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Guest
Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows vista
or service pack?
or service pack?
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Rick Rogers
Hi,
There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating its
considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first SP may
follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating its
considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first SP may
follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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Richard G. Harper
When it is ready.
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Shane Nokes
Wrong.
The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
That's been stated over and over again.
Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting
The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
That's been stated over and over again.
Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting
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Rick Rogers
What's said over and over and what actually happens are often two different
things.
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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
things.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Shane Nokes said:Wrong.
The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
That's been stated over and over again.
Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting
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Lang Murphy
Vista SP1 will not appear prior to Q3-07. Or so I've been told...
Lang
Lang
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Shane Nokes
This one isn't a question though.
The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some simple
reasons.
Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and will
be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time for
business and make rollouts less of a headache.
I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.
The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some simple
reasons.
Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and will
be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time for
business and make rollouts less of a headache.
I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.
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Rick Rogers
Hi Shane,
I know what was said, I just don't place a lot of stock in it. I also know
that many releases do not happen as predicted for any number of reasons, and
unscheduled delays are quite common (think: winfs). To say with absolute
certainty that this will happen as planned is not a bet I would make or
take.
And if I'm wrong, it's probably a good thing.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
I know what was said, I just don't place a lot of stock in it. I also know
that many releases do not happen as predicted for any number of reasons, and
unscheduled delays are quite common (think: winfs). To say with absolute
certainty that this will happen as planned is not a bet I would make or
take.
And if I'm wrong, it's probably a good thing.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Shane Nokes said:
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
I have heard that many times.
But, AFAIK it is a rumor, a seemingly good rumor, but a rumor just the same.
Please post the source for the statement you make as fact.
It is possible I missed the source.
But, AFAIK it is a rumor, a seemingly good rumor, but a rumor just the same.
Please post the source for the statement you make as fact.
It is possible I missed the source.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
What is the question is the source.
What is your source?
"That's been stated over and over again"
That is not a source and does not make it fact.
"this is solid info"
From where?
Who said it?
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What is your source?
"That's been stated over and over again"
That is not a source and does not make it fact.
"this is solid info"
From where?
Who said it?
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
Shane Nokes said:
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
BTW...
I believe this rumor to be true.
But since I have not seen any official source from within Microsoft verify
the information, I treat is as a rumor.
Quite regularly Microsoft gets blamed for missing a date when Microsoft made
no such commitment.
Rumors lead some to believe it to be fact and they then complain when
Microsoft missed something Microsoft never claimed to begin with.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
I believe this rumor to be true.
But since I have not seen any official source from within Microsoft verify
the information, I treat is as a rumor.
Quite regularly Microsoft gets blamed for missing a date when Microsoft made
no such commitment.
Rumors lead some to believe it to be fact and they then complain when
Microsoft missed something Microsoft never claimed to begin with.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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Shane Nokes
My source is actual team members from campus.
I live about an hour south of Redmond and I'm up there at least 3 or 4 times
a year.
This has been stated to me that they will release SP1 at the same time they
rollout the new server.
It's not something they plan on doing it is what will happen. Server will
only be released when they feel it is of high enough quality. By it's very
nature a server OS must be 100% rock solid. That codebase will then be used
to form the service pack.
So yes Fiji will be out this year at the same time as Server.
I can't name names in the public NG, but I will say one of the SDE in
Test/Shell guys is the one who told more than one of us about it while I was
up there for meetings.
I live about an hour south of Redmond and I'm up there at least 3 or 4 times
a year.
This has been stated to me that they will release SP1 at the same time they
rollout the new server.
It's not something they plan on doing it is what will happen. Server will
only be released when they feel it is of high enough quality. By it's very
nature a server OS must be 100% rock solid. That codebase will then be used
to form the service pack.
So yes Fiji will be out this year at the same time as Server.
I can't name names in the public NG, but I will say one of the SDE in
Test/Shell guys is the one who told more than one of us about it while I was
up there for meetings.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Without verifiable names etc it is hearsay.
Since I do not know your anonymous source, what you say has the validity of
a rumor to me.
And I have heard a lot of rumors.
When I get information directly from Microsoft or any other source about
anything for that matter, I do not expect others to take it as fact from me
if I an unwilling or unable to cite the specific source.
Without such a verifiable cite I do not take such information as fact.
Otherwise I would have had to do the same a few months ago when a person
claimed his high level contact at Microsoft said Vista would not be
publically released 30 January.
Of course we know that reliable source was all wrong.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
Since I do not know your anonymous source, what you say has the validity of
a rumor to me.
And I have heard a lot of rumors.
When I get information directly from Microsoft or any other source about
anything for that matter, I do not expect others to take it as fact from me
if I an unwilling or unable to cite the specific source.
Without such a verifiable cite I do not take such information as fact.
Otherwise I would have had to do the same a few months ago when a person
claimed his high level contact at Microsoft said Vista would not be
publically released 30 January.
Of course we know that reliable source was all wrong.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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Scott
Nobody knows but the estimates I've read indicate the end of 2007.
Google it.
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JJJones
Well, I guess that puts you solidly in the category of a 'Doubting Thomas'
or in your case, a doubting jupiter. By the way, I have a source for that
Doubting Thomas category in case you don't believe there is such a
monikor. Sheeesh! :- (
"Take the vast right wing, it's a helva lot better than the half-vast left
wing
bunch."
or in your case, a doubting jupiter. By the way, I have a source for that
Doubting Thomas category in case you don't believe there is such a
monikor. Sheeesh! :- (
"Take the vast right wing, it's a helva lot better than the half-vast left
wing
bunch."
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Scott
I prefer something in writing.
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be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
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BSchnur
It's not something they plan on doing it is what will happen. Server will
Presuming of course that, since the server OS must be '100% rock
solid' the shipping date for it doesn't slip. If it must '100% rock
solid', then they can't ship to a date, they ship to a validated code
status. In reality though, *NO* OS (including server OS from any
source) is 100% rock solid. If it was, the need for updates would be
eliminated (yeah I know security updates don't count).
Presuming of course that, since the server OS must be '100% rock
solid' the shipping date for it doesn't slip. If it must '100% rock
solid', then they can't ship to a date, they ship to a validated code
status. In reality though, *NO* OS (including server OS from any
source) is 100% rock solid. If it was, the need for updates would be
eliminated (yeah I know security updates don't count).
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Shane Nokes
Actually security updates do count.
By 100% rock solid you know that I mean 99.999999999999999%
So solid that it's really damned hard to take it down.
Either way they really do have somewhat of a time constraint.
As for Jupiter if I could feel free to name the specific employee I would,
but I honestly don't enjoy putting peoples livelihood's into jeopardy
By 100% rock solid you know that I mean 99.999999999999999%
So solid that it's really damned hard to take it down.
Either way they really do have somewhat of a time constraint.
As for Jupiter if I could feel free to name the specific employee I would,
but I honestly don't enjoy putting peoples livelihood's into jeopardy
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BSchnur
Actually security updates do count.
Well, I'd submit more like 99.9x solid -- but we're simply quibbling
Hence my inclination to drop a bunch of the trailing 9's.
Well, I'd submit more like 99.9x solid -- but we're simply quibbling
over the number of dollars dancing on a date. said:
Hence my inclination to drop a bunch of the trailing 9's.
Understood.As for Jupiter if I could feel free to name the specific employee I would,
but I honestly don't enjoy putting peoples livelihood's into jeopardy