Decompiler.NET reverse engineers your CLS compliant code

Discussion in 'Microsoft C# .NET' started by Vortex Soft, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. Vortex Soft

    Vortex Soft Guest

    http://www.junglecreatures.com/

    Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.




    Notes:

    VB, C# are CLS compliant
    You can also use managed code with C++


    Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.


    Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.


    I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    nothing else but studying or playing.
     
    Vortex Soft, Sep 13, 2004
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  2. Vortex Soft

    Nak Guest

    **** off!

    "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...
    > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
     
    Nak, Sep 13, 2004
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  3. Vortex Soft

    Brian Henry Guest

    if VB.NET was good for nothing but studying and playing hows come some major
    corporations run applications they created in VB.NET? Because of the way IL
    is compiled symbols are going to be included... this happens with any IL
    language such as Java. and what is stoping you from reverse engineering C++
    code? if you can understand assembly and have some time on your hands you
    can decompile it also in a sense


    "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...
    > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
     
    Brian Henry, Sep 13, 2004
    #3
  4. Vortex Soft

    James Guest

    That link appears to be dead.


    "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...
    > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
     
    James, Sep 13, 2004
    #4
  5. You really dont know what you are talking about do you !



    --

    OHM ( Terry Burns )
    . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    If U Need My Email ,Ask Me

    Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

    "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...
    > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
     
    One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \), Sep 13, 2004
    #5
  6. Vortex Soft

    CJ Taylor Guest

    You know... RSA encryption can be cracked too... but most times, it's just
    not worth the hassle...


    "One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:e%...
    > You really dont know what you are talking about do you !
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > OHM ( Terry Burns )
    > . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    > If U Need My Email ,Ask Me
    >
    > Time flies when you don't know what you're doing
    >
    > "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    > news:%23hF4z%...
    > > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    > >
    > > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Notes:
    > >
    > > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > > You can also use managed code with C++
    > >
    > >
    > > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    > >
    > >
    > > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export

    them.
    > >
    > >
    > > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > > nothing else but studying or playing.
    > >

    >
    >
     
    CJ Taylor, Sep 13, 2004
    #6
  7. "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...

    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.


    Troll, troll, troll your boat....
     
    Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB], Sep 13, 2004
    #7
  8. Virtually anything can be cracked, security management is all about managing
    to an 'acceptable' risk for the environment in which the protected entity
    exists.

    --

    OHM ( Terry Burns )
    . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    If U Need My Email ,Ask Me

    Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

    "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    news:...
    > You know... RSA encryption can be cracked too... but most times, it's just
    > not worth the hassle...
    >
    >
    > "One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in

    message
    > news:e%...
    > > You really dont know what you are talking about do you !
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > OHM ( Terry Burns )
    > > . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    > > If U Need My Email ,Ask Me
    > >
    > > Time flies when you don't know what you're doing
    > >
    > > "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    > > news:%23hF4z%...
    > > > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    > > >
    > > > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Notes:
    > > >
    > > > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > > > You can also use managed code with C++
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > > > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new

    deobfuscator.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > > > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > > > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export

    > them.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > > > nothing else but studying or playing.
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \), Sep 13, 2004
    #8
  9. Vortex Soft

    James Guest

    "Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    > news:%23hF4z%...
    >
    > > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > > nothing else but studying or playing.

    >
    > Troll, troll, troll your boat....
    >
    >


    gently down the data stream...
     
    James, Sep 13, 2004
    #9
  10. Vortex Soft

    CJ Taylor Guest

    My point exactly.

    =0

    "One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Virtually anything can be cracked, security management is all about

    managing
    > to an 'acceptable' risk for the environment in which the protected entity
    > exists.
    >
    > --
    >
    > OHM ( Terry Burns )
    > . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    > If U Need My Email ,Ask Me
    >
    > Time flies when you don't know what you're doing
    >
    > "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > You know... RSA encryption can be cracked too... but most times, it's

    just
    > > not worth the hassle...
    > >
    > >
    > > "One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in

    > message
    > > news:e%...
    > > > You really dont know what you are talking about do you !
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > OHM ( Terry Burns )
    > > > . . . One-Handed-Man . . .
    > > > If U Need My Email ,Ask Me
    > > >
    > > > Time flies when you don't know what you're doing
    > > >
    > > > "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:%23hF4z%...
    > > > > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    > > > >
    > > > > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Notes:
    > > > >
    > > > > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > > > > You can also use managed code with C++
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long

    time.
    > > > > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new

    > deobfuscator.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll

    file.
    > > > > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source

    Code.
    > > > > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export

    > > them.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good

    for
    > > > > nothing else but studying or playing.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    CJ Taylor, Sep 13, 2004
    #10
  11. Vortex Soft

    Nak Guest

    Whoah!

    "RSA encryption can be cracked too"

    How much time do you have on your hands??

    Nick.
     
    Nak, Sep 13, 2004
    #11
  12. Vortex Soft

    Guest Guest

    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but
    it's good for
    >nothing else but studying or playing.
    >


    Interesting comment in light of the CLR for .Net

    >-----Original Message-----
    >http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    >Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft

    Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you

    for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a

    new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the

    exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your

    Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless

    you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but

    it's good for
    >nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
    >.
    >
     
    Guest, Sep 13, 2004
    #12
  13. Vortex Soft

    CJ Taylor Guest

    There was more to that sentence... that being, is it *really* worth the
    effort?

    "Nak" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Whoah!
    >
    > "RSA encryption can be cracked too"
    >
    > How much time do you have on your hands??
    >
    > Nick.
    >
    >
     
    CJ Taylor, Sep 13, 2004
    #13
  14. Probably - if you had an algorithm to do it fast, I'm sure you could get a
    job in some fairly specialist places :)

    Steve

    "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    news:...
    > There was more to that sentence... that being, is it *really* worth the
    > effort?
    >
    > "Nak" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Whoah!
    > >
    > > "RSA encryption can be cracked too"
    > >
    > > How much time do you have on your hands??
    > >
    > > Nick.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Steve McLellan, Sep 13, 2004
    #14
  15. Vortex Soft

    CJ Taylor Guest

    Mmm yes...

    would you mind posting that algorithm here? =)

    "Steve McLellan" <sjm.NOSPAM AT fixerlabs DOT com> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > Probably - if you had an algorithm to do it fast, I'm sure you could get a
    > job in some fairly specialist places :)
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > There was more to that sentence... that being, is it *really* worth the
    > > effort?
    > >
    > > "Nak" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Whoah!
    > > >
    > > > "RSA encryption can be cracked too"
    > > >
    > > > How much time do you have on your hands??
    > > >
    > > > Nick.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    CJ Taylor, Sep 13, 2004
    #15
  16. Vortex Soft

    ErikS Guest

    You need to get out more often:
    http://denisbauer.com/NETTools/FileDisassembler.aspx


    "Vortex Soft" <> wrote in message
    news:%23hF4z%...
    > http://www.junglecreatures.com/
    >
    > Try it and tell me what's happenning in the Microsoft Corporation.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Notes:
    >
    > VB, C# are CLS compliant
    > You can also use managed code with C++
    >
    >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    >
    >
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.
    > A honest compiler does not expose any Symbols, unless you Export them.
    >
    >
    > I like VB, it is an easy yet powerfull language, but it's good for
    > nothing else but studying or playing.
    >
     
    ErikS, Sep 13, 2004
    #16
  17. Um..... no :) I'll probably get 'disappeared' by MI5 on the way home now
    :)


    "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Mmm yes...
    >
    > would you mind posting that algorithm here? =)
    >
    > "Steve McLellan" <sjm.NOSPAM AT fixerlabs DOT com> wrote in message
    > news:%...
    > > Probably - if you had an algorithm to do it fast, I'm sure you could get

    a
    > > job in some fairly specialist places :)
    > >
    > > Steve
    > >
    > > "CJ Taylor" <[cege] at [tavayn] dit commmmm> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > There was more to that sentence... that being, is it *really* worth

    the
    > > > effort?
    > > >
    > > > "Nak" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > > > Whoah!
    > > > >
    > > > > "RSA encryption can be cracked too"
    > > > >
    > > > > How much time do you have on your hands??
    > > > >
    > > > > Nick.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Steve McLellan, Sep 13, 2004
    #17
  18. Remember - all depends on the key length chosen. If you're going to choose a
    16-bit key - hell I can crack that too :) (Yes- within my lifetime ;-)) !!
    Read here: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-204556.html?legacy=cnet

    Ofcourse, the standard now is to use 512 bit keys and sooner or later we'll
    be moving to a 1024 bit standard as soon as as someone (or rather group)
    cracks a 512-bit RSA key encoded message. Thats a totally different ball
    game altogether.

    Imran.

    "Nak" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Whoah!
    >
    > "RSA encryption can be cracked too"
    >
    > How much time do you have on your hands??
    >
    > Nick.
    >
    >
     
    Imran Koradia, Sep 13, 2004
    #18
  19. >
    > Using what they call obfuscator, will not help you for a long time.
    > For each new obfuscator there will allways exist a new deobfuscator.
    > Your source's Symbols are written unchanged in the exe or dll file.
    > Looking to your Symbols, it's easy to understand your Source Code.


    Thanks for the compliments regarding our Decompiler.NET product. The
    product includes a built-in obfuscation option that generates
    obfuscated source code that you can recompile that still runs like the
    original code. You may want to try this feature to see how readable
    the obfuscated code is.

    Our obfuscator encrypts string literals and replaces them with
    references. It also includes unique advanced features not provided by
    other available obfuscators like generating public stub methods and
    properties to avoid breaking public interfaces, but factoring their
    bodies and calls within the same assembly into obfuscated
    implementation methods. Our refactoring feature also includes an
    option for encapsulates fields with generated properties and tightens
    their scoping to private.

    You can read an article that compares our Decompiler to other
    available .NET decompilers in the August 2004 issue of .NET Developers
    Journal. You can view the article here:
    http://www.junglecreatures.com/press/DecompilerRoundUp_DNDJ_August_2004.pdf


    Jonathan Pierce
    President
    Jungle Creatures, Inc.
    http://www.junglecreatures.com/
     
    Jonathan Pierce, Sep 13, 2004
    #19
  20. "James" <> wrote in message news:<ObcHj#>...
    > That link appears to be dead.
    >
    >


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    Jonathan Pierce
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    Jungle Creatures, Inc.

    http://www.junglecreatures.com/
     
    Jonathan Pierce, Sep 13, 2004
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