Win3x Apps Bundled With Windows XP

[OShah]

Can anyone name a 16-bit application (an NE application) that's available in
all Windows XP installations

XP comes with edit.com for testing DOS. Does it have an edit.com equivalent
for Win3.x? At first I thought of Progman.exe, but that's been removed from
SP2. Any others?

This is so I can test the 16-bit subsystem.

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oshah
Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe

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[Feng Mao]

Hi Oshah,

Thank you for posting here!

Actually, I can find Progman.exe in C:\Windows\System32 and I hope that it
can fulfill your request.

Also, you may have a try to copy the Edit.com from Win3.x to Windows XP and
have a try to see if it can be run under the 16-bit subsystem of Windows XP.

You may make its compatibility mode to Windows 95 in the Compatibility tab
of its Properties.

Have a nice day!

Thanks & Regards,

Feng Mao [MSFT], MCSE
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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| Can anyone name a 16-bit application (an NE application) that's available
in
| all Windows XP installations
|
| XP comes with edit.com for testing DOS. Does it have an edit.com
equivalent
| for Win3.x? At first I thought of Progman.exe, but that's been removed
from
| SP2. Any others?
|
| This is so I can test the 16-bit subsystem.
|
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| oshah
| Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
| -> Do not report errors for these programs:
|
| Acrobat.exe
| waol.exe
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|

 

[OShah]

(e-mail address removed) (Feng Mao (MSFT)) wrote in

Actually, I can find Progman.exe in C:\Windows\System32 and I hope that
it can fulfill your request.

Also, you may have a try to copy the Edit.com from Win3.x to Windows XP
and have a try to see if it can be run under the 16-bit subsystem of
Windows XP.

You may make its compatibility mode to Windows 95 in the Compatibility
tab of its Properties.

Got One! It was Drwatson.exe. This is a 16-bit NE application which
requires the 16-bit subsystem to run. So now I can use edit.com to test
the DOS subsystem and Drwatson.exe to test the 16-bit Windows subsystem.
And more importantly, both files are available in every installation of
Windows XP.

I just took a look at Progman, this is a 32-bit PE executable (I wanted 16
bit executables), so I can't use this file. And in SP2, it no longer does
anything (It was stubbed away).

However, Drwatson.exe will do fine.

Thanks!




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oshah
Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe

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[Feng Mao]

Dear Partner,

Thank you for your reply and the detailed additional feedback on how you
were successful in resolving this issue. This information has been added to
Microsoft's database. Your solution will benefit many other users, and we
really value having you as a Microsoft customer.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to
contact us. It is always our pleasure to be of assistance.

Have a nice day!

Thanks & Regards,

Feng Mao [MSFT], MCSE
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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| Subject: RE: Win3x Apps Bundled With Windows XP
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| (e-mail address removed) (Feng Mao (MSFT)) wrote in
| |
| >
| > Actually, I can find Progman.exe in C:\Windows\System32 and I hope that
| > it can fulfill your request.
| >
| > Also, you may have a try to copy the Edit.com from Win3.x to Windows XP
| > and have a try to see if it can be run under the 16-bit subsystem of
| > Windows XP.
| >
| > You may make its compatibility mode to Windows 95 in the Compatibility
| > tab of its Properties.
| >
| >
|
| Got One! It was Drwatson.exe. This is a 16-bit NE application which
| requires the 16-bit subsystem to run. So now I can use edit.com to test
| the DOS subsystem and Drwatson.exe to test the 16-bit Windows subsystem.
| And more importantly, both files are available in every installation of
| Windows XP.
|
| I just took a look at Progman, this is a 32-bit PE executable (I wanted
16
| bit executables), so I can't use this file. And in SP2, it no longer does
| anything (It was stubbed away).
|
| However, Drwatson.exe will do fine.
|
| Thanks!
|
|
|
|
| --
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| oshah
| Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
| -> Do not report errors for these programs:
|
| Acrobat.exe
| waol.exe
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|

 

[Jim Carlock]

You can try edlin.exe as well for DOS stuff.

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(e-mail address removed) (Feng Mao (MSFT)) wrote in

Actually, I can find Progman.exe in C:\Windows\System32 and I hope that
it can fulfill your request.

Also, you may have a try to copy the Edit.com from Win3.x to Windows XP
and have a try to see if it can be run under the 16-bit subsystem of
Windows XP.

You may make its compatibility mode to Windows 95 in the Compatibility
tab of its Properties.

Got One! It was Drwatson.exe. This is a 16-bit NE application which
requires the 16-bit subsystem to run. So now I can use edit.com to test
the DOS subsystem and Drwatson.exe to test the 16-bit Windows subsystem.
And more importantly, both files are available in every installation of
Windows XP.

I just took a look at Progman, this is a 32-bit PE executable (I wanted 16
bit executables), so I can't use this file. And in SP2, it no longer does
anything (It was stubbed away).

However, Drwatson.exe will do fine.

Thanks!




--
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oshah
Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe

------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Jim Carlock]

Actually, I can find Progman.exe in C:\Windows\System32
and I hope that it can fulfill your request.

To Feng Mao,

Have you tried progman.exe ? I'm asking because when I
type in C:\Windows\System32\progman.exe, nothing occurs.

I'm running on XP SP2. No events show up in EventVwr.exe.

@echo off
call C:\WINDOWS\System32\progman.exe
echo.
echo %errorlevel%
echo.

Returns 0 for the errorlevel. I extracted a second copy from
the SP2 download. And permissions were set to full control
on that second copy.

Just wondering if you can get a copy of it run on your machine.

 

[OShah]

To Feng Mao,

Have you tried progman.exe ? I'm asking because when I
type in C:\Windows\System32\progman.exe, nothing occurs.

I'm running on XP SP2. No events show up in EventVwr.exe.

@echo off
call C:\WINDOWS\System32\progman.exe
echo.
echo %errorlevel%
echo.

Returns 0 for the errorlevel. I extracted a second copy from
the SP2 download. And permissions were set to full control
on that second copy.

Just wondering if you can get a copy of it run on your machine.

In XP SP2, the old program manager was removed from XP, to be replaced
with a pure stub. See here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/04august18.mspx

It was most likely removed for security (redundancy) reasons. Microsoft
retained the executable for compatibility but #if 0-ed (commented) the
entire source out. To solution: get the progman.exe from SP1.



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oshah
Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe

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[Jim Carlock]

I found that link after I posted the question.

Were you making a statement about the Error Reporting
for AOL and Acrobat or question?

Just to update you guys, about progman.exe, there is no
progman.exe in XPSP1a. I deleted my copy of XPSP1
(version other than 1a) so I can't comment on that. But I did
find the original progman.exe in:

$NtServicePackUninstall$

Which is the folder created by SP2 as I did not install SP1
prior to installing SP2.

Thanks much.

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Post replies to newsgroup.

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To Feng Mao,

Have you tried progman.exe ? I'm asking because when I
type in C:\Windows\System32\progman.exe, nothing occurs.

I'm running on XP SP2. No events show up in EventVwr.exe.

@echo off
call C:\WINDOWS\System32\progman.exe
echo.
echo %errorlevel%
echo.

Returns 0 for the errorlevel. I extracted a second copy from
the SP2 download. And permissions were set to full control
on that second copy.

Just wondering if you can get a copy of it run on your machine.

In XP SP2, the old program manager was removed from XP, to be replaced
with a pure stub. See here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/04august18.mspx

It was most likely removed for security (redundancy) reasons. Microsoft
retained the executable for compatibility but #if 0-ed (commented) the
entire source out. To solution: get the progman.exe from SP1.
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oshah

Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe
------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[OShah]

Were you making a statement about the Error Reporting
for AOL and Acrobat or question?

OT:

My sig is a statement to AOL and Acrobat (mostly for AOL). I'm just
highlighting the innovative approach that AOL takes to error handling.
Trash the system, then don't let Windows tell the user about it.

That way, Windows won't tell the user to switch ISP and ditch AOL! Must be
one of their schemes to cling onto their remaining members!

Me, I've all but ditched AOL (I uninstalled, but it left this entry on my
system!).

It's not a question!




Thanks for the note about Progman.exe (it's not in xpsp1 either).


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------------------------------------------------------------------------
oshah
Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Error Reporting -> Choose Programs
-> Do not report errors for these programs:

Acrobat.exe
waol.exe

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