Diffrent Vista Accounts and one MailStore

[Stefan Helmig]

Hello NG,

I would like to use one MailStore of
Windows Mail with two Windows Vista Accounts
(An Administrator and a Standard User)
There was no problem to move both stores
to one location. But if I logged in as
Amdinistrator an saved the password(s)
for a newsserver or for a mail-account
like gmx, I have to type the name/password
of the mail-accountname again if I switched
the Vista-Account - Why?

Where are these Passwords stored?
And how can I change this behavior to
use two different Vista-Accounts (Identities?)
with the same mailstore without typing the
name/password of a mail account again?

Can I export and import some registry
values to use it like one vista user?

btw: This was a good workaround in XP
and Outlook Express to store and share
these names and passwords of mail-accounts
with different Windows-XP-Accounts

S

 

[Steve Cochran]

See www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

The passwords are encrypted and there is no explanation of how they are
generated. The encrypted password is stored in the .oeaccount file, but the
encryption "seed" is different for each user, so the encryption is different
depending on which user is logged on.

I have the same problem when sharing the message store between OSs
(multiboot) as then again one is prompted for the password for each account.

My workaround for this is to have a batch file for each user (or OS) that
copies the oeaccount files from a backed location to the message store and I
keep a backup for each user. So when user A logs on, then user A runs that
batch file for the user that copies his oeaccount files to the store, and
then when user B logs on, then user B runs his batch file that copies over
his oeaccount files into the store.

I don't have any other workaround at the moment, as Microsoft has refused to
provide any information on this issue.

steve

 

[Stefan Helmig]

Hello Steve,

[...]
My workaround for this is to have a batch file for each user (or OS) that
copies the oeaccount files from a backed location to the message store and
I

[...]

How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to which
user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount
files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I have
7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolders
subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts and
1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account.
And which file have to be copied in which way?
I hope you can explain it more detailed.

I don't have any other workaround at the moment, as Microsoft has refused
to provide any information on this issue.

:-(


S

 

[Steve Cochran]

Here is information on the accounts:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.asp

Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents.

Then you just make a copy of the account files for one user and store that
in a backup directory. Then you make a backup for the other user. Then
create a batch file that copies the account files from the backup to the
correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file for
that user and you won't be prompted for passwords then.

steve

Hello Steve,

[...]
My workaround for this is to have a batch file for each user (or OS) that
copies the oeaccount files from a backed location to the message store
and
I

[...]

How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to which
user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount
files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I have
7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolders
subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts and
1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account.
And which file have to be copied in which way?
I hope you can explain it more detailed.

I don't have any other workaround at the moment, as Microsoft has refused
to provide any information on this issue.

:-(


S

 

[Stefan Helmig]

Hello Steve,

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.asp

Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents.

Yes, now it's working. Thank you.

I was wondering because there were no differences
between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognized
there is a diffrence between the
<POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2>
and
<SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2>
fields in diffrent accounts.

I think they use the UID or username for
encrypting/decrypting these passwords...

S

 

[Stefan Helmig]

Hello Steve,

[...]

correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file for

[...]

I recognized now that you have to care about swichting
between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to the
"common" mail-store.

I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application,
but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user account
and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problems
if you start the Windows Mail from an another account
and using this workaround on the same "common"
mail-store

It would be good to locate the account files
seperated from the mailstore.... or alternativ
start the applictaion with only one account using

runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"
or
runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"

But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vista
and I don't know why :-(

S

 

[Steve Cochran]

I don't think you can do much better at this point. You will just have to
close WinMail before you switch users.

steve

Hello Steve,

[...]

correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file
for

[...]

I recognized now that you have to care about swichting
between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to the
"common" mail-store.

I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application,
but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user account
and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problems
if you start the Windows Mail from an another account
and using this workaround on the same "common"
mail-store

It would be good to locate the account files
seperated from the mailstore.... or alternativ
start the applictaion with only one account using

runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"
or
runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"

But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vista
and I don't know why :-(

S

 

[varun bansal]

hey guys
i m working on a application for window live mail password recovery which is stored in windows file as *.oeaccount...but still i am not getting one thing that what the thing its is using as entropy..means i am not getting exactly what the field values for cryptunprotected

will you please help

you are most welcome to shade a light on this article

thanks and regards

varun abnsal



Stefan Helmig wrote:

Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
27-Jan-07

Hello Steve


Yes, now it's working. Thank you

I was wondering because there were no difference
between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognize
there is a diffrence between th
<POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2
an
<SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2
fields in diffrent accounts

I think they use the UID or username fo
encrypting/decrypting these passwords..

S

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Hello Steve,How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to whichuser?
Hello Steve


How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to whic
user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccoun
files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I hav
7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolder
subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts an
1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account
And which file have to be copied in which way
I hope you can explain it more detailed


S

Re: Diffrent Vista Accounts and one MailStore
Here is information on the accounts

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d.../outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.as

Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents

Then you just make a copy of the account files for one user and store that
in a backup directory. Then you make a backup for the other user. Then
create a batch file that copies the account files from the backup to the
correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file for
that user and you won't be prompted for passwords then

stev


Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
Hello Steve


Yes, now it's working. Thank you

I was wondering because there were no difference
between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognize
there is a diffrence between th
<POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2
an
<SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2
fields in diffrent accounts

I think they use the UID or username fo
encrypting/decrypting these passwords..

S

Hello Steve,I recognized now that you have to care about swichtingbetween
Hello Steve


I recognized now that you have to care about swichtin
between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to th
"common" mail-store

I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application
but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user accoun
and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problem
if you start the Windows Mail from an another accoun
and using this workaround on the same "common
mail-stor

It would be good to locate the account file
seperated from the mailstore.... or alternati
start the applictaion with only one account usin

runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail
o
runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail

But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vist
and I don't know why :-

S

I don't think you can do much better at this point.
I do not think you can do much better at this point. You will just have t
close WinMail before you switch users

steve


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[Sam Hobbs]

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hey guys
i m working on a application for window live mail password recovery which
is stored in windows file as *.oeaccount...but still i am not getting one
thing that what the thing its is using as entropy..means i am not getting
exactly what the field values for cryptunprotected

will you please help

you are most welcome to shade a light on this article

thanks and regards

varun abnsal



Stefan Helmig wrote:

Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
27-Jan-07

Hello Steve,



Yes, now it's working. Thank you.

I was wondering because there were no differences
between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognized
there is a diffrence between the
<POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2>
and
<SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2>
fields in diffrent accounts.

I think they use the UID or username for
encrypting/decrypting these passwords...

S

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Hello Steve,How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to whichuser?
Hello Steve,



How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to which
user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount
files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I have
7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolders
subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts and
1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account.
And which file have to be copied in which way?
I hope you can explain it more detailed.



S

Re: Diffrent Vista Accounts and one MailStore
Here is information on the accounts:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.asp

Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents.

Then you just make a copy of the account files for one user and store that
in a backup directory. Then you make a backup for the other user. Then
create a batch file that copies the account files from the backup to the
correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file
for
that user and you won't be prompted for passwords then.

steve


Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
Hello Steve,



Yes, now it's working. Thank you.

I was wondering because there were no differences
between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognized
there is a diffrence between the
<POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2>
and
<SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2>
fields in diffrent accounts.

I think they use the UID or username for
encrypting/decrypting these passwords...

S

Hello Steve,I recognized now that you have to care about swichtingbetween
Hello Steve,




I recognized now that you have to care about swichting
between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to the
"common" mail-store.

I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application,
but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user account
and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problems
if you start the Windows Mail from an another account
and using this workaround on the same "common"
mail-store

It would be good to locate the account files
seperated from the mailstore.... or alternativ
start the applictaion with only one account using

runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"
or
runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"

But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vista
and I don't know why :-(

S

I don't think you can do much better at this point.
I do not think you can do much better at this point. You will just have
to
close WinMail before you switch users.

steve


Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
Dr. Dotnetsky's Cool .NET Tips & Tricks # 12
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorial...8968-ab20ab99320d/dr-dotnetskys-cool-net.aspx