What's the best rotation of AV programs for Windows 7? Bestfreewares? Best paid?

[RayLopez99]

These AV programs have lots of overlap and no clear winner, save perhaps the paid versions of Norton. With that in mind, what's the best free rotation? Or even paid rotation for AV? That is, two forms of protection. I've also tried a online scanner but can't seem to find the link anymore (they come and go every year it seems, ebbing and flowing based on popularity, andif they become too popular they morph to a paid version).

I say something like MSFT Security Essentials, the default Windows 7 Firewall, then on occasion run freeware Malwarebytes Anti-Malware program and that's good enough. I don't mind paying however, but hesitate to get Norton since historically it locks your machine into just the Norton family of products, which used to suck but now they have pretty good protection.

Just today in fact MSFT SE caught a virus that was pretending to be a porn video.

Anybody else? Should I rotate various AV programs, and, if so, which? TheKaspersky "free" Linux disc doesn't seem to work anymore on my machine,andI can't find the link to the latest one, and besides I've heard that you don't need to boot into Linux anymore from the CD but can do a 'stay within W7' scan.

On another machine I use Panda Cloud freeware and it seems to work with older machines running XP pretty nicely.

RL

 

[Dustin]

I say something like MSFT Security Essentials, the default Windows 7
Firewall, then on occasion run freeware Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
program and that's good enough. I don't mind paying however, but

Whatever you think is best will be fine.

 

[RayLopez99]

Whatever you think is best will be fine.

Really? So they are all the same then.

RL

 

[Dustin]

Really? So they are all the same then.

RL

Ray,

I'm an idiot remember? whatever you think is the best way you should go.
If you think they're all the same, then they are.

 

[RayLopez99]

I'm an idiot remember? whatever you think is the best way you should go.
If you think they're all the same, then they are.


--

I value your opinion, even as an idiot. so please let us know your favorite protocol.

RL

 

[Dustin]

I value your opinion, even as an idiot. so please let us know your
favorite protocol.

I have no opinion to offer you other than what I already wrote. I told you
last time how it was going to be from here on out. I won't intentionally
help you out anymore. You can post all the questions you like, Nobodies
answering you anymore. If I don't, absolutely nobody will respond.

Ask more questions.


That's my opinion, as your official idiot.

 

[Dustin]

I value your opinion, even as an idiot. so please let us know your
favorite protocol.

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Have a nice day Ray. Maybe someone else will take the time to answer
questions since I said nobody would. [g] I recently pissed someone off
here, so they might for a bit just to spite me again. They're that much of
a pussy.

Later.

 

[RayLopez99]

I value your opinion, even as an idiot. so please let us know your
favorite protocol.

Message-ID: <XnsA071B841D8399HHI2948AJD832@no>

Have a nice day Ray. Maybe someone else will take the time to answer
questions since I said nobody would. [g] I recently pissed someone off
here, so they might for a bit just to spite me again. They're that much of
a pussy.

Oh c'mon. Tell me what you really think. Tell me what AV program you use and what protocol. Please?

RL

 

[Dustin]

On Friday, June 29, 2012 6:23:33 PM UTC-4, Dustin wrote:


I'm an idiot remember? whatever you think is the best way you
should go. If you think they're all the same, then they are.

Message-ID: <XnsA071B841D8399HHI2948AJD832@no>

Have a nice day Ray. Maybe someone else will take the time to answer
questions since I said nobody would. [g] I recently pissed someone
off here, so they might for a bit just to spite me again. They're
that much of a pussy.

Oh c'mon. Tell me what you really think. Tell me what AV program
you use and what protocol. Please?

RL

I'm just a lowly idiot Ray. My opinion has no value. I bow to your
superior expertise on the subject.

 

[RayLopez99]

I'm just a lowly idiot Ray. My opinion has no value. I bow to your
superior expertise on the subject.

Why are you thinking this way? You were the creme-de-la-creme of the criminal hacker world once! Don't be so down on yourself. Sure you're a bit rusty but you can still beat those LulzSec Kiddie scripters and I bet stay even toe-to-toe with those Stuxnet, Flame devs.

So who's protecting your PC Dustin? I want to lern from the master--I'm a nobody compared to you.

RL

 

[Virus Guy]

Tell me what AV program you use and what protocol. Please?

I didn't know that AV programs had "protocals".

The whole AV situation is a crock of shit, and has been for 5 to 7 years
now, ever since the rise of polymorphic malware.

The only thing an AV program is good for is that after an update, it
will detect the remnants of malware that got onto your system weeks or
months ago. Real-time detection is a joke.

You want to be secure while surfing the web?

Go back to using Windows 98se. Immune to all modern malware, exploits,
buffer and heap over-runs, etc.

 

[RayLopez99]

I didn't know that AV programs had "protocals".

The whole AV situation is a crock of shit, and has been for 5 to 7 years
now, ever since the rise of polymorphic malware.

Wait now...you are talking about malware that can morph. But the stem must surely be detectable--even if the "offspring" have a different signature.

The only thing an AV program is good for is that after an update, it
will detect the remnants of malware that got onto your system weeks or
months ago. Real-time detection is a joke.

Or days ago. You seem to now be concerned about "Zero Day" exploits, correct?

You want to be secure while surfing the web?

Go back to using Windows 98se. Immune to all modern malware, exploits,
buffer and heap over-runs, etc.

Or use Linux? Please.

Anybody else? Seems Virus Guy raised two good points: morphing malware is hard to spot (but it can be spotted) and there's no defense to Zero Day Attacks. We know that.

Dustbin? What say you?

RL

 

[Dustin]

Go back to using Windows 98se. Immune to all modern malware, exploits,
buffer and heap over-runs, etc.

That's been disproven already. The immune to all modern malware, by no
means is that true. Windows 9x has no problems running 32bit PE based
executables. Those don't have to be NT only specific to be malicious.
Win98se can't run the more secure IE; IE is literally it's html rendering
engine, it's vunerable there too.

You're speaking from your ass, you know that right?

 

[RayLopez99]

That's been disproven already. The immune to all modern malware, by no
means is that true. Windows 9x has no problems running 32bit PE based
executables. Those don't have to be NT only specific to be malicious.
Win98se can't run the more secure IE; IE is literally it's html rendering
engine, it's vunerable there too.

You're speaking from your ass, you know that right?

I thought you were going to not answer anybody? Good to see the old Dustin is back (insulting ignoramus with a journeyman's understanding of machine language type malware).

What virus checker you using old boy?

RL

 

[Dustin]

I thought you were going to not answer anybody? Good to see the old
Dustin is back (insulting ignoramus with a journeyman's understanding
of machine language type malware).

I said I wouldn't help you. I didn't say anything about answering other
questions.

What virus checker you using old boy?

See above and ponder on how long it takes before I give you a useful
answer. I'm sure you can figure it out.

 

[RayLopez99]

See above and ponder on how long it takes before I give you a useful
answer. I'm sure you can figure it out.

OK, I give up. How long?

RL

 

[Dustin]

OK, I give up. How long?

RL

Still pondering? [g]

 

[RayLopez99]

OK, I give up. How long?

RL

Still pondering? [g]

LOL I'm trolling you Dustin. It's all a big joke on you! I really could care less about whether you answer me or not.

Take care, my dimwitted friend,

RL

 

[Dustin]

OK, I give up. How long?

RL

Still pondering? [g]

LOL I'm trolling you Dustin. It's all a big joke on you! I
really could care less about whether you answer me or not.

Hey... Atleast you admit what you are and your usefulness to the froup
as a whole. Did you notice something spectacular with your trolling
tho? Nobody offers you... well, any advice anymore. Basically, when I
choose not to respond; you're talking to yourself here.

So... one must ask.. Who's really trolling who here?

Take care, my dimwitted friend,

Ahh, But Ray my dear dear friend; My systems are fine and secure. No
java worms be messing with me. You OTH, need all the help you can get.

 

[David_B]

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OK, I give up. How long?

RL

Still pondering? [g]

LOL I'm trolling you Dustin. It's all a big joke on you! I
really could care less about whether you answer me or not.

Hey... Atleast you admit what you are and your usefulness to the froup
as a whole. Did you notice something spectacular with your trolling
tho? Nobody offers you... well, any advice anymore. Basically, when I
choose not to respond; you're talking to yourself here.

So... one must ask.. Who's really trolling who here?

Take care, my dimwitted friend,

Ahh, But Ray my dear dear friend; My systems are fine and secure. No
java worms be messing with me. You OTH, need all the help you can get.

Do you agree with the advice given by the MVP here?

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ng-i-can/aba398ab-f90c-4b67-ac60-c1efb92d5ed0