Windows XP zipped folder

[Mary Kosanke]

I have a 20.7 mb file I am trying to email. It is too
big for my email program. I created a zipped folder in
Windows XP. I dragged the file into the zipped folder.
The zipped folder is still 20.7 mb. Shouldn't it have
reduced in size?

Thanks,

Mary Kosanke

 

[Paul Smith]

I have a 20.7 mb file I am trying to email. It is too
big for my email program. I created a zipped folder in
Windows XP. I dragged the file into the zipped folder.
The zipped folder is still 20.7 mb. Shouldn't it have
reduced in size?

Depends entirely on what it is you're trying to zip up.

Raw text for example compresses quite a lot. Something that's already
fairly well compressed, jpgs, gifs, mp3s etc generally don't compress at
all.

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[Richie NY]

Truth is most ISP's or webmails vary in what their
servers will allow when it comes to file sizes, here are
some approx examples;

Yahoo might be 2 Mb
MSN might be 2-4 Mb
AOL might be 2-4 Mb
My own high speed service allows up to 8Mb but thats' the
maximum.

Your best bey is P2P when sending a file that large P2P
meaning peer to peer and trust who you connect to.

You can use AIM from aol which has a file transfer
protocol FPT and you need to adjust the settings to allow
such receive and tarnsfer communications.

Netmeeting also works but you and the person you are
sending to need to have this all setup, it's not all that
difficult.

 

[Guest]

Oh ok. It is a Paint Shop Pro image. So, I just went
and merged the layers and it made the file small enough.
I guess if I want to zip these type of files, with layers
intact, I need to look into getting some type of zip
program.

Thank you for your very prompt reply.

Mary

 

[David Hollway [MVP]]

I have a 20.7 mb file I am trying to email. It is too
big for my email program. I created a zipped folder in
Windows XP. I dragged the file into the zipped folder.
The zipped folder is still 20.7 mb. Shouldn't it have
reduced in size?

Mary,

Only certain file types can be compressed. If the file is compressed to
begin with, then it's unlikely that zipping it (which is a relatively
inefficient compression algorithm) will further reduce its size.

Examples of files that don't compress well are: JPEG and GIF pictures and
MPEG videos. These are already compressed by their respective file formats.
File types that do compress well include: plain text, some .BMP images, and
Office .doc / .xls / .ppt files.

If your 20.7MB file won't compress further, then you may have to split it
into smaller chunks to e-mail it. Various tools exist on the web to do
this - try googling for "windows file splitter free".

Hope this helps.

 

[Paul Smith]

Oh ok. It is a Paint Shop Pro image. So, I just went
and merged the layers and it made the file small enough.
I guess if I want to zip these type of files, with layers
intact, I need to look into getting some type of zip
program.

Yeah PSP images are natively compressed as much as they can be.

I use Winzip and Winrar and neither make any worthwhile difference.

The only real solution would be to save as a .JPEG for example, but it's a
'lossy' format meaning that it throws data away to save space, and it won't
support different layers, so if it's critical the image be bit-for-bit
identical then it's not an option. Although for most general use it's in
acceptable limits, with PSP you can change how much data is thrown away when
saving. You can usually get a .JPEG to 25% the size of a .PSP without too
much noticeable loss. Or you can try saving each layer separately and
sending, and putting them back together at the other end!

As for transferring files too big for e-mail, try what Richie suggested use
IM software, Windows XP comes with 'Windows Messenger' built in for example,
so as long as you are both online at the same time you can transfer using
that.

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[Paul Smith]

Not with NTFS...sorry

Firstly please don't post in HTML.

Secondly you're wrong about NTFS making any difference to this at all.

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[hin87_at_yahoo.com]

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:45:06 -0700, "Mary Kosanke"

Try using WinRar to zip up your files. That program have the option
of splitting the files into 1.44MB .

 

[Adam Turner]

Not with NTFS...sorry
Adam Turner


I have a 20.7 mb file I am trying to email. It is too
big for my email program. I created a zipped folder in
Windows XP. I dragged the file into the zipped folder.
The zipped folder is still 20.7 mb. Shouldn't it have
reduced in size?

Thanks,

Mary Kosanke

 

[Adam Turner]

Really? Keep reading.
Adam Turner

Not with NTFS...sorry

Firstly please don't post in HTML.

Secondly you're wrong about NTFS making any difference to this at all.

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Yeovil, UK.
http://www.smirnov.demon.co.uk/
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[Richard Urban]

NTFS has NO bearing on .zip files, or their transmission. Are you implying
that it does?

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Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

Really? Keep reading.
Adam Turner
Not with NTFS...sorry

Firstly please don't post in HTML.

Secondly you're wrong about NTFS making any difference to this at all.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://www.smirnov.demon.co.uk/
http://www.doom3portal.com/ A Doom 3 fansite.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/articles/sp2preview.htm Service Pack 2 is coming!

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[Alex Nichol]

I have a 20.7 mb file I am trying to email. It is too
big for my email program. I created a zipped folder in
Windows XP. I dragged the file into the zipped folder.
The zipped folder is still 20.7 mb. Shouldn't it have
reduced in size?

Such a file is likely to be something like an mpg or wav movie, a mp3
music file or a jpg picture. These are already highly compressed, and
trying to compress more may even make them bigger