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Octavio

When the new Windows 7 is expected to be on the retail stores for sale? Any
idea of the retail prices?

Will the Office Professional 2007 programs work well with it (I bet it will,
since they are from the same company. Any anticipated problems? Slowness
in old computers?)
 
J

JoAnn Paules

The first part of you question may be answered by searching Microsoft's
website. Please note I said *may* and not *will*. All we can do is
speculate.

Second part: Almost certainly. As for anticipated problems, almost
certainly.
 
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Gordon

Will the Office Professional 2007 programs work well with it (I bet it
will,
since they are from the same company. Any anticipated problems?
Slowness
in old computers?)

No problems here so far - running on a Toshiba L40 Satellite with 2GB RAM
and dual core 1.6 GHz processor...
 
J

Jay Freedman

Octavio said:
When the new Windows 7 is expected to be on the retail stores for
sale? Any idea of the retail prices?

A simple Google search for "windows 7 release date" gets the official answer
at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/home?os=nonwin7 --
"Windows 7 will be available on October 22." That's the retail release date;
people with MSDN or TechNet subscriptions can download it now.

A link on that page leads to
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare-editions that
shows estimated retail prices for three editions. Amazon.com shows the same
prices at
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=windows+7&x=0&y=0
although you may find other prices elsewhere.
Will the Office Professional 2007 programs work well with it (I bet
it will, since they are from the same company. Any anticipated
problems? Slowness in old computers?)

In my experience, both Office 2007 and Office 2003 work perfectly well on
Windows 7, on both a 2-year-old desktop and a 4-year-old laptop. In fact, I
think they work better on Windows 7 than they did on Windows Vista. But if
your computer is old enough and slow enough, or has too little RAM, no
version of Windows or Office is going to be satisfactory.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
D

Daddy

For whatever it's worth: I have been using the 2007 versions of Word, Excel
and Outlook on the Windows 7 Release Candidate without problems.

Daddy
 
J

jaws

Does Windows7 ALLOW you to use a default mail other than WindowsMail, as
Vista forces? Still trying to believe not only did Vista force this, but
gave no other options, and no work-arounds for it. As someone who's has had
more than one computer crash, WHY would I want my mail to download on my
computer, take up precious hard-drive space, AND be lost if computer were
lost/stolen/broken????? ... I would love to meet the brilliant mind that
came up with that ... and the brilliant one that decided customers would want
no other options ... gotta love a mind-reader.
 
J

Jay Freedman

As Terry Farrell replied to your other spew in this newsgroup,
"Rubbish." Neither Vista nor Windows 7 forces the default mail client
to anything.
 
H

Herb Tyson [MVP]

jaws said:
Does Windows 7 ALLOW you to use a default mail other than WindowsMail, as
Vista forces? Still trying to believe not only did Vista force this, but
gave no other options, and no work-arounds for it.

Windows 7 does not come with any default mail handler. You can add one if
you wish. Windows Mail is not included with Windows 7. I'm currently using
Outlook 2007, which works quite well for my needs.

Vista *does* provide other options. I used Outlook 2007 in Vista as my
default mail handler. Vista did not force Windows Mail, and allows you to
choose any MAPI compliant program. I don't know where you got your
information, but if you paid someone for it, you should demand a refund,
because it's just plain wrong.

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
 
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Gordon

WHY would I want my mail to download on my
computer, take up precious hard-drive space,

Err ALL email clients "download" email to the HDD.........what makes you
think they don't? (And BTW, accessing email through a web browser is NOT
using an email client...)
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

Not necessarily. When you use IMAP instead of POP, the mail downloads so you
can look at it on your computer, but the decision to store messages on your
own computer is entirely up to you. Email is stored on the server unless you
explicitly remove/purge it, and so it does not "take up precious hard-drive
space". Outlook, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, and Outlook Express are
all mail clients that can do IMAP... to name just a few.


Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
 
G

Gordon

Herb Tyson said:
Not necessarily. When you use IMAP instead of POP, the mail downloads so
you can look at it on your computer, but the decision to store messages on
your own computer is entirely up to you.

IMAP accounts in Outlook use a pst file - so the difference between
"storing" and "viewing" is rather academic don't you think?
 
O

Octavio

What is exactly the definition of "mail client"?
I am the "mail client" , or who is, or what is? (please clarify this for
me).
Thanks in advance.
 
T

Tom Willett

A mail client is the program used to send/receive mail, such as Outlook,
Outlook Express, Thunderbird, etc.

: What is exactly the definition of "mail client"?
: I am the "mail client" , or who is, or what is? (please clarify this for
: me).
: Thanks in advance.
:
:
:
:
: : > Not necessarily. When you use IMAP instead of POP, the mail downloads so
: > you can look at it on your computer, but the decision to store messages
on
: > your own computer is entirely up to you. Email is stored on the server
: > unless you explicitly remove/purge it, and so it does not "take up
: > precious hard-drive space". Outlook, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail,
and
: > Outlook Express are all mail clients that can do IMAP... to name just a
: > few.
: >
: >
: > Herb Tyson MS MVP
: > Author of the Word 2007 Bible
: > Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
: > Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
: >
: >
: > : >>
: >> : >>
: >>> WHY would I want my mail to download on my
: >>> computer, take up precious hard-drive space,
: >>
: >> Err ALL email clients "download" email to the HDD.........what makes
you
: >> think they don't? (And BTW, accessing email through a web browser is
NOT
: >> using an email client...)
: >>
: >>
 
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Gordon

Herb Tyson said:
The .pst for my POP account is over 2GB. The one for my IMAP account is
265K. You might call that academic, I call it a substantial difference.
The structure is there so you can read and manage email that resides on
the server.

Did you count the OST file as well?
 
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Herb Tyson [MVP]

An .ost file is an offline storage file where you CAN (but don't have to)
store messages offline when working with an Exchange Server. I don't use
Exchange, hence, I have no .ost file(s).

Note that IMAP is similar in some ways to Exchange, but it is not the same.

I have two .pst files currently in use. One is where POP delivery occurs (if
I have POP accounts) and also where local item storage occurs.

The second is the structure used for IMAP. Mail is not stored locally (i.e.,
on my computer) in this second .pst file.

When I receive an email on the IMAP server, it shows up in my IMAP .pst
file. If I want to be able to see that message offline, I would need to copy
it to a local folder. When I'm disconnected from the internet, nothing shows
up in my IMAP .pst file.

It is entirely possible to use IMAP and keep email exclusively on the
server, with minimal local overhead in terms of disk space used.

It's also possible to use POP and IMAP in parallel--this can be useful if
you retrieve email using multiple computers (e.g., a laptop and a desktop),
and want to use IMAP access to manage what's on the server, rather than as a
way to read email.

But, this has nothing to so with Word, so I'm not sure why it's here. In any
case, for more detailed information about these intriguing topics, you might
try one of the Outlook, Windows Mail, or Exchange newsgroups.

--

Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
 

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