Registry Issues and more

Discussion in 'Windows XP New Users' started by PJC, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. PJC

    PJC Guest

    I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower, and
    despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install. Downloaded
    and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is there a way
    the layman can get this machine working faster?
     
    PJC, Feb 4, 2009
    #1
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  2. PJC wrote:
    > I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower, and
    > despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    > mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install. Downloaded
    > and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is there a way
    > the layman can get this machine working faster?



    Many. And none of them entail using any "snake oil" registry cleaners.
    However, at this point, having used such tools, you may not be able to
    recover full and proper operation of the OS.

    Periodically performing a disk clean-up and defragmentation using
    WinXP's built-in tools can greatly help keep your PC performing at its
    best. Also, make sure that your system is completely free of malware.


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    Bruce Chambers, Feb 4, 2009
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  3. PJC

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Instead of trying this, that and the other thing, you start by
    identifying the cause of your problem. Only then will you know how to
    solve it.

    Computers naturally grow slower over time, as additional software is
    added. Furthermore, everyone has their own idea of what "slow" means.

    The only thing we know about your computer is that it was made by Dell,
    it runs some version of Windows XP, and that you think it's slow. That's
    not nearly enough information to pinpoint a cause for your slowness.
    Unless you can offer some possible clues, you'll have to perform generic
    troubleshooting.
    ---
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    Errare humanum est

    PJC wrote:
    > I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower, and
    > despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    > mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install. Downloaded
    > and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is there a way
    > the layman can get this machine working faster?
     
    Leonard Grey, Feb 4, 2009
    #3
  4. PJC

    JS Guest

    Try a 'System Restore',
    pick a restore point dated before you used Registry Mechanic.

    If your lucky you will at least be back to your PC being slow
    but everything still runs without errors.

    Then get rid of any registry cleaners and then follow
    Bruce's advice about:
    "performing a disk clean-up and defragmentation".

    Then post back if you need more help.

    --
    JS
    http://www.pagestart.com


    "PJC" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower,
    >and
    > despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    > mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install.
    > Downloaded
    > and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is there a way
    > the layman can get this machine working faster?
     
    JS, Feb 4, 2009
    #4
  5. "PJC" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower,
    >and
    > despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    > mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install.
    > Downloaded
    > and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is there a way
    > the layman can get this machine working faster?


    defraggler.com

    Advanced system care.com
     
    W****n S***********g, Feb 7, 2009
    #5
  6. PJC

    tech_nova Guest

    Hi,

    When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    recommended...




    --
    tech_nova
     
    tech_nova, Feb 12, 2009
    #6
  7. PJC

    Malke Guest

    tech_nova wrote:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    > computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    > cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    > removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    > or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    > you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    > manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    > recommended...


    This is completely false and potentially destructive.

    To the OP: see this link for why:
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 - registry cleaner thread

    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
     
    Malke, Feb 12, 2009
    #7
  8. PJC

    Malke Guest

    PJC wrote:

    > I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and slower,
    > and
    > despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried registry
    > mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't install.
    > Downloaded and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing registry files....is
    > there a way the layman can get this machine working faster?


    You've probably already caused more issues by running the Optimizer and
    Registry Mechanic. If those programs have an Undo feature, use it.

    To speed up a slow machine:

    1. Make sure it is virus/malware-free:
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

    2. Also see Slow or Sluggish Computer:
    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
    http://aumha.org/a/health.htm - Take Out the Trash

    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
     
    Malke, Feb 12, 2009
    #8
  9. Not true at all.

    John

    tech_nova wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    > computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    > cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    > removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    > or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    > you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    > manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    > recommended...
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    John John (MVP), Feb 12, 2009
    #9
  10. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
    <> wrote:

    > Not true at all.



    Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
    statements, both of which are completely false:

    1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the performance
    of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.

    2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
    required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
    also completely false.




    > tech_nova wrote:
    >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    > > computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    > > cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    > > removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    > > or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    > > you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    > > manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    > > recommended...
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 12, 2009
    #10
  11. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    Malke wrote:
    > tech_nova wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >> removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >> softwares are recommended...

    >
    > This is completely false and potentially destructive.
    >
    > To the OP: see this link for why:
    > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 - registry cleaner thread
    >
    > Malke


    The link is self-serving, includes most of the same often used
    boilerplate he uses here, and in neneral just continues to contribute to
    the misinformation he's so proud of. He probably thinks he's getting
    the link well known by poking it in as a spamlet so often, but it is
    pretty obscure in reality and unknown by most who know hwo to find good
    information.
    Don't get me wrong; thre ARE some good articles there, but not from
    this ignoramus.

    Thanks for the opportunity,

    Twayne
     
    Twayne, Feb 12, 2009
    #11
  12. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    THAT is good advice! It's seldom that the registry is the root cause of
    a slow machine to any noticeable degree. Malware, corruption and
    settings are always the first things to look at.


    Malke wrote:
    > PJC wrote:
    >
    >> I have a Dell about 6 years old with XP. It has grown slower and
    >> slower, and
    >> despite my attempts to remedy, it's in tough shape. I've tried
    >> registry mechanic, now trying PC Pitstop Optimizer, but it won't
    >> install. Downloaded and ran WMIDiag and it notes many missing
    >> registry files....is there a way the layman can get this machine
    >> working faster?

    >
    > You've probably already caused more issues by running the Optimizer
    > and Registry Mechanic. If those programs have an Undo feature, use it.
    >
    > To speed up a slow machine:
    >
    > 1. Make sure it is virus/malware-free:
    > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
    >
    > 2. Also see Slow or Sluggish Computer:
    > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
    > http://aumha.org/a/health.htm - Take Out the Trash
    >
    > Malke
     
    Twayne, Feb 12, 2009
    #12
  13. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    John John arose from his potty chair and said
    :
    > Not true at all.


    Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that it
    took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this case
    part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only go there
    when other more likely causes have been repaired/eliminated. It also
    removed 14 over-length paths, 44 removed files and trash from 15
    previously uninstalled programs, each with a very long path. I jotted
    them down just to show you<g>.

    Twayne


    >
    > John
    >
    > tech_nova wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >> removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >> softwares are recommended...
     
    Twayne, Feb 12, 2009
    #13
  14. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> Not true at all.

    >
    >
    > Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
    > statements, both of which are completely false:


    No, you're wrong.
    >
    > 1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the performance
    > of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.


    *[sic]* ??

    Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but anything
    that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write thousands of
    registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in responsiveness that
    occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds say Microsoft Office to
    it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in several differing ways, one of
    which is registry related big time.
    >
    > 2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
    > required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
    > also completely false.


    Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
    simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
    "required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
    lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
    are those that like to point out that a program goes "directly" to the
    registry point it needs, but they neglect that fact that in order to do
    that, there is a lookup to find the address where that part of the
    registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are still part of the lookup
    process and must be handled. Removing it means it's not there to loop
    over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus less time consumed.
    Removing something lke MSOffice definitely results in a vry
    notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the leftovers from it often
    results in another, much smaller but still noticeable, increase in
    speed.
    The real problem is that registry problems are much more than simply
    unwanted entries; it's a much broader subject area.




    >
    >
    >
    >
    >> tech_nova wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >>> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >>> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >>> removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >>> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >>> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >>> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >>> softwares are recommended...
     
    Twayne, Feb 12, 2009
    #14
  15. PJC

    Unknown Guest

    Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you installed
    another program, can anyone detect that.
    You are arguing insignificant timings.
    "Twayne" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Not true at all.

    >>
    >>
    >> Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
    >> statements, both of which are completely false:

    >
    > No, you're wrong.
    >>
    >> 1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the performance
    >> of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.

    >
    > *[sic]* ??
    >
    > Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but anything
    > that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write thousands of
    > registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in responsiveness that
    > occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds say Microsoft Office to
    > it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in several differing ways, one of
    > which is registry related big time.
    >>
    >> 2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
    >> required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
    >> also completely false.

    >
    > Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's simply
    > the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not "required" to
    > remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which lowers the number
    > of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There are those that like
    > to point out that a program goes "directly" to the registry point it
    > needs, but they neglect that fact that in order to do that, there is a
    > lookup to find the address where that part of the registry lives, so ...
    > "unwanted" entries are still part of the lookup process and must be
    > handled. Removing it means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu
    > cycles, and thus less time consumed.
    > Removing something lke MSOffice definitely results in a vry notiecable
    > speed up, and then cleaning the leftovers from it often results in
    > another, much smaller but still noticeable, increase in speed.
    > The real problem is that registry problems are much more than simply
    > unwanted entries; it's a much broader subject area.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> tech_nova wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >>>> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >>>> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >>>> removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >>>> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >>>> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >>>> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >>>> softwares are recommended...

    >
    >
    >
     
    Unknown, Feb 12, 2009
    #15
  16. PJC

    Unknown Guest

    If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the cause than
    to run a registry cleaner.
    "Twayne" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > John John arose from his potty chair and said
    > :
    >> Not true at all.

    >
    > Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that it took
    > a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this case part of
    > the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only go there when
    > other more likely causes have been repaired/eliminated. It also removed
    > 14 over-length paths, 44 removed files and trash from 15 previously
    > uninstalled programs, each with a very long path. I jotted them down just
    > to show you<g>.
    >
    > Twayne
    >
    >
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >> tech_nova wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >>> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >>> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >>> removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >>> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >>> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >>> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >>> softwares are recommended...

    >
    >
    >
     
    Unknown, Feb 12, 2009
    #16
  17. tech_nova wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    > computer becomes poorer.



    No, that's completely untrue.


    > To boost computer performance,periodic
    > cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    > removed..


    No, that's completely untrue.


    > You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    > or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    > you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    > manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    > recommended...
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
    specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
    bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
    using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.

    A little further reading on the subject:

    Why I don't use registry cleaners
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

    AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
    Cleaner?
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


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    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
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    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Feb 13, 2009
    #17
  18. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    Unknown wrote:
    > If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the
    > cause than to run a registry cleaner.


    Uhh, when it's the design of the registry to allow 20 Seconds for the
    function to start up? When what it's calling doesn't exist, what would
    YOU suggest could be done otherwise? Or is the 20 S new to you?

    Jeez,

    Cheers,

    Twayne


    > "Twayne" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> John John arose from his potty chair and said
    >>>
    >>> Not true at all.

    >>
    >> Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that
    >> it took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this
    >> case part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only
    >> go there when other more likely causes have been
    >> repaired/eliminated. It also removed 14 over-length paths, 44
    >> removed files and trash from 15 previously uninstalled programs,
    >> each with a very long path. I jotted them down just to show you<g>.
    >>
    >> Twayne
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>> tech_nova wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >>>> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >>>> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
    >>>> be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >>>> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
    >>>> sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
    >>>> trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
    >>>> softwares are recommended...
     
    Twayne, Feb 16, 2009
    #18
  19. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    Unknown wrote:
    > Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you
    > installed another program, can anyone detect that.
    > You are arguing insignificant timings.


    I am not arguing; I am pointing out deficiencies in the same proportions
    as the claims. Learn to comprehend.

    > "Twayne" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Not true at all.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
    >>> statements, both of which are completely false:

    >>
    >> No, you're wrong.
    >>>
    >>> 1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the
    >>> performance of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.

    >>
    >> *[sic]* ??
    >>
    >> Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but
    >> anything that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write
    >> thousands of registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in
    >> responsiveness that occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds
    >> say Microsoft Office to it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in
    >> several differing ways, one of which is registry related big time.
    >>>
    >>> 2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
    >>> required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
    >>> also completely false.

    >>
    >> Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
    >> simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
    >> "required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
    >> lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
    >> are those that like to point out that a program goes
    >> "directly" to the registry point it needs, but they neglect that
    >> fact that in order to do that, there is a lookup to find the address
    >> where that part of the registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are
    >> still part of the lookup process and must be handled. Removing it
    >> means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus
    >> less time consumed. Removing something lke MSOffice definitely
    >> results in a vry notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the
    >> leftovers from it often results in another, much smaller but still
    >> noticeable, increase in speed. The real problem is that registry
    >> problems are much more than simply unwanted entries; it's a much
    >> broader subject area.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> tech_nova wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >>>>> computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
    >>>>> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
    >>>>> be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
    >>>>> manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software..
    >>>>> Make sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry
    >>>>> before trying it manually. For non technical users, registry
    >>>>> repair softwares are recommended...
     
    Twayne, Feb 16, 2009
    #19
  20. PJC

    Twayne Guest

    Bruce Chambers wrote:


    There's that silly boilerplate from the laziest closed mind here.

    > tech_nova wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
    >> computer becomes poorer.

    >
    >
    > No, that's completely untrue.


    It is impossible for that to be untrue. INstall XP, check the boot
    time. Install MS Office and check the boot time again. ARe they
    identical? I don't THINK so! The computer performance HAS gotten
    slower! Quit being an idiot!

    >
    >
    >> To boost computer performance,periodic
    >> cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
    >> removed..

    >
    > No, that's completely untrue.


    No, it is NOT completely untrue at all. Your'e as far left as that
    statement is right. It's actually a good idea and prevents the
    possibilty of the buildup of useless database occupation over time
    resulting in more code that can corrupt to possible inadvertant pickups
    on an old entry to actual slowing down on the machine. It IS true that
    cleaners are probably run more often than necessary, but that's no big
    deal since they will do no harm. Many MS programs and functions are a
    LOT more dangerous than any registry cleaner. It's fact of life that MS
    isn't stable all the time, although it's now considerably improved, but
    the likelihood of a good cleaner rendering problems is as remote as any
    other program on the machine, more remote in most cases.
    >
    >
    >> You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
    >> or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
    >> you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
    >> manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
    >> recommended...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >


    Silly boilerplate snipped.
    ....
    >
    > A little further reading on the subject:


    That's not reading: It's SPAM!
    >
    > Why I don't use registry cleaners
    > http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

    We all know why YOU don't use registry cleaners.
    Self serving article contrinbuted to by ... guess who? And I don't mean
    me!
    >
    > AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
    > Cleaner?
    > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


    Same thing. Spamming for his favorite place to get authored. You don't
    have to be accurate to post your spews there, just willing to help
    perpetuate their crappiness.


    Regards,

    Twayne
     
    Twayne, Feb 16, 2009
    #20
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