Any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root partition using Ghost 9, or any similar backup sys

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Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Ghost 9 is not anything close to the same product that Ghost 2003 was,
it's a different vendors product, one that I personally didn't like in the
early days.
Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

I'm curious about your reason for switching from 2003 to 9?
 
Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
I would image the partition with Ghost 9.0 installed using 2003 (PQI) so you
can restore that one with the floppies and use Ghost 9.0 (V2i) for any
further backups. That way, if worst comes to worst, you can always resore to
that image and then use Ghost 9.0 to restore the others. I have restored with
Ghost 9.0 many, many times without a single problem. Hope this helps.
 
We use PowerQuest Drive Image 7 here in the shop when a hard drive is failing
and we need to transfer its contents to a new hard drive. As long as the hard
drive is not too far gone, it works well. We then install the new h/d, boot
up the system and it works.

PowerQuest was aquired by Symantec (maker of Ghost) and it looks like they
have absorbed Drive Image into Ghost v9 and above. You can probably still
find Drive Image 7 on the net, for less than what Ghost costs.
 
Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
=================================
I have used DriveImage (PowerQuest) and TrueImage (Acronis)
extensively and successfully. However, I create all images in "off-line"
mode, never while Windows is active.
 
Juan said:
Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

I have and currently do use Drive Image 7, which is what Ghost 9.0 is
based on, to make an image from within windows. I have used it to
restore all my drives in sequence with no problems. Unfortunately I
think Ghost 9 includes product activation though on the good side it
does have some improvements over DI 7 allowing incremental images. But
in any event DI 7 has worked fine for me.
 
I restore root/system partitions all the time from images that have been
created using Ghost 9.0.

I have never had any problems.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
Product activation is nothing like in Windows XP or Symantec products.

With Ghost 9.0 the whole process stays on your computer. You can even do it
while you have your internet connection deactivated. It is NOT a problem at
all.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
What do you mean for "off line mode"? Do you boot in "safe mode" to
do your backups?

Pegasus \(MVP\) said:
Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
=================================
I have used DriveImage (PowerQuest) and TrueImage (Acronis)
extensively and successfully. However, I create all images in "off-line"
mode, never while Windows is active.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
Dear Richard, do you take any special care to do your backups, like to
boot Windows in "safe mode", or to stop any process you can stop it,
before to backup your root partition? Or simply you do your backup
while you are working with your computer?

Richard Urban said:
I restore root/system partitions all the time from images that have been
created using Ghost 9.0.

I have never had any problems.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
The reason? I converted all my partitions to NTFS.

Leythos said:
Ghost 9 is not anything close to the same product that Ghost 2003 was,
it's a different vendors product, one that I personally didn't like in the
early days.


I'm curious about your reason for switching from 2003 to 9?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
No. With DriveImage I use a Win98 boot disk, then I run the
DriveImage DOS-based program. With TrueImage I use the
inbuilt tool to burn a boot CD, then boot the PC with that
CD.


What do you mean for "off line mode"? Do you boot in "safe mode" to
do your backups?

Pegasus \(MVP\) said:
Dear friends:

I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

Do you have any *real* experience in *restoring* an NTFS root
partition from Ghost 9 images?

Did you have any problem with any application after the restore
process? What happened with applications, or processes, that were
running during the backup process?

Was the old MsDos Ghost 2003 more reliable as a result of its "static"
backup process?

Any hint?

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
=================================
I have used DriveImage (PowerQuest) and TrueImage (Acronis)
extensively and successfully. However, I create all images in "off-line"
mode, never while Windows is active.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
So, you *never* run your Operating System from the *same* partition
that you are doing the backup, am I right?

Do all of the other friends that use Ghost 9 use the same procedure?

Pegasus \(MVP\) said:
No. With DriveImage I use a Win98 boot disk, then I run the
DriveImage DOS-based program. With TrueImage I use the
inbuilt tool to burn a boot CD, then boot the PC with that
CD.


What do you mean for "off line mode"? Do you boot in "safe mode" to
do your backups?



Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
Hi Juan,

I take no special precautions when I perform my backups. I do my image
restores a bit differently than most though.

I have my main computer set up to dual boot between Windows XP and Windows
2000.
I have Ghost 9.0 (updated) installed on both sides (I have 2 legal copies of
Ghost).

When I want to perform an image restore on Windows XP, I will reboot into
Windows 2000 and do the restore from there. If I want to restore Windows
2000, I restore it from
within Windows XP.

I thought that as long as I was dual booting, and both operating systems
supported Ghost 9, that I would do it this way. If I have to restore Windows
XP it takes me about 6-7 minutes, including the reboots. If I boot up using
the Ghost CD it takes me about 3-4 minutes to get into the CD's operating
system - then another 4-5 minutes to do the restore - then another 60 to 90
seconds to boot back into Windows XP

My way is faster.


--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


Dear Richard, do you take any special care to do your backups, like to
boot Windows in "safe mode", or to stop any process you can stop it,
before to backup your root partition? Or simply you do your backup
while you are working with your computer?

Richard Urban said:
I restore root/system partitions all the time from images that have been
created using Ghost 9.0.

I have never had any problems.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
Correct.


So, you *never* run your Operating System from the *same* partition
that you are doing the backup, am I right?

Do all of the other friends that use Ghost 9 use the same procedure?

Pegasus \(MVP\) said:
No. With DriveImage I use a Win98 boot disk, then I run the
DriveImage DOS-based program. With TrueImage I use the
inbuilt tool to burn a boot CD, then boot the PC with that
CD.


What do you mean for "off line mode"? Do you boot in "safe mode" to
do your backups?



Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
 
Juan said:
I am very skeptic about the reliability of the new, pure Windows
partition imaging software, like Ghost 9.0 and others.

Now, I am very happy doing a backup every month of my computer using
Ghost 9. But, can I trust on it, or the old MsDos based partition
imaging software, like Ghost 2003 and others, were more reliable?

I have not tried Ghost (And avoid all Symantec software). What I use
is Image for Windows - $27 shareware from www.bootitng.com. With that I
back up my system partition to a second hard drive regularly, and have
several times restored it after doing experimental work and wanting a
return to a fully known state. I actually have a second system, dual
booted, used if I want to do the restore, but there is an accompanying
Image for DOS that will do it after booting a DOS floppy. It has never
given me trouble (and it also backs up to DVD sets or external
USB/Firewire drives)
 
Dear Richard, do you take any special care to do your backups, like to
boot Windows in "safe mode", or to stop any process you can stop it,
before to backup your root partition? Or simply you do your backup
while you are working with your computer?



Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

I run Acronis in XP to backup my OS partition and have restored a few
times (LAN or internal disk-disk). YMMV if you use USB-connected
devices or burnable CD/DVD media.

I've been doing system-level OS backups for mumble decades
and out of habit I keep application activity to a minimum
when a backup is running. These days it means that my POP email
is set to d/l only when I hit the button, so I know my email
folders are not being modified during a backup.

It's possible to back up a running windows OS correctly. I've used
ntbackup.exe to do full backups to tape for more than 10 years on
servers and done enough bare iron restores that I can't count them.
Each server applcation such as Oracle, has it's own backup strategy
and it has to be factored into your overall backup strategy.

test test test.

These days IMO most "failures" of PC backup tools are because the user
didn't try one test restore, or doesn't do readback verification of
the media frequently.

http://www.taobackup.com/
 
Version 9.02.3981

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 

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