Stop Mouse Scroll? - 2003/PPTVIEW/Kiosk Mode/AdvanceOnClick=NUL

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Guest

I'm exclusively running PowerPoint 2003 (and its associated PowerPoint Viewer 2003). No other version has ever been installed on my PPT development PC. I can easily prevent ANY mouse scrolling at Slide Show runtime in the FULL PowerPoint by (1) selecting Slide Show / Kiosk Mode once during overall setup, then (2) UNselecting the default Slide Transition / Advance Slide / On Mouse Click once for EVERY slide. Historic threads in this PPT Discussion Group also confirm that those same 2 steps SHOULD BE sufficient.

HOWEVER, the scroll wheel is ALWAYS active on EVERY slide of that exact same PPT when viewed in PPTVIEW.EXE, regardless of those 2 "sufficient" mouse lockouts. How do I KILL any response to the scroll wheel in kiosk mode at runtime with PPTVIEW.EXE (2003 version)??

Before you tell me there must be a "user bug" in my (big) PPT, please know that I've reproduced this problem by creating a NEW BLANK PPT, with only 3 simple text slides in the default Title Page layout (Slide 1), then default Title and Text layout (Slides 2&3), each with only minimal text such as "Scroll Wheel Viewer Test" / "Slide n" entered at their respective placeholders for Title and Subtitle (or Text)

Running that simple test PPT as a Slide Show in the full (licensed) PowerPoint 2003 on my same PPT development PC, there is NOTHING I can do to get past slide 1 (to slide 2 or slide 3) - regardless of whether I click mouse buttons or roll the scroll wheel endlessly. That is just as it should be (and just as I want), BECAUSE I have specified Slide Show / Kiosk Mode with "Advance On Mouse Click" UNchecked for EVERY slide.

BUT, running that same test PPT in PPTVIEW.EXE, I can ALWAYS loop endlessly between slides 1, 2, and 3, then back to 1 and on through that same loop again, simply by using the same scroll wheel that correctly had NO effect in the native PPT slide show. This PowerPoint Viewer 2003 BUG occurs regardless of how I access PowerPoint Viewer 2003. For example, this bug occurs if I use Package for CD / Copy to CD, then autorun that CD on another PC that has never had any version of PowerPoint or PowerPoint Viewer installed. This identical bug also occurs if I simply right-click that same test PPT on my PowerPoint 2003 development PC, then select "Open With", and browse to select PPTVIEW.EXE.

Microsoft PPT staff monitoring this discussion group - I sincerely request that you post a reply (in this thread) confirming this BUG in PPTVIEW.EXE (Office 2003, PPTVIEW Version 11.0.5530.0). It simply does NOT behave in the same (correct) way that the full PowerPoint does, even with the simplest (test) PPT. I found virtually nothing in MS KB or anywhere on microsoft.com so far about this, but I really think all users need to know. Please also publish a KB article to help the next person (including keywords PPTVIEW, viewer, scroll, wheel, mouse, 2003) and give a link to that KB as you reply to this thread.

Anyone (MS staff, MVP, or other PPT user like me), please give me any known PPTVIEW 2003 workaround (if ANY exists???)

Thanks

Dew
 
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Sonia

I'm sorry you're having a problem, but really glad that you provided such
thorough information. I had not encountered this behavior in the PowerPoint
2003 Viewer, so I did a similar small test like you and can confirm that the
Viewer allows the scroll wheel to override the normal Kiosk behavior. I
work with the Viewer a lot, but I don't use a mouse or scroll wheel, so
hadn't tripped over this before. I will report this to Microsoft as a bug
because, at least from my perspective, I can't imagine why this would have
been designed into the Viewer. I'll post back here if I receive any further
information.
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


DewA said:
I'm exclusively running PowerPoint 2003 (and its associated PowerPoint
Viewer 2003). No other version has ever been installed on my PPT development
PC. I can easily prevent ANY mouse scrolling at Slide Show runtime in the
FULL PowerPoint by (1) selecting Slide Show / Kiosk Mode once during overall
setup, then (2) UNselecting the default Slide Transition / Advance Slide /
On Mouse Click once for EVERY slide. Historic threads in this PPT Discussion
Group also confirm that those same 2 steps SHOULD BE sufficient.
HOWEVER, the scroll wheel is ALWAYS active on EVERY slide of that exact
same PPT when viewed in PPTVIEW.EXE, regardless of those 2 "sufficient"
mouse lockouts. How do I KILL any response to the scroll wheel in kiosk mode
at runtime with PPTVIEW.EXE (2003 version)???
Before you tell me there must be a "user bug" in my (big) PPT, please know
that I've reproduced this problem by creating a NEW BLANK PPT, with only 3
simple text slides in the default Title Page layout (Slide 1), then default
Title and Text layout (Slides 2&3), each with only minimal text such as
"Scroll Wheel Viewer Test" / "Slide n" entered at their respective
placeholders for Title and Subtitle (or Text).
Running that simple test PPT as a Slide Show in the full (licensed)
PowerPoint 2003 on my same PPT development PC, there is NOTHING I can do to
get past slide 1 (to slide 2 or slide 3) - regardless of whether I click
mouse buttons or roll the scroll wheel endlessly. That is just as it should
be (and just as I want), BECAUSE I have specified Slide Show / Kiosk Mode
with "Advance On Mouse Click" UNchecked for EVERY slide.
BUT, running that same test PPT in PPTVIEW.EXE, I can ALWAYS loop
endlessly between slides 1, 2, and 3, then back to 1 and on through that
same loop again, simply by using the same scroll wheel that correctly had NO
effect in the native PPT slide show. This PowerPoint Viewer 2003 BUG occurs
regardless of how I access PowerPoint Viewer 2003. For example, this bug
occurs if I use Package for CD / Copy to CD, then autorun that CD on another
PC that has never had any version of PowerPoint or PowerPoint Viewer
installed. This identical bug also occurs if I simply right-click that same
test PPT on my PowerPoint 2003 development PC, then select "Open With", and
browse to select PPTVIEW.EXE.
Microsoft PPT staff monitoring this discussion group - I sincerely request
that you post a reply (in this thread) confirming this BUG in PPTVIEW.EXE
(Office 2003, PPTVIEW Version 11.0.5530.0). It simply does NOT behave in the
same (correct) way that the full PowerPoint does, even with the simplest
(test) PPT. I found virtually nothing in MS KB or anywhere on microsoft.com
so far about this, but I really think all users need to know. Please also
publish a KB article to help the next person (including keywords PPTVIEW,
viewer, scroll, wheel, mouse, 2003) and give a link to that KB as you reply
to this thread.
Anyone (MS staff, MVP, or other PPT user like me), please give me any
known PPTVIEW 2003 workaround (if ANY exists???).
 
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John Langhans [MSFT]

[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]

Hello,

Thank-you for the detailed description. Both a Bug report and a KB article
suggestion have been filed.

At this time there is no workaround available.

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation
Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows

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Steve Rindsberg

Thank-you for the detailed description. Both a Bug report and a KB article
suggestion have been filed.

At this time there is no workaround available.

Use a mouse w/o a scrollwheel ... ;-)

(I'm gonna turn a tidy profit on The Big Box 'o Meeses yet, I just KNOW it.)
 

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