What Freeware ebook is this?

H

Henk de Jong

Hi,
For some weeks now I see that a lot of people visit my site with the
help of an ebook. Netstat shows that those folks come to my site
through a link called "ebook/htoo.html". Does anyone know what ebook
this is and/or have a link to the site that provides such an ebook?

Thanks.

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
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'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
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Bebop & Rocksteady

For some weeks now I see that a lot of people visit my site with the
help of an ebook. Netstat shows that those folks come to my site
through a link called "ebook/htoo.html". Does anyone know what ebook
this is and/or have a link to the site that provides such an ebook?

Might be the FreewareArea FreewareBook
http://freewarearena.org/PHPNuke/modules.php?
name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=18
http://quantum.fateback.com/freeware/freewarebook.htm


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H

Henk de Jong

Bebop said:
Might be the FreewareArea FreewareBook
http://freewarearena.org/PHPNuke/modules.php?
name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=18
http://quantum.fateback.com/freeware/freewarebook.htm

Sorry, I didn't think of that one before, but you are right. It is the
FreewareBook. Mystery solved....

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

Sorry, I didn't think of that one before, but you are right. It is the
FreewareBook. Mystery solved....

I am surprised that you didn't, given your subject heading here and
your recent message about said freeware ebook in
<Just curios, but
can you tell from your netstat the calling browser is named "Freeware
ebook"?

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
H

Henk de Jong

Bjorn said:
I am surprised that you didn't, given your subject heading here and
your recent message about said freeware ebook in
<Just curios, but
can you tell from your netstat the calling browser is named "Freeware
ebook"?

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

Yes, I was surprised too. No, Netstat only mentioned 'ebook/htoo.html'
as the source of those links. After B&R gave this hint, I tried it my
self (I have now actually 5 visits of my own to my pages), and that
worked. Stupid, but I didn't know this, and I also was very surprised
:)

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

Yes, I was surprised too. No, Netstat only mentioned 'ebook/htoo.html'
as the source of those links. After B&R gave this hint, I tried it my
self (I have now actually 5 visits of my own to my pages), and that
worked. Stupid, but I didn't know this, and I also was very surprised
:)

I see. Curious, but if your netstat did not name the source as
"Freeware ebook", how did you know the ebook accesses to your site was
made by/from a "freeware ebook" - as you put in the subject field of
your message here?

Btw, when you accessed your own site twice now with said ebook, and it
worked you say, you did not get any error messages from said e-book?

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
H

Henk de Jong

Bjorn Simonsen wrote on 10-3-2004 :
I see. Curious, but if your netstat did not name the source as
"Freeware ebook", how did you know the ebook accesses to your site was
made by/from a "freeware ebook" - as you put in the subject field of
your message here?

Btw, when you accessed your own site twice now with said ebook, and it
worked you say, you did not get any error messages from said e-book?

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

When Netstat mentioned that visitors used 'ebook/htoo.html' I guessed
that it had something to do with an ebook. Although I didn't expect
that it was the FreewareBook. I was thinking in a direction of some
email newsletter, that used HTML-code, because that was mentioned on
Netstat. I didn't expect the FreewareBook, because that was an *.exe.
But someone mailed me, after my question in here, that the FreewareBook
had several HTML-pages compiled in the application. And one of those
pages was called HTOO.HTML.

No, I didn't get any error messages from that ebook at all. Why would
you think that I should have error messages? The FreewareBook is not
only a list of freewaresites, but it is also a browser. And in that
browser my site showed up just fine, without any problems.

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

When Netstat mentioned that visitors used 'ebook/htoo.html' I guessed
that it had something to do with an ebook. Although I didn't expect
that it was the FreewareBook. I was thinking in a direction of some
email newsletter, that used HTML-code, because that was mentioned on
Netstat. I didn't expect the FreewareBook, because that was an *.exe.

And yet: "Subject: What Freeware ebook is this?"
But someone mailed me, after my question in here, that the FreewareBook
had several HTML-pages compiled in the application. And one of those
pages was called HTOO.HTML.

When looking at said freewarebook here - I can only seem to find a
reference to <htoo.html> in the Websites section - in the "entire
list". For instance the link in that list for your site is
<http://ebook/htoo.html#links2freeware>. Thus an *internal* link,
which takes me to the entry for your site in the "Sites H to O
listings", and there - the *external* link for your site is
No, I didn't get any error messages from that ebook at all. Why would
you think that I should have error messages? The FreewareBook is not
only a list of freewaresites, but it is also a browser.
And in that browser my site showed up just fine, without any problems.

I got an error message when trying to access your site via said "book"
the other day. Didn't write it down then, but can reproduce it now:

Internet Explorer Script Error
An error occurred in the script on this page
Line 100
Char 3
Code 0
URL http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/Buttonbarmain.html
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

IE on its own does not produce that error on your site (nor Opera).

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

Bjorn Simonsen wrote in said:
Internet Explorer Script Error
An error occurred in the script on this page
Line 100
Char 3
Code 0
URL http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/Buttonbarmain.html
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

IE on its own does not produce that error on your site (nor Opera)

Hmm, maybe this explains the entries in your netstat? Just occurred to
me to have a look at the source for above link:

Line 100: nedstatbasic("AAmLpgtoKwVXYf+c4frgVtutumkw", 0);

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
H

Henk de Jong

Bjorn said:
And yet: "Subject: What Freeware ebook is this?"

And yet: I still guessed is was an ebook, because that was the only
info I had at that time.
When looking at said freewarebook here - I can only seem to find a
reference to <htoo.html> in the Websites section - in the "entire
list". For instance the link in that list for your site is
<http://ebook/htoo.html#links2freeware>. Thus an *internal* link,
which takes me to the entry for your site in the "Sites H to O
listings", and there - the *external* link for your site is
<http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/>. Isn't it rahter strange then that
"ebook/htoo.html" ends up as an entry in your netstat?

No, that isn't strange. Nedstat can tell me where the last 100 visitors
came from. I can see this when people have, for instance, used a link
at pricelessware or freewarearena. It won't tell me who came from those
sites, it only tells me the number of visitors that used a specific
link.
I got an error message when trying to access your site via said "book"
the other day. Didn't write it down then, but can reproduce it now:

Internet Explorer Script Error
An error occurred in the script on this page
Line 100
Char 3
Code 0
URL http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/Buttonbarmain.html
Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

IE on its own does not produce that error on your site (nor Opera).

I still don't see any error messages. I use SlimBrowser and have
scripts disabled.

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
H

Henk de Jong

Bjorn Simonsen wrote on 11-3-2004 :
Hmm, maybe this explains the entries in your netstat? Just occurred to
me to have a look at the source for above link:

Line 100: nedstatbasic("AAmLpgtoKwVXYf+c4frgVtutumkw", 0);

That's the code which Nedstat uses to indentify my site :)

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

Two replies in one:

And yet: I still guessed is was an ebook, because that was the only
info I had at that time.

I am cruel. I should have put at least a smiley, a wink - or perhaps
even a grin in there. They where in my head when I typed though. (I
often fail to make the obvious connection too. Don't like it when
I do :).

That's the code which Nedstat uses to indentify my site :)

I understood that much, but figured a typo in your code, since I
believed the proper name was neTstat, a T not a D, how you spelled it
earlier.

Anyway the freewarebook traps on that code, produce said error
message, while both IE and Opera works fine on their own. So my guess
is there is nothing wrong with your code. As for you not seeing same
error message I do, well it could be that something simply can't be
seen from "home"...so if curious - try it from a different domain
sometime if possible. Or since the freeware book browser seems to hook
into IE for scripting (and what else), something different in our
setup (but as said IE on its own works fine with your site from here,
so I blame the freewarebook browser)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
M

MightyKitten

Bjorn Simonsen wrote:
I understood that much, but figured a typo in your code, since I
believed the proper name was neTstat, a T not a D, how you spelled it
earlier.
<SNIP>

Yeah, you would think it is a typo, right? But Nedstat is a Dutch company.
But Ned is from the word "Nederland" (as we call our little country) Of
couse, the use of Ned(erland) in stead of Net is intended.

MightyKitten
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

MightyKitten wrote in said:
Yeah, you would think it is a typo, right? But Nedstat is a Dutch company.
But Ned is from the word "Nederland" (as we call our little country) Of
couse, the use of Ned(erland) in stead of Net is intended.

Thanks for the info Kitten. Good to know.
Btw, did you know that the O in Opera stands for nOrway?

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
M

MightyKitten

I didn't. Do they alway use the second letter of a word for abbreviations
over there?
;-)

BTW were does Opera it stands for? (Exept for a genre of music)

MightyKitten
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

MightyKitten wrote in said:
I didn't. Do they alway use the second letter of a word for abbreviations
over there?

Yes but only if the Humpty Dumpty rule applies, and it usual does.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."
- Lewis Carroll, _Through the Looking Glass_
BTW were does Opera it stands for? (Exept for a genre of music)

I guess the answer to that must be yes or mostly yes, but it could
also be no, it depends on what you mean among other things.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
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Bjorn Simonsen

Bjorn Simonsen wrote in said:
I guess the answer to that must be yes or mostly yes, but it could
also be no, it depends on what you mean among other things.

Sorry ;). AFAIK Opera (Opera Software ASA) is just a name, cleverly
chosen as such. Makes it difficult to associate the name with anything
but the good/nice/beautiful and so on (unless you hate opera music
that is)...

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
M

MightyKitten

I'm not *that* into classical music and Opera. Though I do like the "Ride of
the Valkyrie" (especialy the Warner Bross performance: "Kill the wabbit!"
;-)

MigthyKitten
 
B

Bjorn Simonsen

MightyKitten wrote in said:
I'm not *that* into classical music and Opera.

I am - sort of, just love...and could write a long list of ....
but better not, not the place. :)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
O

omega

Bjorn Simonsen said:
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."
- Lewis Carroll, _Through the Looking Glass_

Humpty Dumpty! You've been eating those laced little cakes at Alice's
tea party, haven't you? Wait, so have I... Yet still, I /swear/ it was
the Walrus I heard say that.
 

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