Migrating to an SSD

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Tom Del Rosso

Allen said:
however, buy several lottery tickets today in Burlington Ma. If I will
I will cut you in for a few Mil. of the projected half a billion. Good
luck, I hope I win.

Your tax advisor should have told you that, since you know how to do
arithmetic, you are exempt from paying that tax.
 
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Char Jackson

Your tax advisor should have told you that, since you know how to do
arithmetic, you are exempt from paying that tax.

Exactly. It's not by accident that they call the purchase of lottery
tickets a voluntary tax.
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Char said:
Exactly. It's not by accident that they call the purchase of lottery
tickets a voluntary tax.

It's astonishing when you consider that most governments outlaw casinos, yet
the odds at roulette are better by a few orders of magnitude.

If they outlawed booze, except for booze made by the state, would that also
be considered an acceptable role for government?
 
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Rodney Pont

I did,
however, buy several lottery tickets today in Burlington Ma. If I will
I will cut you in for a few Mil. of the projected half a billion. Good
luck, I hope I win.

When you do can I have your SSDs :)
 
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Yousuf Khan

I reconnected an HDD that sits in a bay on a system that has that
drive installed as a backup. I did it so I could get the SSD ready for
either a clean install of W7 or alignment. At this time I am still not
sure what way to go. I have a total of 10 SSDs so far so I have to
plan on how I am going to use them. Some I may just keep as spare
hardware. I also bought a Crucial Adrenaline to play around with
sometime when I get the time.

Starting an SSD museum already? These consumer ones have only just come
out in the last few years. :)

Yousuf Khan
 
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Yousuf Khan

As I said before I had to stop Win7 from running the defrag schedule but
Win8 looks much better regarding SSDs.
The defrag option is now called ' Optimize and defrag drive' and the
'Defragment now...' button is labelled 'Optimize'.
On running Optimize it takes about 2 seconds to 'trim' the drive (120 G/B).
Optimization is scheduled to run weekly by default.

What is Win8's definition of "optimization" for SSD's?

Yousuf Khan
 
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Charlie Hoffpauir

What is Win8's definition of "optimization" for SSD's?

Yousuf Khan

I've read this series of posts with interest, but have one burning
question, about "drive alignment". I bought my SSD about a year ago,
and simply cloned my OS drive to it. Then moved the pasgefile.sys to
another drive, and finally turned indexing off on the SSD. But when I
did all that, I'd not heard anything about drive alignment... so the
question is, what should I do now, and what is the penalty if I just
go on "as is"? Win 7 says my SSD performance is 7.4 now, whreas the
overall index number is 6.6.
 
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BillW50

Dave-UK said:
Nothing about SSDs in Help and Support yet for Win8, either off-line
or on-line so nothing to read there.
On Googling around a bit this is all I found that mentions Win8:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_Defragmenter_(Windows)

And I found this on my search, which recommends disabling System
Restore
on an SSD. Item 3, 'The most important piece in this guide'.
I'd not heard of that one before.
http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

And when I check my Win8 box (Intel SSD) the System Restore is turned
off by default.
So I check back on my Win7 box (OCZ-Vertex3) and that is also off with
a weird folder
icon for a 'missing C: drive'. The settings for this missing drive are
greyed out.

http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/restore7.PNG

When I try to restore from an earlier time I've no restore points to
access.
I am sure I did not manually turn System Restore off ???

Yes all true! You heard about keeping the swapfile off of the SSD too,
right? And if that is all you got, then to turn the swapfile off.
 
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Dave-UK

Yousuf Khan said:
What is Win8's definition of "optimization" for SSD's?

Yousuf Khan

Nothing about SSDs in Help and Support yet for Win8, either off-line
or on-line so nothing to read there.
On Googling around a bit this is all I found that mentions Win8:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_Defragmenter_(Windows)

And I found this on my search, which recommends disabling System Restore
on an SSD. Item 3, 'The most important piece in this guide'.
I'd not heard of that one before.

http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

And when I check my Win8 box (Intel SSD) the System Restore is turned off by default.
So I check back on my Win7 box (OCZ-Vertex3) and that is also off with a weird folder
icon for a 'missing C: drive'. The settings for this missing drive are greyed out.

http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/restore7.PNG

When I try to restore from an earlier time I've no restore points to access.
I am sure I did not manually turn System Restore off ???
 
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Yousuf Khan

I've read this series of posts with interest, but have one burning
question, about "drive alignment". I bought my SSD about a year ago,
and simply cloned my OS drive to it. Then moved the pasgefile.sys to
another drive, and finally turned indexing off on the SSD. But when I
did all that, I'd not heard anything about drive alignment... so the
question is, what should I do now, and what is the penalty if I just
go on "as is"? Win 7 says my SSD performance is 7.4 now, whreas the
overall index number is 6.6.

7.4 seems extremely good to me. I think once you're over 7.0, you're
doing pretty well. Now, if your original boot hard drive was installed
from scratch using Windows 7 or Vista, then chances are likely that the
partition was already aligned to the 1024KB boundary, which is also the
proper alignment for SSD's too.

If you follow this article, then it shows at end how to check for the
current alignment of the partition. Ignore the parts about how to create
an aligned partition and just skip to the section where it tells you how
to check the alignment.

SSD Alignment - Windows 7 Forums
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/113967-ssd-alignment.html

Yousuf Khan
 
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Dave-UK

BillW50 said:
Yes all true! You heard about keeping the swapfile off of the SSD too,
right? And if that is all you got, then to turn the swapfile off.

What do you mean , ' all true' ? Who disabled System Restore ?
 
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Gene E. Bloch

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:22:03 +0000 (GMT), "Rodney Pont"
Sure. If by some chance I stop moving long enough to look back. Most
likely some shmuck that can't even spell SSD will inherit them when he
cleans out the abandoned home I leave behind.

Well, OK, but don't keep it a secret. How *does* one spell SSD?

Thanks in advance, I need the help :)
 
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BillW50

Dave-UK said:
What do you mean , ' all true' ? Who disabled System Restore ?

Who disabled System Restore? I dunno, maybe the driver or something. Or
maybe Windows 7 does this for all SSD drives by default, I dunno. And it
has been over 2 years ago that I ran Windows 7 under an SSD. So I don't
recall what it did for System Restore.
 
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Yousuf Khan

And I found this on my search, which recommends disabling System Restore
on an SSD. Item 3, 'The most important piece in this guide'.
I'd not heard of that one before.
http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

I wouldn't do this, this is a safety feature.
And when I check my Win8 box (Intel SSD) the System Restore is turned
off by default.
So I check back on my Win7 box (OCZ-Vertex3) and that is also off with a
weird folder
icon for a 'missing C: drive'. The settings for this missing drive are
greyed out.

http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/restore7.PNG

When I try to restore from an earlier time I've no restore points to
access.
I am sure I did not manually turn System Restore off ???

Well, if yours was already disabled, then you're probably not going to
miss anything.

One of the other suggestions in the above guide was to disable disk
defragmentation, and I found that the SSD wasn't even listed on the
defrag schedule, so there's no way to disable it, since there's no way
to enable it either. The only things listed in the defrag schedule were
my proper hard disks.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Yousuf Khan

Yes all true! You heard about keeping the swapfile off of the SSD too,
right? And if that is all you got, then to turn the swapfile off.

In my case, I just moved the swapfile to an alternate drive.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Charlie Hoffpauir

7.4 seems extremely good to me. I think once you're over 7.0, you're
doing pretty well. Now, if your original boot hard drive was installed
from scratch using Windows 7 or Vista, then chances are likely that the
partition was already aligned to the 1024KB boundary, which is also the
proper alignment for SSD's too.

If you follow this article, then it shows at end how to check for the
current alignment of the partition. Ignore the parts about how to create
an aligned partition and just skip to the section where it tells you how
to check the alignment.

SSD Alignment - Windows 7 Forums
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/113967-ssd-alignment.html

Yousuf Khan

OK, thanks for that information..

Well, the "original" win 7 installation was to a hard drive. It had
been "cloned" a few times as I tried RAID configuration(s), and
eventually trimmed what I had on the drive down before swapping to the
SSD.

Now I followed the instructions from the site you gave, and my results
are: Partition 1
Type Primary
Size 107 GB (it's a nominal 120 GB OCZ)
Offset 31 GB

Reading the info on the site says the number (in MB) must be divisible
by 4, so I multiply this by 1024 and get a number in MB that "is"
divisable by 4, so I should be OK. Is this your interpretation as
well?
 
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Loren Pechtel

Old? I don't think of myself as old. I will be 65 in July. I never
smoked or drank or did drugs. I take no meds and have no known
ailments. I feel like I have always felt since I was a youth. I am not
over weight or out of shape in any way. I work on my feet 10 hours a
day sometimes 7 days a week. I love what I do. I have no children and
owe no one a dime. I pay cash for everything I don't need. I did,
however, buy several lottery tickets today in Burlington Ma. If I will
I will cut you in for a few Mil. of the projected half a billion. Good
luck, I hope I win.

Who are you, John Carter?
 

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