Temp too high? 60C diode

[Lopaka]

Hello Group,

My AMD 2600+ is running at 2087Mhz with a no-load temp
(MBM5) of 53-60 C. on the CPU diode. I am beginning to think
I may have fumbled the CPU installation (took a few tries) enough
to "spoil" the supplied thermal compound. (Yes, took the paper off).
Do you folks think I should reinstall the stock HSF with that silver
impregnated
thermal compound?

Any advice appreciated !

Case =20 CPU diode =57 Socket =40 C.
Fans =1 front, 2 rear, 1 side, 2 on pwr supply.


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[Ben Pope]

Hello Group,

My AMD 2600+ is running at 2087Mhz with a no-load temp
(MBM5) of 53-60 C. on the CPU diode. I am beginning to think
I may have fumbled the CPU installation (took a few tries) enough
to "spoil" the supplied thermal compound. (Yes, took the paper off).
Do you folks think I should reinstall the stock HSF with that silver
impregnated
thermal compound?

Any advice appreciated !

Case =20 CPU diode =57 Socket =40 C.
Fans =1 front, 2 rear, 1 side, 2 on pwr supply.

Thats probably too high for no-load... thats what I'd expect to see as a max
for load temp.

You need a thin layer of thermal compound on there.

If you have used the thermal pad supplied, fired up the cpu, then removed
the heatsink, the thermal pad is no longer useful. It's an install-once
thing.

Ben

 

[Lopaka]

Thats probably too high for no-load... thats what I'd expect to see as a max
for load temp.

You need a thin layer of thermal compound on there.

If you have used the thermal pad supplied, fired up the cpu, then removed
the heatsink, the thermal pad is no longer useful. It's an install-once
thing.

Ah, thanks, I never fired it up until I got it mounted right, that makes
me feel better.
I don't have A/C here in Hawaii, I'll go look around for better HSF
options. <Lo

 

[Ben Pope]

Ah, thanks, I never fired it up until I got it mounted right, that
makes me feel better.
I don't have A/C here in Hawaii, I'll go look around for better HSF
options. <Lo

With a case temp of 20°C you don't need A/C

Thermal pads are not particularly good - especially if you're running >2GHz,
what HSF do you have? You may be a lot better off just using thermal
compound.

Ben

 

[Pief]

Hello Group,

My AMD 2600+ is running at 2087Mhz with a no-load temp
(MBM5) of 53-60 C. on the CPU diode. I am beginning to think
I may have fumbled the CPU installation (took a few tries) enough
to "spoil" the supplied thermal compound. (Yes, took the paper off).
Do you folks think I should reinstall the stock HSF with that silver
impregnated
thermal compound?

Any advice appreciated !

Case =20 CPU diode =57 Socket =40 C.
Fans =1 front, 2 rear, 1 side, 2 on pwr supply.

Possibly, you can try remoulding the blob and using it again -I have done
this many times with no noticable degradation -the grey stuff that comes
with amd heatsink.
I got a couple of degrees lower using just a tiny trace of the white
compound stolen from underneath the chipsets heatsink

 

[Lopaka]

With a case temp of 20°C you don't need A/C

Thermal pads are not particularly good - especially if you're running
2GHz,
what HSF do you have? You may be a lot better off just using thermal
compound.

Thanks Ben,

I have the stock HSF what comes with the AMD 2600+.
Time for me to buy some goop, eh?

What HSF do you use? <Lo

 

[dave]

Possibly, you can try remoulding the blob and using it again -I have done

this many times with no noticable degradation -the grey stuff that comes
with amd heatsink.
I got a couple of degrees lower using just a tiny trace of the white
compound stolen from underneath the chipsets heatsink

I'm sorry but that is really bad advice to give, chintzing out on a HSF
installation is a good recipe for burning out components.

 

[DaveW]

Yes; 60 C at idle is too much.

 

[Ben Pope]

Thanks Ben,

I have the stock HSF what comes with the AMD 2600+.
Time for me to buy some goop, eh?

No idea on the quality of that heatsink.

What HSF do you use? <Lo

The Aero7+

Ben

 

[Pief]

Possibly, you can try remoulding the blob and using it again -I have done

this many times with no noticable degradation -the grey stuff that comes
with amd heatsink.
I got a couple of degrees lower using just a tiny trace of the white
compound stolen from underneath the chipsets heatsink

I'm sorry but that is really bad advice to give, chintzing out on a HSF
installation is a good recipe for burning out components.

A little blob of earwax makes a reasonable heat compound too -just pick out
the hairs.

Chill out, there is a thing called overheat protection on most asus mobos.
Im here to tell the folks with some understanding that you can improvise
this stuff without buying a hundred times as much heat compound you need
for a hundred times as much as you want to pay for it.
And I know, cause I tested this theory many times and didnt come close to
breaking anything -with this experiment....

Careful with tat heatsink clip though

 

[Pief]

Thanks Ben,

I have the stock HSF what comes with the AMD 2600+.
Time for me to buy some goop, eh?

No idea on the quality of that heatsink.

Copper based is significantly better.

 

[dave]

Chill out, there is a thing called overheat protection on most asus mobos.
Im here to tell the folks with some understanding that you can improvise
this stuff without buying a hundred times as much heat compound you need
for a hundred times as much as you want to pay for it.

I'm not saying you need to spend lots of money...for 3 dollars cnd. at Radio
Shack you can get a tube of HS compound that will do ten to fifteen
installs....compared to 70 to however much you want to spend on a processor
and howerver much on a board it seems like a pretty cheap and safe
investment.

 

[Ben Pope]

Thanks Ben,

I have the stock HSF what comes with the AMD 2600+.
Time for me to buy some goop, eh?

No idea on the quality of that heatsink.

Copper based is significantly better.

I take it that it's Aluminium then?

Indeed, Copper will be beneficial.

Ben

 

[Pief]

Chill out, there is a thing called overheat protection on most asus mobos.
Im here to tell the folks with some understanding that you can improvise
this stuff without buying a hundred times as much heat compound you need
for a hundred times as much as you want to pay for it.

I'm not saying you need to spend lots of money...for 3 dollars cnd. at Radio
Shack you can get a tube of HS compound that will do ten to fifteen
installs....compared to 70 to however much you want to spend on a processor
and howerver much on a board it seems like a pretty cheap and safe
investment.

oooh, Morning after...
Fair dues, that sounds cheap. In UK where I am I shopped around and couldnt
find any stocked for much less than a tenner :/

 

[JonnyCab®]

Thermalright SLK-947U and a very quiet Sanyo-Denki 60-by-25mm, 3,500RPM fan.

First, if you own an Asus Athlon board of any kind, use the mounting holes
around the heat sink! Asus is one of very few manufacturers still providing
those holes, and they're PLATED. They're also not crowded with traces and
SMDs.

The SLK-947U is, from what I've seen, THE most effective heat sink you can
buy without water cooling. I used a very thin coat of Arctic Silver 3 on
the CPU, and a tiny dot of it on the heat sink where the die is centered.

My XP2800 Barton/A7N8X Deluxe 2.0/1007 BIOS swings between 38-40C at the CPU
socket (Asus 1 on MBM), and 35-40C at the diode (W83L785TS-S on MBM). The
chassis shows around 24-26C (Asus 2 on MBM).

Yes, the diode shows LOWER temperatures when the system is idle or lightly
loaded. I tried larger, 80 and 92mm adjustable-speed Enermax fans, but the
60mm Sanyo-Denki gave me lower temperatures all around, and lower when
drawing air AWAY from the heat sink, not blowing on it. I'm guessing that
drawing the air around the heat sink into it and up-and-out also draws
cooler air over the Northbridge heat sink, instead of blowing hot air from
the CPU over the Northbridge. I also think that a smaller fan concentrates
its "vortex" closer to the core's center, but that's just my theory.

Anyway, the SLK-947U is one very impressive heat sink, and the hardware is
all steel---no vinyl nuts like the Alpha 8045. I still like the older
Zalman CNPS-5000, which also mounts very well on Asus Athlon boards, but the
SLK-947U is the best---and I got it on sale for around $30.

 

[Lopaka]

Yes; 60 C at idle is too much.

Ok, I backed off my bus clock to 133 frrom 166.
AMD 2600+ is now 1670Mhz instead of 2087.
Cpu diode temp went to 51C at idle (was 59) socket at 39C (was 40)

I will stay here until I can cool off a bit more with a better HSF

Thanks, Gentlemen