How to forbid others opening my backup *.bkf file? How to set a password for opening my backup *.bkf

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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Hello
How to forbid others opening my backup *.bkf file? How to set a password for
opening my backup *.bkf file?
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

The file system is NWFS.
Andrej Budja said:
You cannot set a password for a file in Windows XP. You can protect
your files by using the NTFS file system. This file system allows you
to define what users can do with your files. In your case you could
deny access to all users for this file. This is done by right clicking
the file, selecting properties and then going to the Security tab.

Andrej
 
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Rob Schneider

Can't you with Novell's utilties make this file/folder accessible only
to your id? Have you setup private "home" folders for all users? It
would be natural to put it there.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Thanks for your reply.
The file is in an assigned to me folder. But a Netware network administrator
can open the *.bkf file. How to forbid him opening? How to with Novell's
utilities make this file accessible only to my id?
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

The Netware network administrator can open the *.bkf file because he knows
my password.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Can a Netware network administrator know my password which was set from my
workstation? Can he open files or folders in my private "home" folder?
 
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Rob Schneider

I'll put your three points into one to improve the thread of this
discussion:


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Thanks for your reply.
The file is in an assigned to me folder. But a Netware network administrator
can open the *.bkf file. How to forbid him opening? How to with Novell's
utilities make this file accessible only to my id?

The Netware network administrator can open the *.bkf file because he knows
my password.

Can a Netware network administrator know my password which was set from my
workstation? Can he open files or folders in my private "home" folder?
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You've given new information now to say that "others" is the network
admininstrator ... that's different.

I am puzzled why your network admin knows our password. That doesn't
sound secure in the base case. Normall network admins should not know
that. And by policy, they should be prevented from accesing people's
folders. This would be a *policy* enforceable by management. I've seen
companies where network admins get fired if they do this.

It is possible that yokur network admin cannot get into your
workstation, but it all depends on how your organisation setup your
workstation and access to network. It certainly is possible they know
the admin password or otherwise can access.

There is probably nothing preventing network admins, or someone with
admin id/password from seeing anything on your computer. With physical
access to your computer, one can get in.

To hide the backup file, you should consider encrypting it with some
encryption too with a password known only to you. You can buy such a
program, or get free by download downlaod somehere.

That being said the network admin can probaably access the source data,
so what's the point of protecting the backup? For you to consider.

Talk to your network admin and find out from him/her the company
policies, if they can access, and the degree of privacy you actually
have and are allowed.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Thanks for your reply!
I changed my password so the Netware administrator doesn't know my password
anymore.
Others have only user access to my Workstation. My documents and setting are
set private.
Where to download free encryption program?
 
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Rob Schneider

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

*snip*
Where to download free encryption program?
*snip*

Sorry, I have no recommendations on that, but I've snipped out the
extraneous stuff on this thread so that others can more easily see this
question and possibly give guidance.

If you have XP Pro with NTFS encryption of files and file systems is
possible.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Yes. I have XP Pro.
"Encrypted files can become decrypted if you copy or move the file to a
volume that is not an NTFS volume" is written in the Help and Support.
The NetWare volume has NWFS file system.
Will encrypted in NTFS files be encrypted in NWFS?
 
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Randall Arnold

In my own experience, network admins always have access to everyone's
passwords. I've never worked at a company (in over 15 years) where this was
not the case. In fact, I've seen many cases where it was a dire necessity.

Randall Arnold
 
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Rob Schneider

Guess that won't work for you, then. I didn't now that NTFS encryptoin
worked like that. Sounds like an interesting research task to figure out
why this would be...I sort of thought a file was a file. Points even
further to the solution for you being some sort of standalone utilty
that encrypts the file for separate storage.

I've done no encryption on XP, and when I've experimented with such
things it was on Linux using standard Linux utilities. Sorry I can't be
more help.
 
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Stan Young

Guess that won't work for you, then. I didn't now that NTFS
encryptoin worked like that. Sounds like an interesting research task
to figure out why this would be...I sort of thought a file was a file.
Points even further to the solution for you being some sort of
standalone utilty that encrypts the file for separate storage.

I've done no encryption on XP, and when I've experimented with such
things it was on Linux using standard Linux utilities. Sorry I can't
be more help.

How about WINZIP the file with passwood protection.
 
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Alexander Grigoriev

In Windows NT/2000/XP domain or a standalone computer, an admin can read
un-encrypted files of other users. An admin can reset a password of another
user. An admin CANNOT read or see a password of another user.
 
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Alexander Grigoriev

If you have local admin privileges on your computer:
Save a BKF file, then convert it to an encrypted file (Properties->Encrypt),
or save it in a folder with encryption enabled.

Then run Backup and backup that BKF file to your NW server. The first BKF
file will be saved without decryption, in its encrypted form.

Make sure to export your master encryption key and recovery key from your
computer.

If you don't have local admin or backup operator privileges, you won't be
able to save encrypted file in its encrypted form.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Have an admin access to the "Private" folder of another user? The "Private"
folder has a check mark "Make this folder private" on the Sharing tab in its
Properties window.
 
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Spinner

An admin can access all files and folders on a machine.
As far as an admin is concerned, "private" has no meaning.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

"Access is denied" is written when I (as the Administrator) try to open the
"Private" folder of another user. How can I have access?
 

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