Sun Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 10

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Bill Sanderson MVP

Thrilling. I was offered 8 by Suns automatic update process on a machine
just yesterday. I've been installing 9 on most machines for a while now.
 
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Randy Knobloch

Bill Sanderson MVP said:
Thrilling. I was offered 8 by Suns automatic update process on a machine just
yesterday. I've been installing 9 on most machines for a while now.

That's Sun for you, Bill - what can I say...
Mow Green would have some words and likely will

Randy

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Guest

Thank You Randy. Can't seem to find an answer on the Sun site, Would you
know if you could remove update 8 and 9 from Add/Remove without affecting
update 10 ? Or should i just leave it alone.
 
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Guest

My java runs on the 26th of each month for updates, although I got nothing
this month, I got upgrade 9 last month. I was always told to uninstall the
previous one when U download an update, so I took out 8 after 9 was installed.

Have no idea about 10, as so far it wasn't offered to me as an update, so
this is news to me. Oh well, guess I will wait and see what happens. Thanx
for the link, maybe I will read more about it later tonight....:)
 
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Randy Knobloch

JJ said:
My java runs on the 26th of each month for updates, although I got nothing
this month, I got upgrade 9 last month. I was always told to uninstall the
previous one when U download an update, so I took out 8 after 9 was installed.

Have no idea about 10, as so far it wasn't offered to me as an update, so
this is news to me. Oh well, guess I will wait and see what happens. Thanx
for the link, maybe I will read more about it later tonight....:)

The Sun Java auto-update mechanism is extremely unreliable, JJ!
Watch for *posted* updates in areas, such as this.

Regards,
Randy

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Guest

Hi JJ, In control panel double click the steaming cup of coffee (Java) and in
my Java control panel it says : on the second day of each month at 5:00 PM
Java will check for an update, yours says different ? Also you can update
from there
 
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plun

Randy Knobloch skrev:
The Sun Java auto-update mechanism is extremely unreliable, JJ!
Watch for *posted* updates in areas, such as this.

Well... maybe itÅ› nescessary to also read release notes about this update.

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html

Nothing about security, it seems to be just a *normal* software update.

If users having trouble with a specific site, the site owner probably
points this user to upgrade to update 10. And Sun slowly rolls it out
without bandwith trouble and costs.

"nema problema"... Java horror rumours... ;)

I went to Ubuntu and have no trouble with this "mess" anymore...

regards
plun
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

You not only can, but should. In some cases, leaving an old version with a
security vulnerability in place leaves that vulnerability open.

The design of Java allows for dependencies of applications on a particular
version. However, for many users, this isn't a practical
consideration--remove the old ones and if something does break, they are
available to be replaced.

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Randy Knobloch

Ron H said:
Thank You Randy. Can't seem to find an answer on the Sun site, Would you
know if you could remove update 8 and 9 from Add/Remove without affecting
update 10 ? Or should i just leave it alone.

Ron, the general rule is to apply the update, disable to automatic update
mechanism and uninstall **all** previous updates via Add/Remove Programs.

Randy

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plun

Bill Sanderson MVP skrev:
So--what problems are left? Is it really perfect?

No "problems" Bill, only challengies .... ;)

ItÅ› "drivers hell", old fashion Linux ways, modern Linux thinkers ways
but itÅ› really fun.... The Ubuntu distro is really good.... ;)

"The magic cube" is something special.... whats Aero and Win-Flip ? ;)


(and XP as a rescue if something goes totally wrong)

regards
plun
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

It's the challenges that provide exercise: I spent some time learning about
PHP Safe mode last night. I barely have any idea about what PHP is, let
alone why it has a safe mode that many folks want to turn off, rather than
on, but the complexities of finding the right way to turn it off on a given
linux setup, depending on the control panel available, etc, are mind
boggling. Admittedly, this is an unusual setup--virtual servers running on
an "appliance"--but my experience didn't fill me with confidence about the
overall design.

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Randy Knobloch

robinb said:
gee i just got 5.0 update 9
wonder why 10 came out so fast

Update 9 was a while ago, Robin.
You might find why in the release notes I posted.

Regards,
Randy

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Guest

Hi Ron...Yes I checked my java and it says it ran at 4:45 on the 26th of Nov.
but no updates. Guess I will have to do it manually. I love it when these so
called automatic updates don't work. Oh well, that is why I check here alot,
I get more info..

Enjoy, and TTYL...:)
 
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Guest

Thanks, everything seems to work fine after removing update 8 & 9 . Enjoy
your weekend.
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

You may want to just trust the automatic update. plun says the notes to
this update don't mention any security issue--Sun doesn't push every version
update to everyone at 100 megs a shot--it would be a waste of bandwidth.

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Guest

Hi Bill..I went to my Java in control panel, hit update and it came back and
told me I have the latest so I ain't messing with it. A friend had the same
message, so as long as it is working, I am leaving it be. Like they say, if
it isn't broke, don't fix it.

Enjoy your weekend....:)
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

I think that's a good choice in this case. Autoupdate mechanisms vary.
For example, Adobe's seems to say no updates are available if it is simply
unable to contact the their site--which is not helpful. I'm unsure about
how reliable Sun's is--I mentioned that it offered .8 to me when .9 had been
out for a good long time, and, I think, offered on other machines. However,
from what I can recall at the moment, as long as you are on 8 or above,
there aren't publicly reported vulnerabilities out there at the moment.

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