Need to at least "disable" Windows Mail

C

Chris

I'm cross-posting this to additional forums (the original is in Windows Mail
and Contacts) to solicit additional feedback.

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As an enterprise customer (using Windows Vista Enterprise), we've already
selected -- as most large corportate customers would -- an email system and
client. As such, I really don't understand why, just like with Outlook
Express (until XPSP2), you can't remove this product.

As a corporate customer, clearly we don't want our Vista users to be at all
confused between mail clients and would very much like to see at least some
sort of GPO that could "disable" the Windows Mail client so avoid any
confusion by our less capable users.

Any help/suggestions would be most graciously appreciated... and, no, I
haven't combed through the incredible complexity of available GPOs for Vista
yet -- hoping that if there is some sort of capability like that I've
outlined above, that an expert at MS can direct me to it so that I don't have
to submerse myself in the myriad of detail.

Thanks in advance.
 
J

John Barnes

Since it is not listed in Windows features you can disable, maybe you can
delete the shortcuts and set your mail program as the default mail handler
in the default programs and IE default programs.
 
D

Donald L McDaniel

Since it is not listed in Windows features you can disable, maybe you can
delete the shortcuts and set your mail program as the default mail handler
in the default programs and IE default programs.

While it is not listed among Windows features you can turn on or off,
it can be disabled using a Local Policy in the Group Policy Object
Editor. There is a policy there expressly for the purpose of enabling
or disabling Windows Mail.

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Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.
 
C

Chris

This doesn't seem to eliminate the shortcut on the Start Menu and when I try
to delete "Windows Mail" from the Start Menu, it miraculously shows back up
immediately because of what other have said before -- that it's a required
part of the O/S.

I am using Windows Vista Enterprise and Outlook 2007 and Outlook is set as
my default program but the shortcut is not disabled nor is it able to be
deleted from the Start Menu.

Thanks for the idea, though. It was worth a shot.
 
D

D

Check your "advanced" security settings on the "C:\Documents and
Settings\Default User\Start Menu\Programs" folder for "deny" access. It's
the setting we found works here and you may have to traverse and remove it
all the way down.
 
K

k

Hi,

I hope you can help!

My Notebook came with Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007. This was a 90
day Trial package. This Notebook is Windows Vista Basic.

I have purchased Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007 through an offer from my
employer.

I have attempted to load this disc on numerious occasions without success. I
have spoken to the manufactors of the notebook (Gateway) who informed that I
need to remove (Uninstall) Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007. I beleive I
removed this on - Start > Control Panell > Programs > Programs & Features.
Then turn the notebook off - Log on again & then insert the Microsoft Office
Enterprise 2007 disc.

I have now tried this without succes

Do you know if I am doing this right or/& know what I should do to install
Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007?

Regards

K
 
D

Donald L McDaniel

Install your email program, and make it the default program; too easy!

Not quite, Mick...

To get rid of Windows Mail, one must make a few changes in Local
Policy.

Also, I don't know why this person is not able to delete the WinMail
shortcut from the Start Menu. It's simple to do it. Just right-click
on the WinMail shortcut, and choose "Delete" from the popup menu.
You will most probably have to do it in an elevated prompt.

As far as I know, this must all be done from an administrator account,
rather than a standard user account.


--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.
 
D

Donald L McDaniel

This doesn't seem to eliminate the shortcut on the Start Menu and when I try
to delete "Windows Mail" from the Start Menu, it miraculously shows back up
immediately because of what other have said before -- that it's a required
part of the O/S.

I am using Windows Vista Enterprise and Outlook 2007 and Outlook is set as
my default program but the shortcut is not disabled nor is it able to be
deleted from the Start Menu.

I disagree with this. Either you are not seeing all available
options, or can't find them. Whether WinMail is "part of the OS" is
irrelevant, since for all intents and purposes, it may easily be
turned off completely.
Thanks for the idea, though. It was worth a shot.

I don't understand why you are unable to delete a WinMail shortcut
from the Start Menu. I just deleted one (the one in "All Programs")
from my Start Menu with absolutely no problems at all. Nor did it
return automatically. In fact, it has not returned at all.

Now, if you are referring to the shortcut at the TOP-LEFT side of the
Start Menu, the only way to get rid of it is to do this:

1) Right-click on the Start Button
2) Choose "Properties"
3) Choose the "Start Menu" button
4) At the top, click on the "Customize..." button (the one at the
TOP).
5) At the bottom, next to "E-mail link...", click on the arrow, and
choose the e-mail client you want to appear at the top of the Start
Menu from the drop-down list. If your client is NOT in that list, it
is either not properly installed, or it is not set as the DEFAULT
e-mail client in Internet Options.

Of course, if all you want to do is remove it from the Top-left of the
Start Menu, just do 1-5, and at step 5, just uncheck "E-mail link...",
rather than doing the rest.

That is not properly "deleting the shortcut", but it is just as
effective.

If you want to delete other instances of the WinMail shortcut on the
Start Menu, just do so, and DON'T forget to grant permission to delete
it.


--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.
 
D

Donald L McDaniel

Hi,

I hope you can help!

My Notebook came with Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007. This was a 90
day Trial package. This Notebook is Windows Vista Basic.

I have purchased Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007 through an offer from my
employer.

I have attempted to load this disc on numerious occasions without success. I
have spoken to the manufactors of the notebook (Gateway) who informed that I
need to remove (Uninstall) Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007. I beleive I
removed this on - Start > Control Panell > Programs > Programs & Features.
Then turn the notebook off - Log on again & then insert the Microsoft Office
Enterprise 2007 disc.

I have now tried this without succes

Do you know if I am doing this right or/& know what I should do to install
Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007?

Regards

K

Hmmmm.....Aren't MOE2007 licenses volume licenses? It's possible that
such licenses are not installed in the normal way a consumer would do
it.

You might talk with someone at your company from the IT department
about this. Else, call Microsoft Support.



--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.
 

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