How to trace a deleted file on a server by a user

E

Erwin Ras

Well we got some smart guys who got access to some
application files on a terminal server and delete those
files. Now we would like to know if there is a way that we
can trace who did it.

Is there any program or utilities that we can use to trace
the deletion.

The files deleted were most of the office application and
Project.

regards

Erwin
 
V

Vera Noest [MVP]

Not after the fact has already happened.
The only way to trace such events is to enable security auditing
on the server, and then enable it on the specific files. But since
you don't know before it happens *which* files you want to audit,
you would have to audit them all. The impact this has on the
performance of the server makes this unrealistic, as far as I
know.
There is certainly a bunch of 3th party software out there which
can help.

Personally, I would spend less time in finding the user who did
it, and more time in securing my file system. With proper NTFS
permissions, this wouldn't have happened in the first place
(unless an Administrators messed up).
 
E

Erwin Ras

Thank you for the information, I understand your point,
but it's the boss decicion and I think you understand
that. There might one administrator that could cause the
blunder, but we have to find out.
Besides do you know one program that might help!
-----Original Message-----
Not after the fact has already happened.
The only way to trace such events is to enable security auditing
on the server, and then enable it on the specific files. But since
you don't know before it happens *which* files you want to audit,
you would have to audit them all. The impact this has on the
performance of the server makes this unrealistic, as far as I
know.
There is certainly a bunch of 3th party software out there which
can help.

Personally, I would spend less time in finding the user who did
it, and more time in securing my file system. With proper NTFS
permissions, this wouldn't have happened in the first place
(unless an Administrators messed up).

--
Vera Noest
MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

"Erwin Ras" <[email protected]> wrote
Well we got some smart guys who got access to some
application files on a terminal server and delete those
files. Now we would like to know if there is a way that we
can trace who did it.

Is there any program or utilities that we can use to trace
the deletion.

The files deleted were most of the office application and
Project.

regards

Erwin
.
[/QUOTE]
 
V

Vera Noest [MVP]

Did you have auditing of security events (especially logon and
logoff events) turned on when this happened? That would at least
give you a list of everyone who was logged on during the time this
happened.
If you didn't have security auditing enabled, I don't think there
is much more that you can do to find out who messed up.

Did you make a full backup of your system immediately after the
file loss was discovered? If so, you could have a look at the time
stamps of every user profile, which could tell you when users were
last logged in. That could at least rule out some suspects.

I have no personal experience with any 3th party software, but if
you google for "auditing software" I'm sure you find lots of them.
But I doubt very much if anything can be found out about past
incidents. And again, be prepared for a performance hit if you
want to audit every single file operation.

--
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
--- please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ---

Thank you for the information, I understand your point,
but it's the boss decicion and I think you understand
that. There might one administrator that could cause the
blunder, but we have to find out.
Besides do you know one program that might help!
[/QUOTE]
 
K

Kevin Bowersock

You may give undelete from executive software a try .. thye have an "
emergency undelete" feature that I have used in the past.
It MAY also tell you who deleted the file in the first place.

Make sure that your boss knows that the answer might be "no" you cannot
determine it after the fact.
OH and getting upset doesn't help
(e-mail address removed)

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| Did you have auditing of security events (especially logon and
| logoff events) turned on when this happened? That would at least
| give you a list of everyone who was logged on during the time this
| happened.
| If you didn't have security auditing enabled, I don't think there
| is much more that you can do to find out who messed up.
|
| Did you make a full backup of your system immediately after the
| file loss was discovered? If so, you could have a look at the time
| stamps of every user profile, which could tell you when users were
| last logged in. That could at least rule out some suspects.
|
| I have no personal experience with any 3th party software, but if
| you google for "auditing software" I'm sure you find lots of them.
| But I doubt very much if anything can be found out about past
| incidents. And again, be prepared for a performance hit if you
| want to audit every single file operation.
|
| --
| Vera Noest
| MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
| http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
| --- please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ---
|
| 2004 in microsoft.public.win2000.termserv.apps:
|
| > Thank you for the information, I understand your point,
| > but it's the boss decicion and I think you understand
| > that. There might one administrator that could cause the
| > blunder, but we have to find out.
| > Besides do you know one program that might help!
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>Not after the fact has already happened.
| >>The only way to trace such events is to enable security
| > auditing
| >>on the server, and then enable it on the specific files.
| > But since
| >>you don't know before it happens *which* files you want
| > to audit,
| >>you would have to audit them all. The impact this has on
| > the
| >>performance of the server makes this unrealistic, as far
| > as I
| >>know.
| >>There is certainly a bunch of 3th party software out
| > there which
| >>can help.
| >>
| >>Personally, I would spend less time in finding the user
| > who did
| >>it, and more time in securing my file system. With proper
| > NTFS
| >>permissions, this wouldn't have happened in the first
| > place
| >>(unless an Administrators messed up).
| >>
| >> --
| >>Vera Noest
| >>MCSE,CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
| >>http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
| >>*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
| >>
| > on 24 sep
| >>2004:
| >>
| >>> Well we got some smart guys who got access to some
| >>> application files on a terminal server and delete those
| >>> files. Now we would like to know if there is a way that
| > we
| >>> can trace who did it.
| >>>
| >>> Is there any program or utilities that we can use to
| > trace
| >>> the deletion.
| >>>
| >>> The files deleted were most of the office application
| > and
| >>> Project.
| >>>
| >>> regards
| >>>
| >>> Erwin
|
 

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