VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partition

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Guest

Hi!

First of all, sorry for my english! Then ...

SO: Vista Home Premium

3 disk

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb ( ide 0/0 )
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb ( ide 0/1 )

partitions (all NTFS, created by vista)

disk 0 : volume 0, 48 gb, letter C, boot, system, pagefile, hybernate,
etc.etc.
volume 1, 325gb, letter D

both C and D have datas. I can't make a backup of them.

disk 1: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
disk 2: unpartitioned, cointains nothing

I plan to use disk 2 to backup what I consider my most important files.

Now, the question is :

why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
disk 1 ?

(the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).

I would like to have something like this:

disk 0 disk 1
disk 2
|---------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------|
|-------------|--------------------------------------------|-----------------|
C (48gb) D ( 325gb + 300gb)
E (120 gb)



Thank in advance,
Luca.
 
G

Guest

Luca said:
Hi!

First of all, sorry for my english! Then ...

SO: Vista Home Premium

3 disk

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb ( ide 0/0 )
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb ( ide 0/1 )

partitions (all NTFS, created by vista)

disk 0 : volume 0, 48 gb, letter C, boot, system, pagefile, hybernate,
etc.etc.
volume 1, 325gb, letter D

both C and D have datas. I can't make a backup of them.

disk 1: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
disk 2: unpartitioned, cointains nothing

I plan to use disk 2 to backup what I consider my most important files.

Now, the question is :

why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
disk 1 ?

(the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).

I would like to have something like this:

disk 0 disk 1
disk 2
|---------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------|
|-------------|--------------------------------------------|-----------------|
C (48gb) D ( 325gb + 300gb)
E (120 gb)



Thank in advance,
Luca.

I must say your explanation has thrown me a curve ball-but I will simply
state that in order to extend a partition, you must do it next to adjacent,
UNALLOCATED, space. Also, I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but it
seems like you are trying to join hard drives, not partitions. I believe you
can only extend partitions on a singular drive. If this hasn't helped, check
out this article:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...d151-4fde-b187-9f8dfa09cb351033.mspx?mfr=true

Best,
_Mike
 
G

Guest

As Mike state, your explanation sounds as if you want to make Drive 0 and
Drive 1 seen as a single drive.

You can only extend a partition into unallocated space. This prevents
extending Partition D: into C:. You can't really remove C:, but it can be
shrunk somewhat.
Resize C: to minimum it allows.
Extend D: to reclaim unallocated space.

Alternatively:
Partition Disk 2 as a Simple Partition.
Copy all important data from D: to Drive 2, then remove the D: partition.
Extend C: partition to encompass all of Drive 0.
 
G

Guest

Mike said:
I must say your explanation has thrown me a curve ball-

I don't know what the above means but it sounds bad .... Sorry ... :(
but I will simply > state that in order to extend a partition, you must do
it next to adjacent, UNALLOCATED, space. Also, I'm not sure if this is
what you're asking, but it seems like you are trying to join hard drives, not
partitions. I believe you can only extend partitions on a singular drive.

I'm trying to join a partition on a drive ( disk 0, part 2) to an emty hard
drive ( disk 1 ).

It's seems strange to me that if I try to do such an operation using other
partitions, it does work.

i.e. :

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb, volume C, volume D
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb EMPTY
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb, volume E

I'm able to extend volume E using empty space on disk 1

I'm NOT able to extend volume D using empty space on disk 1.

Sigh ....
 
G

Guest

mhonzell said:
You can only extend a partition into unallocated space.

It's seems strange to me that if I try to do such an operation using other
partitions, it does work.

i.e. :

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb, volume C, volume D
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb EMPTY
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb, volume E

I'm able to extend volume E using empty space on disk 1

I'm NOT able to extend volume D using empty space on disk 1.


So it seems to be possibile to join a partition to unallocated space
beloging to another phisical disk.

I wonder why I can join E: to disk 1 but I can't join D: to disk 1.

Sigh ....
 
L

LaRoux

Are disk 0, 1, and 2 all basic disks or dynamic?

Is Volume D a primary partition or logical partition?
 
G

Guest

LaRoux said:
Are disk 0, 1, and 2 all basic disks or dynamic?

Is Volume D a primary partition or logical partition?

disk 0, 1, 2 are all basic disks

both D and E are primay partition
 
G

Guest

Luca said:
why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
disk 1 ?

(the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).

Finally I think I found where the problem is.

Vista thinks disk 0 is a removable drive so I cannot extend any partition on
disk 0 by joining it to unallocated space on disk 1.

Now, if I'm right, the question is WHY it thinks so and HOW can I revert
this ?

motherboard: asus p5rd1-vm
controller: integrated ULI M1573 southbridge, 4xsata with raid 0, 1,
0+1, jobd

ULI's manual doesn't report hotswap capabilities and I did not use raid (I
have only one sata disk, disk 0).

mmmmmmmmm .....
 

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