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Message: [QUOTE="Craig Lister, post: 14060452"] Thanks! That's some great info there. It's quite a few new things being piled on at once, so what I can maybe start off with is a WinForms Entity Framework application. So, using the Entity Framewok, but remove the WebServic requirement for now. Split it into a nice simple: UI MVP (??) service layer BLL DAL EF model Do I need the MVP at the moment? I'm confused how that fits in right now.Or is that what we're using to pass the entity objects up and down the layers? With this architecture, would the UI ever directly access the EF Model? Or any of it's objects? For exmple, would the UI have to have a reference (using) for the EF Model? I'm thinking it must, because when I need to set the value of a label, for example, I would need to do something like: myEditBox.Text = MyEntityObject.ValueToDisplay; [/QUOTE]