problem installing Diamond AGP card

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Diamond Monster Fusion AGP

Either this graphics card is a pile of shite or I'm doing something wrong...
I have what I think is a Diamond Monster Fusion AGP graphics card but I
can't get it to work properly.
I tried to get support but at http://www.diamondmm.com it laughably said:
'On August 26, 2003, Best Data Products Inc. acquired certain trade names
and inventory of Diamond Multimedia's SupraMax communication division....At
this time, Best Data does not have access to drivers for Stealth, Viper,
Monster, or other Diamond graphics cards..In the meantime, customers
interested in obtaining drivers for Diamond graphics cards should check
third party web sites...'

yeah thanks a lot Diamond.

At http://home.freeuk.net/tonj/graphics/agp.htm there are pictures of the
card if you have a second to take a look.
My OS is Win98 SE. I've tried bestnf.zip, vb-w9z-figs-1.04.00.zip,
fus95213.exe, fus9X213.exe, m3d1600.exe and mnstr2207.exe. None of these
drivers make this card work properly. On reboot into Windows I always get a
box comes up saying there's a fault with my display adapter. It will only
work on low resolutions at max 256 colours and it should be much better than
this. I expect I'm using the wrong driver but I'm finding it hard
extablishing exactly what kind of card this is and which driver is correct.

Thanks for any help.
 
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ps: I've just installed W2K Pro on a formatted HD in a PC with this Diamond
AGP card fitted and it'as working fine. However it shows up in the display
properties as a 3Dfx Interactive, Inc Banshee. Under Adapter information it
says:
Chip Type: 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee
DAC Type: 3Dfx Internal DAC
Memory size: 16Mb
Adapter string: 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee Board
Bios Information: no rom detected.

Is this just Win2k using a different name? or should I be looking for a
Windows 98 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee driver?
 
S

Shep©

Diamond Monster Fusion AGP

Either this graphics card is a pile of shite or I'm doing something wrong...
I have what I think is a Diamond Monster Fusion AGP graphics card but I
can't get it to work properly.
I tried to get support but at http://www.diamondmm.com it laughably said:
'On August 26, 2003, Best Data Products Inc. acquired certain trade names
and inventory of Diamond Multimedia's SupraMax communication division....At
this time, Best Data does not have access to drivers for Stealth, Viper,
Monster, or other Diamond graphics cards..In the meantime, customers
interested in obtaining drivers for Diamond graphics cards should check
third party web sites...'

yeah thanks a lot Diamond.

At http://home.freeuk.net/tonj/graphics/agp.htm there are pictures of the
card if you have a second to take a look.
My OS is Win98 SE. I've tried bestnf.zip, vb-w9z-figs-1.04.00.zip,
fus95213.exe, fus9X213.exe, m3d1600.exe and mnstr2207.exe. None of these
drivers make this card work properly. On reboot into Windows I always get a
box comes up saying there's a fault with my display adapter. It will only
work on low resolutions at max 256 colours and it should be much better than
this. I expect I'm using the wrong driver but I'm finding it hard
extablishing exactly what kind of card this is and which driver is correct.

Thanks for any help.
Click to expand...
Check the Device Manager using Safemode.Click here for why,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/drivers.html
Does your mother board require an updated AGP drivers pack?
Also for more drivers,
http://members.driverguide.com/ums/index.php?action=l
username: drivers
password: all

HTH :)



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V W Wall

net said:
ps: I've just installed W2K Pro on a formatted HD in a PC with this Diamond
AGP card fitted and it'as working fine. However it shows up in the display
properties as a 3Dfx Interactive, Inc Banshee. Under Adapter information it
says:
Chip Type: 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee
DAC Type: 3Dfx Internal DAC
Memory size: 16Mb
Adapter string: 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee Board
Bios Information: no rom detected.

Is this just Win2k using a different name? or should I be looking for a
Windows 98 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee driver?
Click to expand...

If you can get into DOS with debug available:

debug <enter>
- (debug prompt)
dc000:0040 <enter>

You should see info on vidio card to the right of display. Type "d" <enter>
to see next dump.

I have two older Diamond cards, (Stealth and Viper), and they both use
S3 SAVAGE 2000. You might try a S3 driver.

Virg Wall
 
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V W Wall said:
If you can get into DOS with debug available:

debug <enter>
- (debug prompt)
dc000:0040 <enter>

You should see info on vidio card to the right of display. Type "d"
Click to expand...
to see next dump.
Click to expand...

thanks for your response Virg.
how does one get into DOS with debug?
 
V

V W Wall

net said:
thanks for your response Virg.
how does one get into DOS with debug?
Click to expand...

Have not used Win2K, but you can always get into DOS with a boot disk
with DOS system files and a copy of debug on it. I don't think debug
is on some of the standard boot disks, but it's easy enough to make one
by doing format /s on a 1.44MB floppy, and then copying debug to it.

Virg Wall
 
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V W Wall said:
Have not used Win2K, but you can always get into DOS with a boot disk
with DOS system files and a copy of debug on it. I don't think debug
is on some of the standard boot disks, but it's easy enough to make one
by doing format /s on a 1.44MB floppy, and then copying debug to it.
Click to expand...

okay thanks I'll try that
 
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V W Wall said:
Have not used Win2K, but you can always get into DOS with a boot disk
with DOS system files and a copy of debug on it. I don't think debug
is on some of the standard boot disks, but it's easy enough to make one
by doing format /s on a 1.44MB floppy, and then copying debug to it.
Click to expand...


okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
..X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
....Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
 
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Shep©

V W Wall said:
Have not used Win2K, but you can always get into DOS with a boot disk
with DOS system files and a copy of debug on it. I don't think debug
is on some of the standard boot disks, but it's easy enough to make one
by doing format /s on a 1.44MB floppy, and then copying debug to it.
Click to expand...


okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
.X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
...Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
Click to expand...

Diamond are no more.
It's a 3dfx card.You can get drivers here,
http://www.driverguide.com/
username drivers
password all

HTH :)



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V W Wall

okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
.X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
...Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
Click to expand...

That's about all you can expect from debug. It can't tell you more than what
the vender put in the firmware in the card. It's handy sometimes, 'cause you
don't have to open the case. My Viper card read: (Also not much help.)

Viper II Z200 BIOS
Version 3.1C.09,DMM-01
-5934 Video Memory
Copyright 2000 by
Diamond Multimedia
02/25/00

Try Shep's suggestion for driverguide.com

Virg Wall
 
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V W Wall said:
net said:
okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
.X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
...Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
Click to expand...

Try here: http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/35/35224.htm
Click to expand...
yes thanks virg I've already tried fus9X213.exe but had no joy. I've also
tried bestnf.zip, vb-w9z-figs-1.04.00.zip, fusion.zip, fus95213.exe,
m3d1600.exe, icuvgagw816d.zip and mnstr2207.exe. None work properly. Some of
them - fus9X213.exe included - will install fine, but won't then work
properly in setting the screen resolution. The best I get is 256 colours at
800x600 which is clearly not right for this card. What's also notable is
I've seen this card work perfectly at 16bit/1024x786 in another PC with
Win98. Where the driver came from no-one knows but it appeared in Device
Manager as a Diamond Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98.
When I've tried to install it it shows up exactly the same - a Diamond
Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98 but it doesn't work properly. I'm
installing the card into a brand new Win98 setup with nothing else installed
so there's nothing to conflict or get in the way.
This leaves me thinking there must be another driver out there somewhere
that produces the same name in Device Manager but has different contents.
 
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Shep©

V W Wall said:
net said:
okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
.X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
...Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
Click to expand...

Try here: http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/35/35224.htm
Click to expand...
yes thanks virg I've already tried fus9X213.exe but had no joy. I've also
tried bestnf.zip, vb-w9z-figs-1.04.00.zip, fusion.zip, fus95213.exe,
m3d1600.exe, icuvgagw816d.zip and mnstr2207.exe. None work properly. Some of
them - fus9X213.exe included - will install fine, but won't then work
properly in setting the screen resolution. The best I get is 256 colours at
800x600 which is clearly not right for this card. What's also notable is
I've seen this card work perfectly at 16bit/1024x786 in another PC with
Win98. Where the driver came from no-one knows but it appeared in Device
Manager as a Diamond Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98.
When I've tried to install it it shows up exactly the same - a Diamond
Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98 but it doesn't work properly. I'm
installing the card into a brand new Win98 setup with nothing else installed
so there's nothing to conflict or get in the way.
This leaves me thinking there must be another driver out there somewhere
that produces the same name in Device Manager but has different contents.
Click to expand...

Use Safemode/Device Manager as per,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/drivers.html


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Shep©

thanks for your response shep.
When I install drivers I am definitely installing into a clean space.
There's no trace of any previous driver install.
Click to expand...

That's not my point.Install the driver you said will go in.Then boot
to Safemode and remove all the driver entries from the device Manager
for the display adaptor and re-boot.Also install your mother board
specific AGP or VGA updated driver pack.



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V W Wall said:
net wrote:
Click to expand...
Problem solved. It was the adapter refresh setting. It was on adapter
default. I changed it to optimal. Wallah. 16bit colour at 1024x768.
Thanks for your help along the way virg.
 
V

V W Wall

net said:
V W Wall said:
net said:
okay, I managed to run debug and it said:
051562LGD
.X. DMonster Fusion
Vers. 1:2064803 Diamond
Multimedia Systems,
Inc.....U. >.....i
3r.. ']......F.
...Y.....G...............

I've tried using this data in google but I still can't find an alternative
driver to the ones I've tried already. Whaddya think?
Click to expand...

Try here: http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/35/35224.htm
Click to expand...
yes thanks virg I've already tried fus9X213.exe but had no joy. I've also
tried bestnf.zip, vb-w9z-figs-1.04.00.zip, fusion.zip, fus95213.exe,
m3d1600.exe, icuvgagw816d.zip and mnstr2207.exe. None work properly. Some of
them - fus9X213.exe included - will install fine, but won't then work
properly in setting the screen resolution. The best I get is 256 colours at
800x600 which is clearly not right for this card. What's also notable is
I've seen this card work perfectly at 16bit/1024x786 in another PC with
Win98. Where the driver came from no-one knows but it appeared in Device
Manager as a Diamond Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98.
When I've tried to install it it shows up exactly the same - a Diamond
Monster Fusion AGP for Windows 98 but it doesn't work properly. I'm
installing the card into a brand new Win98 setup with nothing else installed
so there's nothing to conflict or get in the way.
This leaves me thinking there must be another driver out there somewhere
that produces the same name in Device Manager but has different contents.
Click to expand...

Sorry about that. It could be the driver that works has the same name but
is a different version or update. My Divice Manager, under driver details,
shows a driver by S3 incorporated. Any clues there for what you're using?

Virg Wall
 
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Shep©

Problem solved. It was the adapter refresh setting. It was on adapter
default. I changed it to optimal. Wallah. 16bit colour at 1024x768.
Click to expand...

Damn.I forgot that and it's on here,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/video.html
Heh.Heh.My very 1st S3 card was like this.Always had to change from
the adaptor default :O)



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