I protest that remark, no one is being sexist here, I resent that statement
by you and bek. Come on everyone grow up. If you want to upgrade to a new OS
you must do your homework, many of us have posted many time that you must
make sure that drivers exist for your hardware you wish to install Vista on.
And more than once recommendations have been made as to the grade of
hardware you need to install Vista. With all due respect I do not have a lot
of sympathy for those who "blindly" upgrade to a new OS. This is no
different than the previous transitions from one OS to another.
G


<.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The treat each other with respect but target women with computer problems.
> And when they win the woman's trust ... They don't call themselves a
> community for nothing. And it's good for male bonding (or is it pimple
> bonding) a large group of greasy haired pimples (after all they only get
> to do it every second year) with a woman. They normally let her live and
> just blackmail her with a video. But sometimes if she admits to using
> Windows they go beserk, screaming "take this bill gate's concubine" as
> they insert snapped in half Vista DVDs.
> "NoStop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bek wrote:
>>
>>> And I suppose telling you all that I'm a girl is going to make the
>>> stereotyping and names worse. Don't freak out though! I live near
>>> Redmond!
>>> I'll just drive down to Microsoft and strangle someone.
>>>
>>> At any rate, whether I am a seasoned computer geek or a beginner, it
>>> should not have had to have been this hard. I mean, shouldn't the
>>> upgrade
>>> advisor have warned me that my video card was a total crap bag? Yes!
>>> Alas,
>>> it did not.
>>>
>> You shouldn't be judging your video card that roughly. Who says your
>> video
>> card is crap? Just because a crappy toy operating system that is so
>> poorly
>> written that it demands the "latest and greatest and priciest" hardware
>> to
>> overcome its bloatware?
>>
>> As you've seen, you've not gotten much sympathy in this newsgroup
>> composed
>> of Fista Fanboys, who can see no wrong with Microslop or its piece of
>> junk
>> new 'operating system'. In true MickeyMouse fashion, it's always - blame
>> the end-user for the problems he/she encounters. You're either not smart
>> enough for this gang or else too lazy to do your homework. When "soccer
>> moms" are mentioned, their retort is that a "soccer mom" wouldn't be
>> interested in upgrading in the first place. They show no end to their
>> elitist and snobby attitudes.
>>
>> May I suggest that this is a good time to get off this ridiculous
>> bandwagon,
>> driven by Microsoft's insatiable appetite for more or your money. Take a
>> look at an intelligent operating system like Ubuntu. You can get this
>> operating system for free. It can be a LiveCD distribution that will
>> allow
>> you to boot your computer from a CD and see how well your hardware will
>> work with it before committing to an install on your hard drive. If
>> you're
>> like the vast majority of computer users it'll give you all you need and
>> will work with your "old and crappy video card". Another big plus is that
>> if you start using Ubuntu, you'll turn to a community of users who treat
>> each other with respect and not blame the end-user for the problems they
>> may encounter.
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>>
>>> "Donald Shelton" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really must protest you calling another person names on this public
>>>> forum.
>>>> Most people using personal computers learn as they use their machines.
>>>> I'd say that Bek went thru a learning experience, but "Stupid" I am
>>>> sure
>>>> he's not.
>>>>
>>>> Let's try to be courteous to each other.
>>
>> --
>> The "Wow" starts now.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>
>> "No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
>> choice."
>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>
>

<.> wrote:

> The treat each other with respect but target women with computer problems.
> And when they win the woman's trust ... They don't call themselves a
> community for nothing. And it's good for male bonding (or is it pimple
> bonding) a large group of greasy haired pimples (after all they only get
> to do it every second year) with a woman. They normally let her live and
> just blackmail her with a video. But sometimes if she admits to using
> Windows they go beserk, screaming "take this bill gate's concubine" as
> they insert snapped in half Vista DVDs.

Really dot, you otta get back on your meds. Your mind is obviously ****ed up
beyond repair.

Cheers.

> "NoStop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bek wrote:
>>
>>> And I suppose telling you all that I'm a girl is going to make the
>>> stereotyping and names worse. Don't freak out though! I live near
>>> Redmond!
>>> I'll just drive down to Microsoft and strangle someone.
>>>
>>> At any rate, whether I am a seasoned computer geek or a beginner, it
>>> should not have had to have been this hard. I mean, shouldn't the
>>> upgrade advisor have warned me that my video card was a total crap bag?
>>> Yes! Alas,
>>> it did not.
>>>
>> You shouldn't be judging your video card that roughly. Who says your
>> video card is crap? Just because a crappy toy operating system that is so
>> poorly written that it demands the "latest and greatest and priciest"
>> hardware to overcome its bloatware?
>>
>> As you've seen, you've not gotten much sympathy in this newsgroup
>> composed of Fista Fanboys, who can see no wrong with Microslop or its
>> piece of junk new 'operating system'. In true MickeyMouse fashion, it's
>> always - blame the end-user for the problems he/she encounters. You're
>> either not smart enough for this gang or else too lazy to do your
>> homework. When "soccer moms" are mentioned, their retort is that a
>> "soccer mom" wouldn't be interested in upgrading in the first place. They
>> show no end to their elitist and snobby attitudes.
>>
>> May I suggest that this is a good time to get off this ridiculous
>> bandwagon,
>> driven by Microsoft's insatiable appetite for more or your money. Take a
>> look at an intelligent operating system like Ubuntu. You can get this
>> operating system for free. It can be a LiveCD distribution that will
>> allow you to boot your computer from a CD and see how well your hardware
>> will work with it before committing to an install on your hard drive. If
>> you're like the vast majority of computer users it'll give you all you
>> need and will work with your "old and crappy video card". Another big
>> plus is that if you start using Ubuntu, you'll turn to a community of
>> users who treat each other with respect and not blame the end-user for
>> the problems they may encounter.
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>>
>>> "Donald Shelton" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really must protest you calling another person names on this public
>>>> forum.
>>>> Most people using personal computers learn as they use their machines.
>>>> I'd say that Bek went thru a learning experience, but "Stupid" I am
>>>> sure he's not.
>>>>
>>>> Let's try to be courteous to each other.
>>
>> --
>> The "Wow" starts now.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>
>> "No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
>> choice."
>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>

--
The "Wow" starts now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=

"No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
choice."
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html

I think that the responses on this thread are hilarious. I feel sorry for
the guy who complained. He used the Upgrade Adviser and it said that his
system was compatible, so he buys and installs Vista, and he never gets
past the blue screens as Vista constantly crashes on his suitable
machine. The Microsoft fanboys pounce on him and try to blame him for
his less than perfect Vista experience. Meanwhile, he is out of a few
hundred bucks. I think that he can use his recovery disk to reinstall
XP. I hope that he gives it a try to see if it will work. If it was me,
and I had gotten the type of response that he did on this newsgroup, I
would be giving Linux a try. You can at least try it out first with a
live CD and see if it will work with your hardware. You dont need a
faulty Upgrade Adviser. But I believe in choice. His hardware belongs
to him and he can do whatever he feels like doing with it. If his
hardware was working fine with XP, then there is nothing wrong with it.
But there is something very wrong with Vista, the little engine that
couldn't. The fanboys here did nothing to encourage, or help him out.
As for me, I seem to attract the closet psychopaths, who suggest that I
"sacrifice my daughter to linux". They definitely need to take their
meds, as scheduled and refrain from responding on this newsgroup while
they are high. Of course, if they do, they just increase the hilarity of
participating here.


On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:28:29 -0700, NoStop wrote:

> Richard Urban wrote:
>
>> Glad your rant is over. Vista sucks because everything you did is wrong
>> - beginning with installing Vista on a computer that could not handle
>> it.
>>
> Well if you can't trust MickeyMouse's "upgrade advisor", who can you
> trust?
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>>
>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:0C48FB91-1933-4FFE-8FCA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have made.
>>> There
>>> was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and would
>>> be fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram (2
>>> 512's), it was the wrong kind. So I had to exchange it for the right
>>> RAM. Then I installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install but
>>> the upgrade). Nothing
>>> but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and
>>> ready to
>>> go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this
>>> time, wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and
>>> stuff are on
>>> D which I unplugged just in case). Still having issues. Mostly the
>>> screen freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines. Or
>>> blue screen
>>> of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a
>>> day. I
>>> kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah,
>>> called
>>> them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally
>>> went on
>>> here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it
>>> kept freezing up and giving me blue screen errors). Now, evresince
>>> decreasing my
>>> video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at
>>> least one blue screen a day. Maybe I will get a better video card soon
>>> if I have money. I have bills to pay, ya know? But for now I guess
>>> this will do. Then
>>> comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It
>>> looked rad.
>>> But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there
>>> is only
>>> the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my videocard
>>> can't
>>> handle the aero theme. Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So
>>> how about
>>> lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH NO
>>> NOT VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you
>>> can't find .Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with
>>> one, basic, drab,
>>> crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me that
>>> my hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista
>>> experience.
>>> Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of
>>> crap *ever*. I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the
>>> recovery disc that
>>> came with my computer. The computer already had XP installed. Crap.
>>> Well maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP. I bet I'll be
>>> 100% happier. Vista has been nothing but a nightmare and I *HATE* it
>>> with a passion.
>>> Thanks for letting me rant. The end.
>

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I just noticed something in your post. You say that you added a stick of
ram. Please download the iso for memtest and burn it to a cd. Run
memtest and see if all your ram is good. You run memtest by booting from
the memtest cd. You may have a bad stick. I wish that I would have
noticed that sooner. It is amazing that none of the Microsoft fanboys
noticed that. They were too busy defending Vista.




On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:27:52 -0500, Bill wrote:

> I think that the responses on this thread are hilarious. I feel sorry
> for the guy who complained. He used the Upgrade Adviser and it said
> that his system was compatible, so he buys and installs Vista, and he
> never gets past the blue screens as Vista constantly crashes on his
> suitable machine. The Microsoft fanboys pounce on him and try to blame
> him for his less than perfect Vista experience. Meanwhile, he is out of
> a few hundred bucks. I think that he can use his recovery disk to
> reinstall XP. I hope that he gives it a try to see if it will work. If
> it was me, and I had gotten the type of response that he did on this
> newsgroup, I would be giving Linux a try. You can at least try it out
> first with a live CD and see if it will work with your hardware. You
> dont need a faulty Upgrade Adviser. But I believe in choice. His
> hardware belongs to him and he can do whatever he feels like doing with
> it. If his hardware was working fine with XP, then there is nothing
> wrong with it. But there is something very wrong with Vista, the little
> engine that couldn't. The fanboys here did nothing to encourage, or
> help him out. As for me, I seem to attract the closet psychopaths, who
> suggest that I "sacrifice my daughter to linux". They definitely need
> to take their meds, as scheduled and refrain from responding on this
> newsgroup while they are high. Of course, if they do, they just
> increase the hilarity of participating here.
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:28:29 -0700, NoStop wrote:
>
>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>
>>> Glad your rant is over. Vista sucks because everything you did is
>>> wrong - beginning with installing Vista on a computer that could not
>>> handle it.
>>>
>> Well if you can't trust MickeyMouse's "upgrade advisor", who can you
>> trust?
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:0C48FB91-1933-4FFE-8FCA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> "upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have made.
>>>> There
>>>> was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and
>>>> would be fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram
>>>> (2 512's), it was the wrong kind. So I had to exchange it for the
>>>> right RAM. Then I installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install
>>>> but the upgrade). Nothing
>>>> but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and
>>>> ready to
>>>> go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this
>>>> time, wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and
>>>> stuff are on
>>>> D which I unplugged just in case). Still having issues. Mostly the
>>>> screen freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines.
>>>> Or blue screen
>>>> of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a
>>>> day. I
>>>> kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah,
>>>> called
>>>> them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally
>>>> went on
>>>> here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it
>>>> kept freezing up and giving me blue screen errors). Now, evresince
>>>> decreasing my
>>>> video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at
>>>> least one blue screen a day. Maybe I will get a better video card
>>>> soon if I have money. I have bills to pay, ya know? But for now I
>>>> guess this will do. Then
>>>> comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It
>>>> looked rad.
>>>> But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there
>>>> is only
>>>> the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my
>>>> videocard can't
>>>> handle the aero theme. Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So
>>>> how about
>>>> lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH NO
>>>> NOT VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you
>>>> can't find .Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with
>>>> one, basic, drab,
>>>> crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me that
>>>> my hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista
>>>> experience.
>>>> Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of
>>>> crap *ever*. I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the
>>>> recovery disc that
>>>> came with my computer. The computer already had XP installed. Crap.
>>>> Well maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP. I bet I'll
>>>> be 100% happier. Vista has been nothing but a nightmare and I *HATE*
>>>> it with a passion.
>>>> Thanks for letting me rant. The end.
>>
>>
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Beer costs $1.00 or so. Is it compatible with me? Let's find out!

An OS is something you are going to use for everything you do with your PC,
every day. I didn't just rush out and buy the parts for my PC without doing
research, and they don't last as long as my OS. If I did that, I'd own an
Athlon 64 with 512MB of RAM, NVIDIA card, 500 GB hard drive, DVD-RW and a
minitower AT case with no fans and a 250 watt power supply. Problems? Oh
yes. Yes, most of the hardware is not a problem. But, I chose the wrong case
and power supply. It might run, but it won't run right. Is it the fault of
the CPU? Nope. It wouldn't matter if I was running Linux, Windows or MacOS.
It still wouldn't run right. I feel that if you are purchasing something to
use everyday, do some research on it. It's not the fault of the manufacturer
that you didn't read the specs first.

Wal-Mart had issue with returns of Doom 3 because people weren't reading the
system requirements on the top of the box. Seems they may have the same
problem with Vista.

Microsoft has even released the Upgrade Advisor to help customers with
finding out if there PC is going to work. Sure, sometimes it does make
mistakes (and it does need something to tell you if your video card will
support Aero Glass!). In my opinion, Microsoft has grown leaps and bounds in
the past year or so on the front of consumer support. Not only in the OS
arena. I've seen more Microsoft developers in the newsgroups, various
forums, helping out and trying to fix the problems and make a better
product. Same with FSX. They were in the major Flight Sim forums talking
about the product, giving tips, screenshots, and helping out.

My opinion on Microsoft has gone from evil corporation bent on ass raping
the consumer to actually a more positive one. I used to be pro-Linux, but
Vista is a damn fine OS (when it works on your hardware!).

--
Dustin Harper
(E-Mail Removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

--
<.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Microsoft should run ads saying that then, MS is all about having no
> responsibility. MS Customers are large corporates and larger system
> manufacturers. There is a small sideline in retail sales. Noone here
> counts to MS - most are customers of OEMs, the rest corporate clones, or
> retail customers. Only the last group are MS's customers - really minor
> ones.
>
> Do you do research on a bottle of beer. Or do you assume beer is beer, it
> comes in a container, it will be liquid, and you need to open it.
>
> Software is a commodity.
>
> "Dustin Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:FF3B20A0-B5E4-4C7D-A8F8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Not really... You should do a little research before spending money on
>> something. Especially with computers. Things change so fast, that what
>> works now may be out of date and be worthless in 6 months.
>>
>> Similar to buying a new hydrogen car in a hillybilly town. Not going to
>> find a station to fill it up unless you go to the big town.
>>
>> A new operating system will try and be made compatible with as much
>> hardware as possible (more sales$$$), but sometimes it just won't work
>> with the speed and reliability they want...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dustin Harper
>> (E-Mail Removed)
>> http://www.vistarip.com
>>
>> --
>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:70AD393F-2EE4-41EB-87AC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> My whole point is that you shouldn't HAVE to do research to buy and
>>> install
>>> an operating system. What if I was a soccer mom or something? Or someone
>>> who
>>> didn't know ANYTHING about computers? Would I not be allowed to purchase
>>> and
>>> install something that the billbaords, ads, magazines, tv commercials
>>> and
>>> newspaper clippings say is WONDERFUL ? Hm?
>>>
>>> "Will" wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:0C48FB91-1933-4FFE-8FCA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> > "upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have made.
>>>> > There
>>>> > was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and
>>>> > would be
>>>> > fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram (2
>>>> > 512's), it
>>>> > was the wrong kind. So I had to exchange it for the right RAM. Then I
>>>> > installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install but the upgrade).
>>>> > Nothing
>>>> > but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and
>>>> > ready
>>>> > to
>>>> > go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this
>>>> > time,
>>>> > wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and stuff
>>>> > are
>>>> > on
>>>> > D which I unplugged just in case). Still having issues. Mostly the
>>>> > screen
>>>> > freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines. Or blue
>>>> > screen
>>>> > of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a
>>>> > day.
>>>> > I
>>>> > kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah,
>>>> > called
>>>> > them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally
>>>> > went
>>>> > on
>>>> > here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it
>>>> > kept
>>>> > freezing up and giving me blue screen errors). Now, evresince
>>>> > decreasing
>>>> > my
>>>> > video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at
>>>> > least
>>>> > one blue screen a day. Maybe I will get a better video card soon if I
>>>> > have
>>>> > money. I have bills to pay, ya know? But for now I guess this will
>>>> > do.
>>>> > Then
>>>> > comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It
>>>> > looked
>>>> > rad.
>>>> > But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there
>>>> > is
>>>> > only
>>>> > the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my
>>>> > videocard
>>>> > can't
>>>> > handle the aero theme. Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So
>>>> > how
>>>> > about
>>>> > lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH NO
>>>> > NOT
>>>> > VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you can't
>>>> > find
>>>> > .Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with one, basic,
>>>> > drab,
>>>> > crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me that
>>>> > my
>>>> > hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista
>>>> > experience.
>>>> > Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of
>>>> > crap
>>>> > *ever*. I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the recovery
>>>> > disc
>>>> > that
>>>> > came with my computer. The computer already had XP installed. Crap.
>>>> > Well
>>>> > maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP. I bet I'll be
>>>> > 100%
>>>> > happier. Vista has been nothing but a nightmare and I *HATE* it with
>>>> > a
>>>> > passion.
>>>> > Thanks for letting me rant. The end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> another person that wasted his money without doing any research
>>>>
>>>> Hey next time, just send me the money
>>>>
>>
>

We of course would be glad to help, please post your hardware and issues
that you are having. The initial post was just griping about Vista, not to
helpful for us to be able to help you.
G


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I protest that remark, no one is being sexist here, I resent that statement
>by you and bek. Come on everyone grow up. If you want to upgrade to a new
>OS you must do your homework, many of us have posted many time that you
>must make sure that drivers exist for your hardware you wish to install
>Vista on. And more than once recommendations have been made as to the grade
>of hardware you need to install Vista. With all due respect I do not have a
>lot of sympathy for those who "blindly" upgrade to a new OS. This is no
>different than the previous transitions from one OS to another.
> G
>
>
> <.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The treat each other with respect but target women with computer
>> problems. And when they win the woman's trust ... They don't call
>> themselves a community for nothing. And it's good for male bonding (or
>> is it pimple bonding) a large group of greasy haired pimples (after all
>> they only get to do it every second year) with a woman. They normally let
>> her live and just blackmail her with a video. But sometimes if she admits
>> to using Windows they go beserk, screaming "take this bill gate's
>> concubine" as they insert snapped in half Vista DVDs.
>> "NoStop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Bek wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I suppose telling you all that I'm a girl is going to make the
>>>> stereotyping and names worse. Don't freak out though! I live near
>>>> Redmond!
>>>> I'll just drive down to Microsoft and strangle someone.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, whether I am a seasoned computer geek or a beginner, it
>>>> should not have had to have been this hard. I mean, shouldn't the
>>>> upgrade
>>>> advisor have warned me that my video card was a total crap bag? Yes!
>>>> Alas,
>>>> it did not.
>>>>
>>> You shouldn't be judging your video card that roughly. Who says your
>>> video
>>> card is crap? Just because a crappy toy operating system that is so
>>> poorly
>>> written that it demands the "latest and greatest and priciest" hardware
>>> to
>>> overcome its bloatware?
>>>
>>> As you've seen, you've not gotten much sympathy in this newsgroup
>>> composed
>>> of Fista Fanboys, who can see no wrong with Microslop or its piece of
>>> junk
>>> new 'operating system'. In true MickeyMouse fashion, it's always - blame
>>> the end-user for the problems he/she encounters. You're either not smart
>>> enough for this gang or else too lazy to do your homework. When "soccer
>>> moms" are mentioned, their retort is that a "soccer mom" wouldn't be
>>> interested in upgrading in the first place. They show no end to their
>>> elitist and snobby attitudes.
>>>
>>> May I suggest that this is a good time to get off this ridiculous
>>> bandwagon,
>>> driven by Microsoft's insatiable appetite for more or your money. Take a
>>> look at an intelligent operating system like Ubuntu. You can get this
>>> operating system for free. It can be a LiveCD distribution that will
>>> allow
>>> you to boot your computer from a CD and see how well your hardware will
>>> work with it before committing to an install on your hard drive. If
>>> you're
>>> like the vast majority of computer users it'll give you all you need and
>>> will work with your "old and crappy video card". Another big plus is
>>> that
>>> if you start using Ubuntu, you'll turn to a community of users who treat
>>> each other with respect and not blame the end-user for the problems they
>>> may encounter.
>>>
>>> http://www.ubuntu.com
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Donald Shelton" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really must protest you calling another person names on this public
>>>>> forum.
>>>>> Most people using personal computers learn as they use their machines.
>>>>> I'd say that Bek went thru a learning experience, but "Stupid" I am
>>>>> sure
>>>>> he's not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's try to be courteous to each other.
>>>
>>> --
>>> The "Wow" starts now.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>>
>>> "No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
>>> choice."
>>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>>
>>
>

Hoy, we've been fighting for years. Go find your own enemy and leave mine
alone. He's mine to insult.

No Stop. Don't leave me for gsx. I can think up far more inventive insults
than him. Look at his first attempt.

You know I know what you want without you saying - and I know you don't want
"I protest that remark".

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I protest that remark, no one is being sexist here, I resent that statement
>by you and bek. Come on everyone grow up. If you want to upgrade to a new
>OS you must do your homework, many of us have posted many time that you
>must make sure that drivers exist for your hardware you wish to install
>Vista on. And more than once recommendations have been made as to the grade
>of hardware you need to install Vista. With all due respect I do not have a
>lot of sympathy for those who "blindly" upgrade to a new OS. This is no
>different than the previous transitions from one OS to another.
> G
>
>
> <.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The treat each other with respect but target women with computer
>> problems. And when they win the woman's trust ... They don't call
>> themselves a community for nothing. And it's good for male bonding (or
>> is it pimple bonding) a large group of greasy haired pimples (after all
>> they only get to do it every second year) with a woman. They normally let
>> her live and just blackmail her with a video. But sometimes if she admits
>> to using Windows they go beserk, screaming "take this bill gate's
>> concubine" as they insert snapped in half Vista DVDs.
>> "NoStop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Bek wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I suppose telling you all that I'm a girl is going to make the
>>>> stereotyping and names worse. Don't freak out though! I live near
>>>> Redmond!
>>>> I'll just drive down to Microsoft and strangle someone.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, whether I am a seasoned computer geek or a beginner, it
>>>> should not have had to have been this hard. I mean, shouldn't the
>>>> upgrade
>>>> advisor have warned me that my video card was a total crap bag? Yes!
>>>> Alas,
>>>> it did not.
>>>>
>>> You shouldn't be judging your video card that roughly. Who says your
>>> video
>>> card is crap? Just because a crappy toy operating system that is so
>>> poorly
>>> written that it demands the "latest and greatest and priciest" hardware
>>> to
>>> overcome its bloatware?
>>>
>>> As you've seen, you've not gotten much sympathy in this newsgroup
>>> composed
>>> of Fista Fanboys, who can see no wrong with Microslop or its piece of
>>> junk
>>> new 'operating system'. In true MickeyMouse fashion, it's always - blame
>>> the end-user for the problems he/she encounters. You're either not smart
>>> enough for this gang or else too lazy to do your homework. When "soccer
>>> moms" are mentioned, their retort is that a "soccer mom" wouldn't be
>>> interested in upgrading in the first place. They show no end to their
>>> elitist and snobby attitudes.
>>>
>>> May I suggest that this is a good time to get off this ridiculous
>>> bandwagon,
>>> driven by Microsoft's insatiable appetite for more or your money. Take a
>>> look at an intelligent operating system like Ubuntu. You can get this
>>> operating system for free. It can be a LiveCD distribution that will
>>> allow
>>> you to boot your computer from a CD and see how well your hardware will
>>> work with it before committing to an install on your hard drive. If
>>> you're
>>> like the vast majority of computer users it'll give you all you need and
>>> will work with your "old and crappy video card". Another big plus is
>>> that
>>> if you start using Ubuntu, you'll turn to a community of users who treat
>>> each other with respect and not blame the end-user for the problems they
>>> may encounter.
>>>
>>> http://www.ubuntu.com
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Donald Shelton" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really must protest you calling another person names on this public
>>>>> forum.
>>>>> Most people using personal computers learn as they use their machines.
>>>>> I'd say that Bek went thru a learning experience, but "Stupid" I am
>>>>> sure
>>>>> he's not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's try to be courteous to each other.
>>>
>>> --
>>> The "Wow" starts now.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>>
>>> "No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
>>> choice."
>>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>>
>>
>

Amen.
By the way, FSX is very nice with Vista and a DX10 card.
G

"Dustin Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:98990C7C-E8BB-4CFB-AA41-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Beer costs $1.00 or so. Is it compatible with me? Let's find out!
>
> An OS is something you are going to use for everything you do with your
> PC, every day. I didn't just rush out and buy the parts for my PC without
> doing research, and they don't last as long as my OS. If I did that, I'd
> own an Athlon 64 with 512MB of RAM, NVIDIA card, 500 GB hard drive, DVD-RW
> and a minitower AT case with no fans and a 250 watt power supply.
> Problems? Oh yes. Yes, most of the hardware is not a problem. But, I chose
> the wrong case and power supply. It might run, but it won't run right. Is
> it the fault of the CPU? Nope. It wouldn't matter if I was running Linux,
> Windows or MacOS. It still wouldn't run right. I feel that if you are
> purchasing something to use everyday, do some research on it. It's not the
> fault of the manufacturer that you didn't read the specs first.
>
> Wal-Mart had issue with returns of Doom 3 because people weren't reading
> the system requirements on the top of the box. Seems they may have the
> same problem with Vista.
>
> Microsoft has even released the Upgrade Advisor to help customers with
> finding out if there PC is going to work. Sure, sometimes it does make
> mistakes (and it does need something to tell you if your video card will
> support Aero Glass!). In my opinion, Microsoft has grown leaps and bounds
> in the past year or so on the front of consumer support. Not only in the
> OS arena. I've seen more Microsoft developers in the newsgroups, various
> forums, helping out and trying to fix the problems and make a better
> product. Same with FSX. They were in the major Flight Sim forums talking
> about the product, giving tips, screenshots, and helping out.
>
> My opinion on Microsoft has gone from evil corporation bent on ass raping
> the consumer to actually a more positive one. I used to be pro-Linux, but
> Vista is a damn fine OS (when it works on your hardware!).
>
> --
> Dustin Harper
> (E-Mail Removed)
> http://www.vistarip.com
>
> --
> <.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Microsoft should run ads saying that then, MS is all about having no
>> responsibility. MS Customers are large corporates and larger system
>> manufacturers. There is a small sideline in retail sales. Noone here
>> counts to MS - most are customers of OEMs, the rest corporate clones, or
>> retail customers. Only the last group are MS's customers - really minor
>> ones.
>>
>> Do you do research on a bottle of beer. Or do you assume beer is beer, it
>> comes in a container, it will be liquid, and you need to open it.
>>
>> Software is a commodity.
>>
>> "Dustin Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:FF3B20A0-B5E4-4C7D-A8F8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Not really... You should do a little research before spending money on
>>> something. Especially with computers. Things change so fast, that what
>>> works now may be out of date and be worthless in 6 months.
>>>
>>> Similar to buying a new hydrogen car in a hillybilly town. Not going to
>>> find a station to fill it up unless you go to the big town.
>>>
>>> A new operating system will try and be made compatible with as much
>>> hardware as possible (more sales$$$), but sometimes it just won't work
>>> with the speed and reliability they want...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dustin Harper
>>> (E-Mail Removed)
>>> http://www.vistarip.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:70AD393F-2EE4-41EB-87AC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> My whole point is that you shouldn't HAVE to do research to buy and
>>>> install
>>>> an operating system. What if I was a soccer mom or something? Or
>>>> someone who
>>>> didn't know ANYTHING about computers? Would I not be allowed to
>>>> purchase and
>>>> install something that the billbaords, ads, magazines, tv commercials
>>>> and
>>>> newspaper clippings say is WONDERFUL ? Hm?
>>>>
>>>> "Will" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0C48FB91-1933-4FFE-8FCA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> > "upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have
>>>>> > made.
>>>>> > There
>>>>> > was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and
>>>>> > would be
>>>>> > fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram (2
>>>>> > 512's), it
>>>>> > was the wrong kind. So I had to exchange it for the right RAM. Then
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install but the
>>>>> > upgrade).
>>>>> > Nothing
>>>>> > but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and
>>>>> > ready
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this
>>>>> > time,
>>>>> > wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and
>>>>> > stuff are
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > D which I unplugged just in case). Still having issues. Mostly the
>>>>> > screen
>>>>> > freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines. Or blue
>>>>> > screen
>>>>> > of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a
>>>>> > day.
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah,
>>>>> > called
>>>>> > them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally
>>>>> > went
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it
>>>>> > kept
>>>>> > freezing up and giving me blue screen errors). Now, evresince
>>>>> > decreasing
>>>>> > my
>>>>> > video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at
>>>>> > least
>>>>> > one blue screen a day. Maybe I will get a better video card soon if
>>>>> > I have
>>>>> > money. I have bills to pay, ya know? But for now I guess this will
>>>>> > do.
>>>>> > Then
>>>>> > comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It
>>>>> > looked
>>>>> > rad.
>>>>> > But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > only
>>>>> > the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my
>>>>> > videocard
>>>>> > can't
>>>>> > handle the aero theme. Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So
>>>>> > how
>>>>> > about
>>>>> > lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH
>>>>> > NO NOT
>>>>> > VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you
>>>>> > can't find
>>>>> > .Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with one,
>>>>> > basic,
>>>>> > drab,
>>>>> > crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me
>>>>> > that my
>>>>> > hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista
>>>>> > experience.
>>>>> > Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of
>>>>> > crap
>>>>> > *ever*. I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the recovery
>>>>> > disc
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > came with my computer. The computer already had XP installed. Crap.
>>>>> > Well
>>>>> > maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP. I bet I'll be
>>>>> > 100%
>>>>> > happier. Vista has been nothing but a nightmare and I *HATE* it with
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > passion.
>>>>> > Thanks for letting me rant. The end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> another person that wasted his money without doing any research
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey next time, just send me the money
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

If you need me as an outlet for you anger, be my guest. But maybe you should
think that you are not being constructive. Pulling the discrimination act
just shows how unhappy of a person you are, especially when no one was being
sexist. Go ahead we can handle the abuse, and we will help you with your
problems as well. I would recommend a psychologist though and maybe some
meds. Maybe you had a rough childhood. Anyway if you want to tell us about
your problems, well this is the wrong place. I could recommend a good
psychologist if you want. If you need some help with Vista we of couse would
be glad to help you. And your ranting and raving, well that is just great
entertainment, keep it up, we like being amused.
G


<.> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hoy, we've been fighting for years. Go find your own enemy and leave mine
> alone. He's mine to insult.
>
> No Stop. Don't leave me for gsx. I can think up far more inventive insults
> than him. Look at his first attempt.
>
> You know I know what you want without you saying - and I know you don't
> want "I protest that remark".
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I protest that remark, no one is being sexist here, I resent that
>>statement by you and bek. Come on everyone grow up. If you want to upgrade
>>to a new OS you must do your homework, many of us have posted many time
>>that you must make sure that drivers exist for your hardware you wish to
>>install Vista on. And more than once recommendations have been made as to
>>the grade of hardware you need to install Vista. With all due respect I do
>>not have a lot of sympathy for those who "blindly" upgrade to a new OS.
>>This is no different than the previous transitions from one OS to another.
>> G
>>
>>
>> <.> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The treat each other with respect but target women with computer
>>> problems. And when they win the woman's trust ... They don't call
>>> themselves a community for nothing. And it's good for male bonding (or
>>> is it pimple bonding) a large group of greasy haired pimples (after all
>>> they only get to do it every second year) with a woman. They normally
>>> let her live and just blackmail her with a video. But sometimes if she
>>> admits to using Windows they go beserk, screaming "take this bill gate's
>>> concubine" as they insert snapped in half Vista DVDs.
>>> "NoStop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Bek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And I suppose telling you all that I'm a girl is going to make the
>>>>> stereotyping and names worse. Don't freak out though! I live near
>>>>> Redmond!
>>>>> I'll just drive down to Microsoft and strangle someone.
>>>>>
>>>>> At any rate, whether I am a seasoned computer geek or a beginner, it
>>>>> should not have had to have been this hard. I mean, shouldn't the
>>>>> upgrade
>>>>> advisor have warned me that my video card was a total crap bag? Yes!
>>>>> Alas,
>>>>> it did not.
>>>>>
>>>> You shouldn't be judging your video card that roughly. Who says your
>>>> video
>>>> card is crap? Just because a crappy toy operating system that is so
>>>> poorly
>>>> written that it demands the "latest and greatest and priciest" hardware
>>>> to
>>>> overcome its bloatware?
>>>>
>>>> As you've seen, you've not gotten much sympathy in this newsgroup
>>>> composed
>>>> of Fista Fanboys, who can see no wrong with Microslop or its piece of
>>>> junk
>>>> new 'operating system'. In true MickeyMouse fashion, it's always -
>>>> blame
>>>> the end-user for the problems he/she encounters. You're either not
>>>> smart
>>>> enough for this gang or else too lazy to do your homework. When "soccer
>>>> moms" are mentioned, their retort is that a "soccer mom" wouldn't be
>>>> interested in upgrading in the first place. They show no end to their
>>>> elitist and snobby attitudes.
>>>>
>>>> May I suggest that this is a good time to get off this ridiculous
>>>> bandwagon,
>>>> driven by Microsoft's insatiable appetite for more or your money. Take
>>>> a
>>>> look at an intelligent operating system like Ubuntu. You can get this
>>>> operating system for free. It can be a LiveCD distribution that will
>>>> allow
>>>> you to boot your computer from a CD and see how well your hardware will
>>>> work with it before committing to an install on your hard drive. If
>>>> you're
>>>> like the vast majority of computer users it'll give you all you need
>>>> and
>>>> will work with your "old and crappy video card". Another big plus is
>>>> that
>>>> if you start using Ubuntu, you'll turn to a community of users who
>>>> treat
>>>> each other with respect and not blame the end-user for the problems
>>>> they
>>>> may encounter.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Donald Shelton" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really must protest you calling another person names on this public
>>>>>> forum.
>>>>>> Most people using personal computers learn as they use their
>>>>>> machines.
>>>>>> I'd say that Bek went thru a learning experience, but "Stupid" I am
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> he's not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's try to be courteous to each other.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The "Wow" starts now.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>>>
>>>> "No sane person wants Vista, so Microsoft is making sure they have no
>>>> choice."
>>>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

A psycho-rational response. My mum did this. It doesn't work with me.

If there are no drivers thenthere are no drivers so he should have bought
hardware that was supported. He should compain to the hardware mfg. Most
drivers MS writes 90% of them. The mfg just needs to do the last 10%
specific to their brand. But there is no money in drivers.

And installing a unix clone would mean one has to surrender rights to
pimplely faced unix clone nuts. Open Source license restricts what one can
do unlike an MS license. Only those who wish to adopt a evil political
agenda is it suited for.

I've written many public domain things (incl meeting manuals). Unix clones
are anti public domain preferring to restrict what people can do with a unix
clone.

"Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
>I think that the responses on this thread are hilarious. I feel sorry for
> the guy who complained. He used the Upgrade Adviser and it said that his
> system was compatible, so he buys and installs Vista, and he never gets
> past the blue screens as Vista constantly crashes on his suitable
> machine. The Microsoft fanboys pounce on him and try to blame him for
> his less than perfect Vista experience. Meanwhile, he is out of a few
> hundred bucks. I think that he can use his recovery disk to reinstall
> XP. I hope that he gives it a try to see if it will work. If it was me,
> and I had gotten the type of response that he did on this newsgroup, I
> would be giving Linux a try. You can at least try it out first with a
> live CD and see if it will work with your hardware. You dont need a
> faulty Upgrade Adviser. But I believe in choice. His hardware belongs
> to him and he can do whatever he feels like doing with it. If his
> hardware was working fine with XP, then there is nothing wrong with it.
> But there is something very wrong with Vista, the little engine that
> couldn't. The fanboys here did nothing to encourage, or help him out.
> As for me, I seem to attract the closet psychopaths, who suggest that I
> "sacrifice my daughter to linux". They definitely need to take their
> meds, as scheduled and refrain from responding on this newsgroup while
> they are high. Of course, if they do, they just increase the hilarity of
> participating here.
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:28:29 -0700, NoStop wrote:
>
>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>
>>> Glad your rant is over. Vista sucks because everything you did is wrong
>>> - beginning with installing Vista on a computer that could not handle
>>> it.
>>>
>> Well if you can't trust MickeyMouse's "upgrade advisor", who can you
>> trust?
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "Bek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:0C48FB91-1933-4FFE-8FCA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> "upgrading" to Vista from XP was the worst mistake I could have made.
>>>> There
>>>> was nothing wrong with XP.. I just thought Vista looked cool and would
>>>> be fun! Wrong!! Not only did I have to buy another stick of ram (2
>>>> 512's), it was the wrong kind. So I had to exchange it for the right
>>>> RAM. Then I installed Vista on top of XP (not the clean install but
>>>> the upgrade). Nothing
>>>> but problems. The upgrade advisor said everything was hunky dory and
>>>> ready to
>>>> go with Vista, yay! But, no. So I re-installed Vista, CLEAN, this
>>>> time, wiping everything out on the C drive (all my music and pics and
>>>> stuff are on
>>>> D which I unplugged just in case). Still having issues. Mostly the
>>>> screen freezing up, usually in patterns of purple and yellow lines. Or
>>>> blue screen
>>>> of death every 15-20 minutes. I'd have to reboot at least 40 times a
>>>> day. I
>>>> kid you not. Microsoft technical support was not very helpful (yeah,
>>>> called
>>>> them 6 times, they said they didn't know what to do for me). Finally
>>>> went on
>>>> here and found some useful info (my video card sucks so thats why it
>>>> kept freezing up and giving me blue screen errors). Now, evresince
>>>> decreasing my
>>>> video card hardware acceleration, its been better but I still get at
>>>> least one blue screen a day. Maybe I will get a better video card soon
>>>> if I have money. I have bills to pay, ya know? But for now I guess
>>>> this will do. Then
>>>> comes the problem with aero. Thats why I frickin BOUGHT Vista. It
>>>> looked rad.
>>>> But then I find out, after MUCh searching, that the reason why there
>>>> is only
>>>> the 'basic' vista theme, is because my hardware sucks and my videocard
>>>> can't
>>>> handle the aero theme. Well that is just fine and frickin dandy. So
>>>> how about
>>>> lets install some third party .msstyles to spice this party up? OH NO
>>>> NOT VISTA!! Now they are .theme files, not .msstyles files, and you
>>>> can't find .Theme files anywhere on the internet. So I am stuck with
>>>> one, basic, drab,
>>>> crappy Vista theme all because the upgrade advisor never told me that
>>>> my hardware would suck and prevent me from having an enjoyable vista
>>>> experience.
>>>> Vista, I hereby pronounce you as the worst operating system peice of
>>>> crap *ever*. I wish I could go back to XP but all I have is the
>>>> recovery disc that
>>>> came with my computer. The computer already had XP installed. Crap.
>>>> Well maybe I'll spend the $100 and get a new copy of XP. I bet I'll be
>>>> 100% happier. Vista has been nothing but a nightmare and I *HATE* it
>>>> with a passion.
>>>> Thanks for letting me rant. The end.
>>
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