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Steve,

Thanks for your message. After running the network wizard
on my 98SE machine I see UPnP under the windows set-up as
you have described. The following is also added to my
start-up (which I think attempts to run Internet Gateway
as the shortcut under Accessories/Communications/Internet
Gateway also points to this): "rundll32.exe
Icsdclt.dll,ICSClient". I can confirm that this service
does attempt to run as it is trapped by my software
firewall (Zone Alarm) and I have then granted it access to
the necessary ports and also tried running it with ZA
uninstalled. However, it produces a dialogue box
indicating that it can't find any Upnp devices or an ICS
machine, maybe there are some other services that need to
be running too? I can confirm that the Upnp device (a
router) is set-up correctly as it is correctly detected
and can be controlled from my XP machines.

Any additional help/advice you can provide would be much
appreciated.

Thanks Dan

On my 98SE computer, the command to run the Internet Gateway is:

C:\Windows\rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\icsdclt.dll,ICSClient

Msconfig | Startup also shows this command, which seems to indicate
that SSDP is present, even though it doesn't appear in the list of
programs that can be removed:

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ssdpsrv.exe

Verify that 98SE is running the proper version of Internet Explorer.
Try un-installing UPnP and then running XP's Network Setup Wizard
again, telling it that the computer connects to the Internet through a
residential gateway.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Guest

Steve,

Thanks for the additional info. My set-up seems OK (I've checked that both SSDPSRV.EXE and Internet Gateway are in my start-up and I've confirmed that SSDPSRV is scanning port 1900) and I'm running IE v6.0. I've tried removing and reinstalling the network again using the XP wizard and I removed the software firewall in case it was interfering. However, I still get the same dialog box when I run Internet Gateway indicating that it can't find an internet gateway on my network?

I can't think of any other programs that might be interfering with the service? Any more ideas?

Thanks,

Dan
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dan said:
Steve,

Thanks for the additional info. My set-up seems OK (I've checked that both SSDPSRV.EXE and Internet Gateway are in my start-up and I've confirmed that SSDPSRV is scanning port 1900) and I'm running IE v6.0. I've tried removing and reinstalling the network again using the XP wizard and I removed the software firewall in case it was interfering. However, I still get the same dialog box when I run Internet Gateway indicating that it can't find an internet gateway on my network?

I can't think of any other programs that might be interfering with the service? Any more ideas?

Thanks,

Dan

I'm sorry, Dan, but I'm out of ideas.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Guest

Hi

I've been trying further to get the XP networking Internet Gateway program to work on my 98SE PC and I wondered if anyone has an answer to the following question

Is the Internet Gateway function in 98SE which is installed by the XP Network wizard (enables you to monitor your LAN connection and connect/disconnect) meant to only work when using an ICS host on another PC, or should it also work when a UPnP enabled gateway (router) is used to share a connection? I'm trying to get it to work with a UPnP router and I wondered if my problems are simply due to the fact that it isn't meant to work with my set-up

Thanks

Da
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Dan said:
Hi,

I've been trying further to get the XP networking Internet Gateway program to work on my 98SE PC and I wondered if anyone has an answer to the following question?

Is the Internet Gateway function in 98SE which is installed by the XP Network wizard (enables you to monitor your LAN connection and connect/disconnect) meant to only work when using an ICS host on another PC, or should it also work when a UPnP enabled gateway (router) is used to share a connection? I'm trying to get it to work with a UPnP router and I wondered if my problems are simply due to the fact that it isn't meant to work with my set-up?

Thanks,

Dan

The Internet Gateway function in 98SE should work with a UPnP router.
I've used it successfully with the Linksys Network Everywhere NR041
and D-Link DI-604.

However, in my experience, it can be unreliable. I sometimes need to
reboot 98SE and/or release and renew the DHCP lease several times
before the Internet Gateway icon appears in the system tray.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 

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