On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:32:04 -0400, "Chad Harris"
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Jeeze Chad do you get paid by the word or something?
>Say what? What dream world are you in Jonah?
>
>Vista is not ready to use as production OS? Ummm news flash. It's in the
>middle of Beta.
>You have seen "restores" meaning partitions that work. Maybe so. Out of
>1000 looks, I've seen a number under 10. Vista is not going to impact any
>restore partition on the hard drive period and that's a fact in a multiboot
>situation which is what you're referrring to. You pulled that out of thin
>air with no substantive evidence.
No I did not, I have been installing Vista as an upgrade deliberately
on a test machine with various hardware configs and trying to restore
back to XP using only the "restore disk / partition" which you hate so
much ( rightly). I have got a couple to restore back to XP but every
other attempt has failed requiring a reload of the XP image I started
with, a clean install with nothing else loaded except MB drivers.
>
>No one has the right to say who should be installing Vista and who shoudn't.
>It's in the public domain and it's free and it's a software aphrodisiac and
>people will grab and use aphrodisiacs. They sure grab fake ones, all over
>the planet so why would anyone be shocked they grab real ones? In my country
>mainstream newspapers advertise fake ones and a lot else that's fake.
I am commenting on the wisdom of doing so without reading and
understanding the warnings properly, not the right to do so.
>
>If Vista is "dog slow" or XP is "dog slow" on your box then you need to take
>the steps that will speed that puppy up. It's not Vista that's dog slow,
>it's you. I could find a slwew of processes you have running on your XP or
>Vista box or services that need to be ended or turned off. Dual boots work
>great with the exceptions of UAC architecture that might prevent you from
>opening Documents from Vista desktop that are on XP, and I don't know why
>you'd have to tuch an F11 key when you can easily use your XP desktop's
>files and folders from a Vista desktop using C:\Documents and
>Settings\Jonah's profile\desktop.
Sorry I meant the actual upgrade process takes forever not that the PC
is slow, its fine when installed. Yes I know how to run a PC I am
deliberately inducing worse case scenarios, the F11 restore thing is a
feature provided by some OEM pre-install builders as you pointed out,
where available I am just attempting it to see if it actually works. I
have a ton of hardware to play with so I have the luxury of being able
to take all sorts of risks.
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>
>We are dealing with lots of people here who have no clue how to burn
>> an ISO, LOL Jonah most of us have been using these type groups and forums
>> for a long time and we are very aware what we deal with. They're here to
>> ask if people can't burn the ISO and plenty have. Several instructions
>> have been posted on this group.
>
Yeah so they learn to burn an ISO (good thing) bang it into an XP
machine and upgrade or overwrite their XP installations then discover
Vista does not work with half their applications and hardware and then
want to get back to XP. Only then does the the trouble start.
>Having participated in a ton of saves of the XP OS on these groups, and
>having been one of the few people to post any substantive information about
>Win RE--ever heard of it Jonah--I'd hardly characterize myself as wanting
>anyone to lose anything.
"I don't want the OP to lose his XP installation out of a desire to
play with Vista"
Note the "I", I did not say that you wanted anyone to lose anything.
>
>Maybe you ought to post these instructions to the OP:
>
>1) Backup XP completely. Win One Care offers to do it for you to media or a
>hard drive. There are many imaging backups like Ghost or Acronis True
>Image.
>2) Put Vista on another volume or partition than XP is on.
Thats exactly what I have been saying all along but I have also been
advising people to put it on a spare Hard Drive and leave their XP
installations totally untouched.
>
> I meant leave it alone unless you know exactly what you are doing or
>failing that remove your XP HDD so there is no possibility of losing a
>good installation for a half finished beta.
>
>Jonah this is planet earth and you aren't going to get a population of
>people using the aphrodisiac new OS who know exactly wahht they are doing
>any more than you'll get all XP users on the planet to know exactly what
>they're doing. That's why these groups are here.
LOL at least give them fair warning eh?
BTW do you reckon you can reply in the thread instead of elsewhere?
>
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Jonah
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