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Message: [QUOTE="VanguardLH, post: 14233154"] Outlook 2013 x64 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 For some folders (not all), I wanted to use the Conversations view. I also want messages to be sorted in ascending order (oldest to newest) so I could see the posts in the order they were received and read them in the order they were received or sent. I'm enabled the Classic Indented view since I want some assemblance albeit poor showing the hierarchy of the e-mails (like you see in a newsreader). What I see for a conversation is something like: <subject> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM <sender> @ 8/31/2014 7:38 PM #1 __ <sender> @ 9/1/2014 7:56 PM | __ #3 __ <me> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM | | |__ #4 <me> @ 8/31/2014 8:01 PM |__ #2 __| The entire conversation is sorted descending relative to other conversations but messages within a conversation are not in descending order. I expected the following order: <subject> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM <sender> @ 8/31/2014 7:38 PM #1 __ <me> @ 8/31/2014 8:01 PM |__ #2 __ <sender> @ 9/1/2014 7:56 PM |__ #3 __ <me> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM |__ #4 No one else is yet involved in this conversation so the identing should be sequential; i.e., each reply should be at another indented level. I have other conversation where I responded twice to the sender without a subsequent reply from the sender and the ordering is still wrong: my 2nd reply to the sender at a later time is listed before my earlier reply to the same e-mail by the sender. If I disable the Classic Indenting view option, yes, then the e-mail are sorted correctly; however, the threading gets flattened. This is similar to how you can have threading in a newsreader but a discussion is flattened when looking at Microsoft's Answers forums (or any forum, for that matter). You can't tell you said what to whom because it's all flat. Without Classic Indenting, the conversation is shown like the expected sample above, or as: <subject> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM <sender> @ 8/31/2014 7:38 PM #1 __ <me> @ 8/31/2014 8:01 PM |__ #2 __ <sender> @ 9/1/2014 7:56 PM |__ #3 __ <me> @ 9/2/2014 1:01 AM |__ #4 If someone replies to other than the last e-mail they received, you can't tell which is the parent post when the conversation is flattened. The sort order is only applied in arranging the conversations relative to each other but is not effected on the messages within a conversation. How do I get messages within a conversation to get sorted in the order received with a threading view that will show me who replied to whom in chronological order? How would I edit the current view (Hide Messages Marked for Deletion) to clone it to a new view so that I'd have the conversations grouping with messages within a conversation shown in the order they were received or sent along with the indentation to visually aid in seeing the hiearchy of which are the parent messages (i.e., to see the threading)? Another coincidental query is can I save the modified view into a new view name to keep from modifying the original view (i.e., I want to edit a current view but save it to a new view)? Or am I stuck creating a new view and try to make it similar to the current view and then modify the new view to get conversational threading and indentation to sort correctly? In addition, I don't want conversations grouped by week or month. I don't want to see a group of conversation for "3 weeks ago", another group of conversations for "1 week ago", and yet another group of conversations for "today". I don't want them grouped by date boundaries but I do want the messages as conversations. Is the date grouping due to selecting the Conversations view? Does that mean I have to modify the view rather than click on some ribbon item? Sorting doesn't work for the messages within a conversation if the Classic View mode is enabled. Messages are sorted correctly when NOT using the Classic View mode but that view is flattened which means no easy way to determine who said what to whom if something replies to an earlier message. After Microsoft removed the vertical gridlines showing the threading of messages in a conversation, the only remaining visible cue is indentation. Yet Microsoft seems that have phucked up sorting of messages *within* a conversation when Classic Indent view is used. Take away and screw up what's left. [/QUOTE]

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