Is Star Office 7 on topic since it is free to students and teachers?

[Alan]

Subject says it all . . .

Thansk for any insight.

Alan

 

[Gordon Darling]

Subject says it all . . .

Thansk for any insight.

Alan

Is Star Office 7 on topic since it is free to students and teachers?

Have you got a link for that Alan? If so I'll start touting around my
local schools. The teachers at least might go for it rather than OOorg.

Regards
Gordon

 

[Roger RamJet]

Subject says it all . . .

Thansk for any insight.

Alan

I suspect not, but I am only guessing. However, it reminds me to
mention a little scam I have going to get that discount and free edu
softwares. I sign up with the community college each fall and take a
single course to get the student card. This year I am taking "Astral
Projection - A New Reality" taught by Mistress Starfire. Looks like
all I will have to do to pass the course is look really, really stoned
and nod knowingly to everything the Mistress says. Sweet.

 

[Alan]

It is on Sun's StarOffice site. I downloaded mine recently. Just
google staroffice 7. Go to the site and follow the educational links.
I just checked, and it was still there.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Subject says it all . . .

My opinion: no.

I gave a friend a copy of the $70 payware version of Mandrake Linux,
last year. Does that make it freeware?

 

[Gordon Darling]

It is on Sun's StarOffice site. I downloaded mine recently. Just
google staroffice 7. Go to the site and follow the educational links.
I just checked, and it was still there.

Thanks Alan.

Regards
Gordon

 

[John Corliss]

Subject says it all . . .
Thanks for any insight.

'Fraid not, Alan. Freeware has to be free for everyone. This group
decided that when some antivirus program's license (I forget which one
it was) said that it couldn't be used by people in certain countries,
that it wasn't freeware. I even removed mention of the program from my
version of the F.A.Q.

--
Regards from John Corliss
alt.comp.freeware F.A.Q.:
http://www.ccountry.net/~jcorliss/F.A.Q./FrameSet1.html
Note that I can't see any of Andy Mabbett's troll posts
because I have him killfiled.

 

[Jordan]

'Fraid not, Alan. Freeware has to be free for everyone.

Lots of freeware mentioned here is free for personal use only, not free for
everyone. Companies, organizations and educational institutions often have
to pay. ZoneAlarm and AVG antivirus immediately come to mind.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Lots of freeware mentioned here is free for personal use only, not free for
everyone. Companies, organizations and educational institutions often have
to pay. ZoneAlarm and AVG antivirus immediately come to mind.

And as anyone who's been here more than eight minutes (trolling time
doesn't count) knows, the group's focus is on the individual user.

If Joe Blow is looking for something for his company, he'll get help, as
well. But if there's nothing found that it can use free and legally,
well, those are breaks, just like if an individual's needs can't be
satisfied.

Note that John didn't say "for every corporate entity".

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

And as anyone who's been here more than eight minutes (trolling
time doesn't count) knows, the group's focus is on the individual
user.

If Joe Blow is looking for something for his company, he'll get
help, as well. But if there's nothing found that it can use free
and legally, well, those are breaks, just like if an individual's
needs can't be satisfied.

Yet, this is an interesting issue. Irfanview, for example, specifically
places limits on its free use. So does RagTime Solo. So, what are the
rules regarding acceptable limitations on freeware use. If SO7 is
available free to certain individuals for certain specified uses, how
is that different from Irfanview which is only available free for
certain specified uses, as is RagTime Solo? This is not trolling, it
is an attempt to get a distinction that eludes me clarified.

 

[Jordan]

And as anyone who's been here more than eight minutes (trolling time
doesn't count) knows, the group's focus is on the individual user.

If Joe Blow is looking for something for his company, he'll get help,
as well. But if there's nothing found that it can use free and
legally, well, those are breaks, just like if an individual's needs
can't be satisfied.

Note that John didn't say "for every corporate entity".

Students, teachers, volunteers and employees are just some of the
individuals excluded from using certain software as freeware. Raising this
issue is not trolling.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Yet, this is an interesting issue. Irfanview, for example, specifically
places limits on its free use. So does RagTime Solo. So, what are the
rules regarding acceptable limitations on freeware use. If SO7 is
available free to certain individuals for certain specified uses, how
is that different from Irfanview which is only available free for
certain specified uses, as is RagTime Solo? This is not trolling, it
is an attempt to get a distinction that eludes me clarified.

I don't know each case in point. If they revolve around the
personal/commercial and seat-count issues, my opion as expressed, above,
stands.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Students, teachers, volunteers and employees are just some of the
individuals excluded from using certain software as freeware. Raising this
issue is not trolling.

My use of "trolling" was a generic disqualification.

Uh...students as excluded from certain freeware? That seems odd. Cite?

 

[Spooka]

|Subject says it all . . .
|
|Thansk for any insight.

Sure it is. Just because *most* people won't meet the qualifications does
not change the fact that it is freeware. If you're not a student or
teacher it's not freeware.

Students and teachers should be penalized in ACF because they meet the
requirements and others don't? What's next, saying that people can't
suggest other freeware programs that are in Chinese because most people
in AFC don't read Chinese?

 

[Jordan]

My use of "trolling" was a generic disqualification.

Uh...students as excluded from certain freeware? That seems odd.
Cite?

For example, an educational institution cannot freely distribute copies of
ZoneAlarm to its students, just as a company cannot freely distribute this
software to its employees.

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/media/downloads/EULAZAStandard.txt

 

[Darrien]

My opinion: no.

I gave a friend a copy of the $70 payware version of Mandrake Linux,
last year. Does that make it freeware?

No.

The word you're looking for is "piracy".

 

[Blinky the Shark]

For example, an educational institution cannot freely distribute copies of
ZoneAlarm to its students, just as a company cannot freely distribute this
software to its employees.

You're talking about distribution rights, not end-user rights.

Apples. Oranges.

 

[Jordan]

You're talking about distribution rights, not end-user rights.

I talked about distribution rights from the perspective of the educational
institution or the company. End-user rights have similar restrictions:
No student (end-user) in a college computer lab can legally download ZAF on
to a college computer. No employee (end-user) of a for-profit company can
legally download ZAF on to a company computer.

 

[Livewire]

Thanks Alan.

Regards
Gordon

OpenOffice was Star Office until a version or two ago. When Star started
charging for ordinary users, OO vwas developed separately for free.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I talked about distribution rights from the perspective of the educational
institution or the company. End-user rights have similar restrictions:
No student (end-user) in a college computer lab can legally download ZAF on
to a college computer. No employee (end-user) of a for-profit company can
legally download ZAF on to a company computer.

So they can download them on their personal computers, like I do.

You're approaching the style of those who've argued that since everyone
can't get a free computer, and computers are necessary to run software,
there can't be any such thing as freeware. And don't forget the cost of
electricity (batteries *or* AC) and a connection.

Do you *really* want to join that club?

Actually, I don't care -- join it if you wish.

[plonk]