Vista Home 64-bit update, on NEW build PC.

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  1. mainframeguy

    mainframeguy Guest

    Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.

    I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
    sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed to
    the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line on
    the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
    Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old system
    and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
     
    mainframeguy, Oct 1, 2009
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  2. mainframeguy

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on the
    new system.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    >
    > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
    > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed
    > to
    > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line
    > on
    > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
    > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
    > system
    > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    >
     
    Rick Rogers, Oct 2, 2009
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  3. mainframeguy

    mainframeguy Guest

    Thanks Rick,
    Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
    except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.

    If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks for
    your reply.
    I will stop the Clone thing.
    Sey

    "Rick Rogers" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on the
    > new system.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    > > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    > >
    > > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old Drive
    > > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly completed
    > > to
    > > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    > > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last line
    > > on
    > > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and reboot.
    > > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
    > > system
    > > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    > >

    >
    >
     
    mainframeguy, Oct 2, 2009
    #3
  4. mainframeguy

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
    nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
    disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
    clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
    entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
    Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
    in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
    installation.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks Rick,
    > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
    > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
    >
    > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
    > for
    > your reply.
    > I will stop the Clone thing.
    > Sey
    >
    > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
    >> the
    >> new system.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best of Luck,
    >>
    >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    >> >
    >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
    >> > Drive
    >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
    >> > completed
    >> > to
    >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
    >> > line
    >> > on
    >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
    >> > reboot.
    >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
    >> > system
    >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    >> >

    >>
    >>
     
    Rick Rogers, Oct 2, 2009
    #4
  5. mainframeguy

    mainframeguy Guest

    "Rick Rogers" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
    > nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
    > disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
    > clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
    > entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
    > Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
    > in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
    > installation.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Thanks Rick,
    > > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    > > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and running
    > > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
    > >
    > > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
    > > for
    > > your reply.
    > > I will stop the Clone thing.
    > > Sey
    > >
    > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
    > >> the
    > >> new system.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Best of Luck,
    > >>
    > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:...
    > >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    > >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    > >> >
    > >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
    > >> > Drive
    > >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
    > >> > completed
    > >> > to
    > >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    > >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
    > >> > line
    > >> > on
    > >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
    > >> > reboot.
    > >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
    > >> > system
    > >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>

    >

    How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
    the new Vista. Sey
     
    mainframeguy, Oct 2, 2009
    #5
  6. mainframeguy

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Sey.

    > How do I bypass the screen?????


    Just continue to Clean Install without entering the Product Key. As Rick
    said, this will let Setup install Vista for a limited time (30 days? I
    forgot). Before that time is up, you have to enter the PK to activate it.
    Do that by running Setup again, but this time as an Upgrade - with the
    Upgrade PK. ;<)

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

    "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    >
    > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
    >> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
    >> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create
    >> a
    >> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
    >> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
    >> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
    >> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
    >> installation.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best of Luck,
    >>
    >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP


    >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > Thanks Rick,
    >> > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    >> > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
    >> > running
    >> > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
    >> >
    >> > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still
    >> > thanks
    >> > for
    >> > your reply.
    >> > I will stop the Clone thing.
    >> > Sey
    >> >
    >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Hi,
    >> >>
    >> >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it,
    >> >> on
    >> >> the
    >> >> new system.
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >> Best of Luck,
    >> >>
    >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP


    >> >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in
    >> >> message
    >> >> news:...
    >> >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    >> >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
    >> >> > Drive
    >> >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
    >> >> > completed
    >> >> > to
    >> >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen
    >> >> > (Safemode
    >> >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the
    >> >> > last
    >> >> > line
    >> >> > on
    >> >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
    >> >> > reboot.
    >> >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my
    >> >> > old
    >> >> > system
    >> >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    >> >>

    >>

    > How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
    > the new Vista. Sey
     
    R. C. White, Oct 2, 2009
    #6
  7. mainframeguy

    mainframeguy Guest

    Amazing... I guess I will still have to move my files/programs (stuff) the
    hardway.
    But I will have a Windows Vista 64 on the NEW. After I add my Network I
    can get it attached to the ADSL.
    Wow...so many sleepless hours. Thanks..

    "R. C. White" wrote:

    > Hi, Sey.
    >
    > > How do I bypass the screen?????

    >
    > Just continue to Clean Install without entering the Product Key. As Rick
    > said, this will let Setup install Vista for a limited time (30 days? I
    > forgot). Before that time is up, you have to enter the PK to activate it.
    > Do that by running Setup again, but this time as an Upgrade - with the
    > Upgrade PK. ;<)
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    >
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
    >
    > "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >
    > >
    > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hi,
    > >>
    > >> You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
    > >> nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
    > >> disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create
    > >> a
    > >> clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
    > >> entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
    > >> Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
    > >> in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
    > >> installation.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Best of Luck,
    > >>
    > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

    >
    > >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:...
    > >> > Thanks Rick,
    > >> > Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    > >> > And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
    > >> > running
    > >> > except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
    > >> >
    > >> > If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still
    > >> > thanks
    > >> > for
    > >> > your reply.
    > >> > I will stop the Clone thing.
    > >> > Sey
    > >> >
    > >> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> Hi,
    > >> >>
    > >> >> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it,
    > >> >> on
    > >> >> the
    > >> >> new system.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> --
    > >> >> Best of Luck,
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

    >
    > >> >> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in
    > >> >> message
    > >> >> news:...
    > >> >> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    > >> >> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
    > >> >> > Drive
    > >> >> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
    > >> >> > completed
    > >> >> > to
    > >> >> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen
    > >> >> > (Safemode
    > >> >> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the
    > >> >> > last
    > >> >> > line
    > >> >> > on
    > >> >> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
    > >> >> > reboot.
    > >> >> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my
    > >> >> > old
    > >> >> > system
    > >> >> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    > >> >>
    > >>

    > > How do I bypass the screen????? UPS will be in a couple of hours with
    > > the new Vista. Sey

    >
    >
     
    mainframeguy, Oct 2, 2009
    #7
  8. mainframeguy

    Ian D Guest

    "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
    news:%23pN9%...
    > Hi,
    >
    > You mean the upgrade disk? Sure, it's just a bit more convoluted. There's
    > nothing you need to do to prepare the drive, simply boot with the 64-bit
    > disk and run setup. As it's an upgrade disk, you won't be able to create a
    > clean install with that product key, so you'll need to install without
    > entering it. Just bypass that screen and choose the appropriate version.
    > Once the installation completes, you'll need to re-use the disk and do an
    > in-place upgrade, this time entering the key so that you can activate the
    > installation.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    > news:...


    Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
    The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
    it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
    with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
    After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.

    Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
    install like this as genuine Vista.

    One interesting thing about doing a clean install with
    64 bit Vista, is that, as long as you don't do a format,
    non OS files and folders in the target partition are left
    intact, and not moved to windows.old. Applications
    in Program Files will be moved to windows.old, but
    everything else non-OS will be untouched.

    >> Thanks Rick,
    >> Can I install an update vista home 64bit onto a empty hard drive?
    >> And what should i do to prepare the Hard drive. System is up and
    >> running
    >> except that i can not get past the windows safemode screen and reboots.
    >>
    >> If you can answer these questions it would be great, if not still thanks
    >> for
    >> your reply.
    >> I will stop the Clone thing.
    >> Sey
    >>
    >> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> The hardware is too different. You need to install it, not clone it, on
    >>> the
    >>> new system.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Best of Luck,
    >>>
    >>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    >>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    >>> "mainframeguy" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>> > Old= Home 32-bit, running and attached to Internet.
    >>> > New= I7-920, DX58SO, 6GB 1333 mem, 4870 ATI, WD 1TB sata drive.
    >>> >
    >>> > I cloned the system using Acronis True Image 11 (automatic) from Old
    >>> > Drive
    >>> > sata 64gb to New 1tb. Moved the Drive when it was successfuly
    >>> > completed
    >>> > to
    >>> > the New System and cannot get past the windows error screen (Safemode
    >>> > entries), when i execute the choice with command, i see that the last
    >>> > line
    >>> > on
    >>> > the screen is crcdisk.sys and then a flash of the blue screen and
    >>> > reboot.
    >>> > Tomorrow i will receive my new Vista 64 home. should i update my old
    >>> > system
    >>> > and then move drive to NEW????? thanks..
    >>> >
    >>>
    >>>

    >
     
    Ian D, Oct 2, 2009
    #8
  9. mainframeguy

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    > Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
    > The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
    > it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
    > with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
    > After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.


    Yes. The key to this is that the installation is started from within a
    working one. FWIW, an in-place upgrade to a clean install still results in a
    clean install.

    > Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
    > install like this as genuine Vista.


    Yes, and it should.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

    <snip>
     
    Rick Rogers, Oct 3, 2009
    #9
  10. mainframeguy

    mainframeguy Guest

    IT WORKED, I HAVE A SYSTEM.
    Thanks to Rick and all of you who replied i have a running system which is
    not online yet. Have a few kinks to work out.

    Watch for more Questions. Sey

    "Rick Rogers" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > > Actually, you can also do a clean install the second time.
    > > The clean install gives a better final product. I've done
    > > it both ways, and the upgrade install takes a lot longer,
    > > with a lot more disk activity, than a second clean install.
    > > After the second install, delete the windows.old folder.

    >
    > Yes. The key to this is that the installation is started from within a
    > working one. FWIW, an in-place upgrade to a clean install still results in a
    > clean install.
    >
    > > Even if it's not activated, a WGA check will show an
    > > install like this as genuine Vista.

    >
    > Yes, and it should.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >
     
    mainframeguy, Oct 3, 2009
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