How to retrieve 98SE .qic files in XP?

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Steve Young

Phew, finally, the last of Windows 98 here in the household, as a 400Mhz
K6 bit the dust.

Fortunately, all our Money, picture files, and personal docs are backed up
regularly to other networked machines, all which are now XP. So we
shouldn't miss a step.

I found how to install the Backup app in XP Home and have it running
correctly. I would like to retrieve all the data we so thoughtfully and
carefully saved, but I can't get backup to recognize the files. Can
someone help me see these files, so I can deposit them into their correct
folders? We have 10 years of important computing wrapped up in the backup,
which was double backed to 2 different hard drives, just in case. :)

Steve Young
 
Steve Young said:
Phew, finally, the last of Windows 98 here in the household, as a 400Mhz
K6 bit the dust.

Fortunately, all our Money, picture files, and personal docs are backed up
regularly to other networked machines, all which are now XP. So we
shouldn't miss a step.

I found how to install the Backup app in XP Home and have it running
correctly. I would like to retrieve all the data we so thoughtfully and
carefully saved, but I can't get backup to recognize the files. Can
someone help me see these files, so I can deposit them into their correct
folders? We have 10 years of important computing wrapped up in the backup,
which was double backed to 2 different hard drives, just in case. :)

Steve Young

Steve,

see
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305381
The above result was found by using the Search option at
support.microsoft.com for "Windows XP" QIC


You will need to purchase some Windows XP compatible third party software.

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| Phew, finally, the last of Windows 98 here in the household, as a 400Mhz
| K6 bit the dust.
|
| Fortunately, all our Money, picture files, and personal docs are backed up
| regularly to other networked machines, all which are now XP. So we
| shouldn't miss a step.
|
| I found how to install the Backup app in XP Home and have it running
| correctly. I would like to retrieve all the data we so thoughtfully and
| carefully saved, but I can't get backup to recognize the files. Can
| someone help me see these files, so I can deposit them into their correct
| folders? We have 10 years of important computing wrapped up in the backup,
| which was double backed to 2 different hard drives, just in case. :)
|
| Steve Young
 
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Steve Young said:
Phew, finally, the last of Windows 98 here in the household, as
a
400Mhz K6 bit the dust.

Fortunately, all our Money, picture files, and personal docs
are
backed up regularly to other networked machines, all which are
now
XP. So we shouldn't miss a step.

I found how to install the Backup app in XP Home and have it
running
correctly. I would like to retrieve all the data we so
thoughtfully
and carefully saved, but I can't get backup to recognize the
files.
Can someone help me see these files, so I can deposit them into
their
correct folders? We have 10 years of important computing
wrapped up
in the backup, which was double backed to 2 different hard
drives,
just in case. :)


The backup programs in Windows 98 and XP are not compatible with
each other, so you can't directly do what you want. You have two
alternatives:

1. Read your backup on another Windows 98 machine, and copy the
files to CDs (in normal format, not backup format), which can be
read on your XP machine.

2. On Windows XP, try "BackUp My PC."
http://www.stompinc.com/bump/bump-retail.phtml?stp
I understand that this will read your Windows 98 backups,
although I have no personal experience with it.
 
Steve said:
Phew, finally, the last of Windows 98 here in the household, as a
400Mhz K6 bit the dust.

Fortunately, all our Money, picture files, and personal docs are
backed up regularly to other networked machines, all which are now
XP. So we shouldn't miss a step.

I found how to install the Backup app in XP Home and have it running
correctly. I would like to retrieve all the data we so thoughtfully
and carefully saved, but I can't get backup to recognize the files.
Can someone help me see these files, so I can deposit them into
their
correct folders? We have 10 years of important computing wrapped up
in the backup, which was double backed to 2 different hard drives,
just in case. :)
Steve Young


If you've used Win9x's native backup utility to create *.qic
files, I'm afraid you'll need to restore those files on a Win98
machine prior to transfer to the WinXP machine. As they've always
been since the days of Win95 and WinNT, the two back up file formats
are completely incompatible. Another possible solution would be to
purchase a 3rd party backup utility that can read and convert the
*.qic file format; I've heard that Veritas makes such a product.

WinNT_2K Backup Does Not Recognize Win9x Backup Files
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q155979

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Download the 30-day trial of Microsoft Virtual PC. Create a 98
Virtual Machine and do your necessary recovery from that. You
can then use the Virtual networking to share the files directly back
into your XP install.
This assumes you have the original 98 install CD. Otherwise, just
locate a friend or neighbor who still runs 98.
 
Carey Frisch said:
Cannot Restore Backups That You Created in Windows 95, Windows 98,
or Windows ME with the Windows XP Ntbackup Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305381&Product=winxp

you gotta be sh*tin me!? Here I've done the 'right' thing for years on
end and find I'm in the same boat as if I had done nothing at all :(

Oh my! I don't have another non XP machine. The files are 2+ gigs big, so
I can't easily work with CDs. I do have a Benq 822A DVD burner, with Nero
6x, but I haven't yet found how to store Explorer 'seeable' files on DVDs,
(just in case I happen to find someone with Win98 and a DVD player).

I appreciate everyone's suggestions here and will study the
recommendations more thoroughly, if push comes to shove. I think I'll use
the time honored solution when dealing with Windows, and that is, cross my
fingers. Cross my fingers and hope the hard drive is still alive in the
dead machine. Move it to an XP machine and see if I have files. At the
count of 3, all cross your fingers please :) Thank you!

Now what's this about SATA and IDE!? ;)

Steve Young

PS Windows is just one black hole after another :(
 
Steve Young said:
you gotta be sh*tin me!? Here I've done the 'right' thing for years on
end and find I'm in the same boat as if I had done nothing at all :(

Oh my! I don't have another non XP machine. The files are 2+ gigs big, so
I can't easily work with CDs. I do have a Benq 822A DVD burner, with Nero
6x, but I haven't yet found how to store Explorer 'seeable' files on DVDs,
(just in case I happen to find someone with Win98 and a DVD player).

I appreciate everyone's suggestions here and will study the
recommendations more thoroughly, if push comes to shove. I think I'll use
the time honored solution when dealing with Windows, and that is, cross my
fingers. Cross my fingers and hope the hard drive is still alive in the
dead machine. Move it to an XP machine and see if I have files. At the
count of 3, all cross your fingers please :) Thank you!

Now what's this about SATA and IDE!? ;)

Steve Young

PS Windows is just one black hole after another :(

Backups are generally meant as a way to restore the files back to the same
program, not as a means to transfer the data to a different (or in this
case, a different operating system). So your Win98 backups would restore
easily on Win98, but WinXP doesn't have the same backup program. Same
problem exists with programs that do "backups" of their files. You have to
have the program that will do the "restore" to access the data whereas you
might be able to access the files with a different program if it hadn't been
backed up but just copied the files intact.

I stay away from any sort of "backup" program for that reason and also
because they tend to take all of the files and compress them into one backup
file, which means that if that one file gets corrupted, you lose everything.

I prefer to copy whatever data I have, in the same format, to whatever
storage media I'm using. That way the data is easily readable, and I can
pick and choose what I want to retrieve.

This probably isn't much help now, but it's something to consider for the
future. You'll surely find a way to retrieve those old documents as Windows
98 isn't that old, and others have given you some good suggestions.
 
D.Currie said:
Backups are generally meant as a way to restore the files back to the
same program, not as a means to transfer the data to a different (or in
this case, a different operating system). So your Win98 backups would
restore easily on Win98, but WinXP doesn't have the same backup program.
Same problem exists with programs that do "backups" of their files. You
have to have the program that will do the "restore" to access the data
whereas you might be able to access the files with a different program
if it hadn't been backed up but just copied the files intact.

To some extent I agree, but the issue would be moot if XP backup would
also read their earlier .qic format. (That's what Outlook Express can do
with earlier messages). That's what I expected, as I no longer rely on it
to restore the operating system to a bootable condition with these
backups. Considering all the updates and service packs, I've found this to
be virtually impossible. And don't get me started on the false hopes of
XP's Automatic Recovery. That is *seriously* broken. I wasted 2 days of
my life when it didn't work as advertised. All was noted in an exchange
here some 6 months or so ago. This is why I buy only the XP Home
Edition now.
I stay away from any sort of "backup" program for that reason and also
because they tend to take all of the files and compress them into one
backup file, which means that if that one file gets corrupted, you lose
everything.

I haven't encountered a corrupted file in years, though the possibility
certainly exists. (I *always* verify a backup).
I prefer to copy whatever data I have, in the same format, to whatever
storage media I'm using. That way the data is easily readable, and I can
pick and choose what I want to retrieve.
This probably isn't much help now, but it's something to consider for
the future. You'll surely find a way to retrieve those old documents as
Windows 98 isn't that old, and others have given you some good
suggestions.

Your advice seems good. This all worked well when the 4 machines here
were Windows 98. The most critical machine is the last to go. Saving
the files directly to another drive, as you suggest, is the safest way,
but it becomes too cumbersome to pick out the critical folders each time
and not overlook an address book or some such. It's also made more
difficult, because a couple of the users aren't regular backers under this
scenario. (Too much work :( they just want to click a button and be done
with it.

Fortunately, I've had enough experience with Windows Back-up to know, one
odd computer is odd man out, so I've backed the most critical stuff as
straight up copies. Secondly though, I have good news, in that the drive
in the dead machine did in fact come alive in another machine, so I have
files without the putzing, or at least the worst kinda putzing.

*Thanks* to all who replied

Steve Young

PS A 'life saver' I've learned along the way, is to clone a new C install
to either the 2nd hard drive or to one of those small drives before it
hits the shelf. If it's the D drive, one can boot from either, as the
machine is started. Then, build everything on C and copy back-up, (non-op
system), data to D. I do NOT change anything to the D boot/system
portion, but use it as a static save of when it was best, which allows me
to boot a machine, even if one hard drive goes dead.
 
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