Off Topic Question: Outlook 2003

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Guest

Greetings! Pardon the off topic post, however, knowing the expertise and
willingness to help exhibited by this group, I felt comfortable putting this
quick question: I purchased a stand-alone CD version of Outlook 2003 to
install on an older Dell notebook. The short of it, the notebook hard drive
crashed. I have ordered a new Dell Inspiron 710M. Can I install my CD version
of Outlook 2003 on my new Dell? I did actually install and activate the
Outlook on the old notebook. What's the verdict?

Thanks & God Bless!

Rick
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

You can do this regardless of whether you installed and activated on the now
dead machine--i.e. you are legally entitled to do it.

I don't see sufficient evidence in your post to know whether you indeed
completed the install, and then activated--which is a separate process, as I
recall. At worst, you will need to activate via a phone call and explain
what happened. This is my understanding, based primarily on my knowledge
about Windows activation. Office is a separate process, and may have
slightly different rules, but the legal basis is the same--you didn't lose
the right to move the software from one machine to another because it might
have been activated on the first machine.
 
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Guest

Thanks, Bill! My confidence in you and this group was indeed well placed and
rewarded with a quick response! I was thinking along the same line as you
regarding the re-installation of Outlook; however, I haven't been able to
find any support documentation to verify what we are thinking/saying. One
thing for sure, since I have the CD bought and paid for my me and have my
Product Key, I absolutely will try to install Outlook on my new Dell when it
arrives next week!

Thanks & God Bless!
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

You might post back here about how it goes. If you have trouble, we may be
able to find a support mechanism that will help, and if you don't have
trouble, it will be a useful read for the folks who are worried about this
kind of issue.

--
 
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Guest

Absolutely! I will indeed post back with whatever the results are in an
effort to document this situation and help others.

Thanks & God Bless!
 
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Stephen Boots MVP-MSN Client

Thanks, Bill! My confidence in you and this group was indeed well placed and
rewarded with a quick response! I was thinking along the same line as you
regarding the re-installation of Outlook; however, I haven't been able to
find any support documentation to verify what we are thinking/saying. One
thing for sure, since I have the CD bought and paid for my me and have my
Product Key, I absolutely will try to install Outlook on my new Dell when it
arrives next week!
Bill is correct, Rick. If it is a retail copy of Outlook, you should
not encounter any problems installing and activating on the new PC. If
Activation is a problem for any reason, you will be given the
opportunity for phone activation.
The only time you are not entitled to install to a new PC is when the
copy is an OEM copy of software or operating system that it sold as
part of the original PC at a discounted rate - and tied to the
hardware it is sold with. Retail software is not bound by this.
-steve
 
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Guest

Thanks Stephen! I appreciate that welcome response! Indeed this is a "retail
copy" of Outlook 2003 (stand alone) that I ordered online from Microsoft, so
I have the original CD. To your point, I do have an OEM version of Outlook
2003 installed on my Dell Inspiron 6000 as a part of the Dell-installed
Office package. This of course can not be re-installed on another computer,
as you mentioned. As an interesting side note on this issue, I also have
purchased a retail version CD of Symantec Norton SystemWorks 2006 from
Symantec online. Symantec informed me that I purchased the licensed product
to be installed once on one computer. Period. One license, one installation,
one computer. Apparently when the Symantec product is installed on the
computer and activated that is it. This is extremely disappointing to me
because this is a situation where I have an office computer and am purchasing
a notebook computer to be used by me in the my field work. Both computers are
mine, used only by me. Ridiculous to me that I would have purchase to copies
of a product.

Thanks & God Bless!
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

Rick said:
one computer. Apparently when the Symantec product is installed on the
computer and activated that is it. This is extremely disappointing to me
because this is a situation where I have an office computer and am
purchasing
a notebook computer to be used by me in the my field work. Both computers
are
mine, used only by me. Ridiculous to me that I would have purchase to
copies
of a product.

This particular situation is one which you need to investigate carefully
before any purchase. Windows, for example, is licensed per machine--there's
no license to run it on a second machine--even, for example, a Virtual PC
running on the same physical hardware.

Retail copies of Microsoft Office, I believe--DO confer such a license--but
you need to read carefully, ideally before buying. I believe that OEM
copies don't have this "second machine used only by original licensee"
privilege.

I suspect such licensing allowing for a second install is probably the
exception, these days, rather than the rule.

FWIW, Microsoft's OneCare antivirus suite product does have a license
allowing for use on up to three machines (perhaps with a "same household"
restriction?) for the same price.
 
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Guest

Yeah I think you are right, Bill. The rule has overtaken the exception! I
agree completely with your surmise that it's important to read the EULA
(assuming you have taken a week off from everything else to allow the time!).
However, sometimes it is difficult to predict that one will, say, need
another computer in the business or other variables that are difficult at
best to forecast. Alas, it all comes down to the mighty $, I guess. On a
rather positive note, I did convince Symantec to give me a 50% discount on
purchasing another copy of SystemWorks 2006 for my new Dell!!

Thanks & God Bless!
 
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Bill Sanderson MVP

Excellent--glad they were flexible!
--

Rick said:
Yeah I think you are right, Bill. The rule has overtaken the exception! I
agree completely with your surmise that it's important to read the EULA
(assuming you have taken a week off from everything else to allow the
time!).
However, sometimes it is difficult to predict that one will, say, need
another computer in the business or other variables that are difficult at
best to forecast. Alas, it all comes down to the mighty $, I guess. On a
rather positive note, I did convince Symantec to give me a 50% discount on
purchasing another copy of SystemWorks 2006 for my new Dell!!

Thanks & God Bless!
 
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Walterius

I did convince Symantec to give me a 50% discount on purchasing another
copy of
SystemWorks 2006 for my new Dell!!

So you're only getting 50% as screwed.

Symantec are people I stay away from.
 
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Guest

Greetings Walterius! I guess it depends if you think the glass is half empty
or half full. Symantec just happens (IMHO) to have the best total package
systems for integrated protection for all aspects of the computing
environment, with the combination of SystemWorks and Norton Internet
Security. The proof is in the pudding, and indeed my "pudding" aka my systems
have been virus, worm, Trojan, pop-up etc etc etc FREE for a long, long
time--as long as I have used Symantec products. Their products integrate
extremely seamlessly with my Dell notebook systems and Windows XP Pro. So,
while you contend that I am getting 50% (pardon your French) "screwed"; I
contend that Symantec is generously giving me a 50% discount when they
certainly did not have to give me anything!

God Bless!

Rick
www.EmbraceHisGrace.com
 
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Pat Willener

Not a problem with me for a little OT post. Just F.Y.I. there is an
excellent Outlook newsgroup with many helpful people if you have some
serious Outlook question(s):
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.general
 
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Pat Willener

The view on Symantec and their products is very divided, and I think the
divide goes right between those who have been bitten by one of their
products (or their support), and those who have not (yet) been.

I am one who would never let anything Norton or Symantec near my
computers, but I can also tell you also that none of my systems was ever
infected with any malware.

Not trying to start a war of words (about Norton/Symantec); just trying
to state that you don't need anything from them for secure and safe
computing.
 
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Guest

Thanks, Pat, I appreciate the link. I am aware of that group and have indeed
posted there; however, as I indicated in my initial post, I respect and trust
many of the "regulars" in this particular group and thusly sought their
advice and input. Hence, the off topic post for which I do apologize.

God Bless!
 
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Walterius

my systems have been virus, worm, Trojan, pop-up etc etc etc FREE for a
long, long time--> as long as I have used Symantec products.

So have mine, and I have never used a pay-for product. I use six freeware
pgms, and they protect me perfectly. (One of them found a virus trying to
sneak onto my computer the other day and I almost fainted. "A *virus*?
What's that?") Plus, of course, I never go to suspicious sites. <g> Well,
almost never. I also only download from reputable sites (e.g.
www.nonagsplus.com) and I virus check all downloads anyway.

And I *never* get any spam, either, but that's another story.

I belong to the other half of the Symantec community--the half that believes
that using Symantec products is BOHICA ("Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!").
:)

Walterius Oldfartus
 

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