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Message: [QUOTE="joebob, post: 10510510"] I don't think you know what you're talking about. I have been selling Dell to my customers for years. When Windows 2000 was released, I was able to sell OptiPlexes to my customers for nearly a year with Windows 98 pre-installed (many apps were not ready for Win2K in the business environment). When XP came out, it was the same. Dell will sell computers with either operating system pre-installed until February 2008. Dell is not desperate to sell computers. The huge number of PCs sold by HP and Dell makes the numbers difference between them insignificant. Sure, it would be nice to be the "leader", but being second means you're still selling huge numbers of computers around the world. So, buy an HP. Then when a part dies under warranty, see if they have the part delivered and installed by an HP technician the next day before noon. -- Dave [/QUOTE]