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GeneR

I've just discovered the RECYCLER folder! I was
searching for a file and found it the RECYCLER folder.

Just to make sure, here is my understanding of how
deleting works When I delete a file it will be
logically, not physically, moved to the Recycle Bin.
It's still on the disk so it could be recovered. When I
empty the Recycle Bin the file's disk space is
catagorized as "free" although the file is not physically
erased. As the file system alocates physical disk space
to new file storage requirements it may use that space
occupied by the "permenantly" deleted file. Only then
would the deleted file be overwriten, perhaps only in
part. Special uncommon software could retrieve the file
parts not overwriten. This has been a great boon to the
writers of crime/espionage stories such as CSI, 24 or Law
and Order :)

Now I discover the RECYCLER Folder. Is this an alias for
the Recycle Bin? Again as I understand it, that folder
holds the links to any file that has been permaently
deleated. I guess that that is where the file management
system looks for reuseable physical space.

How'm I doing so far?

I stumbled on Recycle when, as I wrote, I was looking for
a particular file. In frustration I used the dropdown
list of the relate application and there was the file in
the list. There were other files listed some of whom I'm
sure had also been deleted. When I clicked on my refound
file, the file opened. I used My Computer and to confirm
that the file was there. Of coures it was. I copied the
file to the folder I wanted it to be in. I clicked on
other deleated files in the application's dropdown list.
Most returned a error message saying that the path was
not valid.

So finally here are my questions;

How come the application knew the Recycle path to find
the file when the path was now different from when I last
used the application to work with the file?

How come other deleted files could not similarly be
retrieved?

I tried to delete the sub folder in Recycle but the
System said that I could not because it was write
protected. The Knowledge base says that I need the right
privilages. I thought that I had those since I'm an
administrator. How can I get rid of the file and the
Recycle sub folder that hold it?

Can someone point me to specific article or references
that will help me to understand more or better?

GeneR
 
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dev

GeneR said:

I've just discovered the RECYCLER folder! I was
searching for a file and found it the RECYCLER folder.

Just to make sure, here is my understanding of how
deleting works When I delete a file it will be
logically, not physically, moved to the Recycle Bin.
It's still on the disk so it could be recovered. When I
empty the Recycle Bin the file's disk space is
catagorized as "free" although the file is not physically
erased. As the file system alocates physical disk space
to new file storage requirements it may use that space
occupied by the "permenantly" deleted file. Only then
would the deleted file be overwriten, perhaps only in
part. Special uncommon software could retrieve the file
parts not overwriten. This has been a great boon to the
writers of crime/espionage stories such as CSI, 24 or Law
and Order :)

Now I discover the RECYCLER Folder. Is this an alias for
the Recycle Bin? Again as I understand it, that folder
holds the links to any file that has been permaently
deleated. I guess that that is where the file management
system looks for reuseable physical space.

How'm I doing so far?

I stumbled on Recycle when, as I wrote, I was looking for
a particular file. In frustration I used the dropdown
list of the relate application and there was the file in
the list. There were other files listed some of whom I'm
sure had also been deleted. When I clicked on my refound
file, the file opened. I used My Computer and to confirm
that the file was there. Of coures it was. I copied the
file to the folder I wanted it to be in. I clicked on
other deleated files in the application's dropdown list.
Most returned a error message saying that the path was
not valid.

So finally here are my questions;

How come the application knew the Recycle path to find
the file when the path was now different from when I last
used the application to work with the file?

How come other deleted files could not similarly be
retrieved?

I tried to delete the sub folder in Recycle but the
System said that I could not because it was write
protected. The Knowledge base says that I need the right
privilages. I thought that I had those since I'm an
administrator. How can I get rid of the file and the
Recycle sub folder that hold it?

Can someone point me to specific article or references
that will help me to understand more or better?

Kelly's link below has some insights. Click on "R", then scroll down to...
"Recycle Bin - Deleting Problems"
 
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Alex Nichol

GeneR said:
I've just discovered the RECYCLER folder! I was
searching for a file and found it the RECYCLER folder.

Just to make sure, here is my understanding of how
deleting works When I delete a file it will be
logically, not physically, moved to the Recycle Bin.
It's still on the disk so it could be recovered. When I
empty the Recycle Bin the file's disk space is
catagorized as "free" although the file is not physically
erased. As the file system alocates physical disk space
to new file storage requirements it may use that space
occupied by the "permenantly" deleted file. Only then
would the deleted file be overwriten, perhaps only in
part. Special uncommon software could retrieve the file
parts not overwriten. This has been a great boon to the
writers of crime/espionage stories such as CSI, 24 or Law
and Order :)

Right enough
Now I discover the RECYCLER Folder. Is this an alias for
the Recycle Bin?

Because of the way it works - by just moving the directory info to its
own folder - the Bin mechanism has its own folder on each partition. On
a FAT 32 one it is called _RECYCLED. On an NTFS one it is Recycler, and
it has a folder in it for the files deleted by each individual user, so
that he sees only his own deletions when looking in the bin
 

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