new hard drive + old hard drive

[wonderboy]

I think I need you guys help here.
My old custom-built computer's hard drive is running out of space and
it's messed up and registry doesn't look good.
I was given used 20GB and try to install as local(bootable) hard
drive(C and want to use old hard drive(13GB) as back-up storage(F
I have XP installed now and have a CD for XP and want to clean install
on new 20GB.
I know to how to hook up and set up master and slave and configure
bios etc and install XP with clean installation.
What I want to find out is I want to use the program in old hard
drive.
As far as I know,It must be re-installed onto new hard drive in order
to work.
But there are so many program and utility I do not have the CDs.

When most people upgrages their hard drive,I know they might use
harddrive package-come along-utility OR the prgram such as ghost and
drive copy or image in order to copy whole drive.
But my problem is I want clean installed XP on new hard drive and
still want to use the program in the slave-connected old hard drive
excluding XP.
Is it possible? Only way is re-install the program on new hard drive?
Or ghost or other program let me just copy the program and allow it to
work under clean-installed XP?
HELP~!
Thanks in advance.

 

[Larry Weak]

sorry for top posting but think there is a wizard for setting and file
transfer in xp take a look before you do install and might be what you are
looking for.

Larry

 

[Jed Sheckler]

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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: new hard drive + old hard drive

sorry for top posting but think there is a wizard for setting and file
transfer in xp take a look before you do install and might be what you are
looking for.

The file and settings transfer wizard will move exactly that -- your files
and settings. It will not, however, move your programs. Programs generally
have an installer program that is separate from the actual program. That
installer creates the files and sets the references needed for that program
to work, and copying programs does not generally work without re-installing
them. There is some software available, such as PC Relocator that is
supposed to move programs, but I've not had good success with that working.
I find that a clean OS install with clean installs of all programs is the
best way to have a fast, reliable OS for the long run. In the future make
sure to hang on to all those install disks and to archive any programs you
download from the internet!

 

[Grimly Fiendish]

I think I need you guys help here.
My old custom-built computer's hard drive is running out of space and
it's messed up and registry doesn't look good.
I was given used 20GB and try to install as local(bootable) hard
drive(C and want to use old hard drive(13GB) as back-up storage(F
I have XP installed now and have a CD for XP and want to clean install
on new 20GB.
I know to how to hook up and set up master and slave and configure
bios etc and install XP with clean installation.
What I want to find out is I want to use the program in old hard
drive.
As far as I know,It must be re-installed onto new hard drive in order
to work.
But there are so many program and utility I do not have the CDs.

When most people upgrages their hard drive,I know they might use
harddrive package-come along-utility OR the prgram such as ghost and
drive copy or image in order to copy whole drive.
But my problem is I want clean installed XP on new hard drive and
still want to use the program in the slave-connected old hard drive
excluding XP.
Is it possible? Only way is re-install the program on new hard drive?
Or ghost or other program let me just copy the program and allow it to
work under clean-installed XP?
HELP~!
Thanks in advance.

What Jed said is correct, you want to transfer programs, forget it. Here is
what you can do, at the risk of sounding like CG, suck it and see. Some
programs may still work if they are not to dependant on files loaded by the
registry or in the windows system folder, others will not. For those that
will not you will have to re-install, kiss them goodbye or spend a lot of
time and effort trying to make them work.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Thank you for reply, guys.
Guess I have to give up.
I guess I have to re-install program that I have CDs for on new drive.

Or export the program's registry entries from the old harddrive OS and
import them to the new harddrive OS's registry.

Only way to use non-transferable program in old hard drive is set this
hard drive as master, I guess

Oh, what for? What exactly do you think that will accomplish?

Here is what I have now.
I (will) have two hard drives and one CD-RW(master) and one
DVD-ROM(slave).
Each hard drive will have own XP since I will clean-install on new
hard drive.

So new hard drive will be master and old mess-up hard will be slave.

Yup, so?

Since I can't use the program in old hard drive, I will have to boot on
old hard drive whenever I need to use the program in the old hard drive.

Or export the program's registry enties from the old harddrive OS and
import them to the new harddrive OS's registry.

It will be a big pain to open the case and switch the cable.

Uhuh, and what on earth would you want to do that for?

Is there any program will allow me to choose which hard drive I want
to boot on?

Ever heard of a thing that goes under the name of 'BIOS'?
What exactly do you think this entry 'BootSequence' in the BIOS setup
is all about? Learn how to use your MainBoard Setup program.

I can set as
new hard drive(master) and CD-RW(slave)
old hard drive(master) and DVD-ROM(slave).
this set up will make it easy?

Make easy what?

 

[Laurence Payne]

What I want to find out is I want to use the program in old hard

drive.
As far as I know,It must be re-installed onto new hard drive in order
to work.
But there are so many program and utility I do not have the CDs.

Forget about it. You'll need the installation CDs etc. for the
programs.

 

[wonderboy]

Thank you for reply,guys.
Guess I have to give up.
I guess I have to re-install program that I have CDs for on new drive.
Only way to use non-transferable program in old hard drive is set this
hard drive as master,I guess
Here is what I have now.
I (will) have two hard drives and one CD-RW(master) and one
DVD-ROM(slave).
Each hard drive will have own XP since I will clean-install on new
hard drive.
So new hard drive will be master and old mess-up hard will be slave.
Since I can't use the program in old hard drive,I will have to boot on
old hard drive whenever I need to use the program in the old hard
drive.
It will be a big pain to open the case and switch the cable.
Is there any program will allow me to choose which hard drive I want
to boot on?
I can set as
new hard drive(master) and CD-RW(slave)
old hard drive(master) and DVD-ROM(slave).
this set up will make it easy?
I am not looking partition since each drive has OS on it.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Grimly Fiendish]

Thank you for reply,guys.
Guess I have to give up.
I guess I have to re-install program that I have CDs for on new drive.
Only way to use non-transferable program in old hard drive is set this
hard drive as master,I guess

No it won't make antdifference if you do a clean install, the o/s won't be
associated with it.

Here is what I have now.
I (will) have two hard drives and one CD-RW(master) and one
DVD-ROM(slave).
Each hard drive will have own XP since I will clean-install on new
hard drive.
So new hard drive will be master and old mess-up hard will be slave.
Since I can't use the program in old hard drive,I will have to boot on
old hard drive whenever I need to use the program in the old hard
drive.
It will be a big pain to open the case and switch the cable.
Is there any program will allow me to choose which hard drive I want
to boot on?

Windows XP will boot from either via the loader and boot.ini, you don't need
anything else, just make sure both drives are connected as you intend to
keep them when you set XP up.

I can set as new hard drive(master) and CD-RW(slave)
old hard drive(master) and DVD-ROM(slave).
this set up will make it easy?

Yes that will be the best layout imo.

 

[Laurence Payne]

No it won't make antdifference if you do a clean install, the o/s won't be
associated with it.

You said your present installation, though it has problems, is
runnable? If so, leave it completely alone and continue to run it
when you need the programs on it.

You don't need to mess with cable-changing. If you install a new XP
on your new primary drive you just need a simple modification of the
boot.ini file to allow a multi-boot option.

I discover that there ARE programs that claim to extract complete
program installations from one computer so they may be installed on
another. Does anyone have more information?

What are these irreplaceable programs, anyway? Can't you borrow the
installation disks the same place you did before?

 

[Ruel Smith]

I think I need you guys help here.
My old custom-built computer's hard drive is running out of space and
it's messed up and registry doesn't look good.
I was given used 20GB and try to install as local(bootable) hard
drive(C and want to use old hard drive(13GB) as back-up storage(F
I have XP installed now and have a CD for XP and want to clean install
on new 20GB.

A 20GB hard drive will disappear fast with Windows XP and modern software,
unless you keep a very barebones system. Remember that a 20GB hard drive
will net you about 18.5GB after formatting, and you should keep extra room
on the disk to allow files to be manipulated by the filesystem. 20GBs of
space does not mean you can put 20GB on it and be fine. Your hard drive
will fragment so bad it will come to a crawl, if you do.